Hello There, Guest! (LoginRegister)

Post Reply 
John O'Korn
Author Message
dezagcoog Offline
1st String
*

Posts: 1,219
Joined: Feb 2013
Reputation: 20
I Root For: Coogs!
Location:
Post: #61
RE: John O'Korn
(12-16-2014 01:37 PM)uhmump95 Wrote:  
(12-16-2014 09:17 AM)dezagcoog Wrote:  
(12-16-2014 08:52 AM)uhmump95 Wrote:  Considering that Ward performed better without "real" coaching, you would have to think "real" coaching would benefit him more than O'Korn.

Because of their skill set. Running is not something that you get taught really, it's much more intuitive. While passing and reading defenses and the field takes practice and a lot more knowledge. It makes sense Ward can be successful without much help.
So are you saying O'Korn is smarter then Ward? If Ward was just scrambling at the end of the season like he was when he first starting playing QB, I may agree with you. But against Cincinnati, he showed a better ability to read defenses then O'Korn showed this year or last.

You can twist my words around as you like, but I never mentioned the relative intelligence of each kid. I said their "skill set" requires different things. Ward is a runner, O'Korn is a passer. Running doesn't require the amount of knowledge and intelligence being a passer requires. I don't know either kid and would not fathom to pretend to know their relative smarts.
12-16-2014 01:58 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
uhmump95 Offline
Race Pimp
*

Posts: 5,337
Joined: Mar 2004
Reputation: 50
I Root For: all my hoes!
Location:

Crappies
Post: #62
RE: John O'Korn
I am not twisting your words. I am interpreting them just as you posted them. From Ward's stats this year, he certainly did a better job passing then the passing QB. Perhaps you evaluation of his "skill set" is just off.
12-16-2014 04:10 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
dezagcoog Offline
1st String
*

Posts: 1,219
Joined: Feb 2013
Reputation: 20
I Root For: Coogs!
Location:
Post: #63
RE: John O'Korn
(12-16-2014 04:10 PM)uhmump95 Wrote:  I am not twisting your words. I am interpreting them just as you posted them. From Ward's stats this year, he certainly did a better job passing then the passing QB. Perhaps you evaluation of his "skill set" is just off.

LOL As i never talked about their relative intelligences, and you inferred that I did, you are twisting my words. That is pretty much the definition of doing so.

But let's play along. Can you please post the stats that you claim support your assertion that I called O'Korn more intelligent? And explain how they prove that I'm incorrect?

Just FYI Greg Ward had a Run to Pass ratio of about 1:2 vs O'Korn's of about 1:6. But I guess you're right Ward's skill set is definitely focused on passing and O'korn's is running. Totally the opposite of what I said.
(This post was last modified: 12-16-2014 04:40 PM by dezagcoog.)
12-16-2014 04:13 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
CalallenStang Offline
Hall of Famer
*

Posts: 18,056
Joined: Nov 2006
Reputation: 446
I Root For: SMU Mustangs
Location: The Midwest
Post: #64
RE: John O'Korn
Hey dezag - did Herman not want Ben Hicks?

http://collegesportsblog.dallasnews.com/...icks.html/
12-19-2014 07:03 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
UH1927 Offline
Bench Warmer
*

Posts: 117
Joined: Aug 2014
Reputation: 5
I Root For: HOUSTON
Location:
Post: #65
RE: John O'Korn
(12-19-2014 07:03 PM)CalallenStang Wrote:  Hey dezag - did Herman not want Ben Hicks?

http://collegesportsblog.dallasnews.com/...icks.html/

Herman has a strong reputation of developing QBs- Too bad for Hicks, Good News for O'Korn.



(This post was last modified: 12-19-2014 08:01 PM by UH1927.)
12-19-2014 08:00 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
BearcatMan Offline
Kicking Connoisseur/Occasional Man Crush
*

Posts: 24,161
Joined: Jan 2009
Reputation: 585
I Root For: Cincinnati
Location:
Post: #66
RE: John O'Korn
(12-16-2014 12:33 PM)CalallenStang Wrote:  I don't go by Elite 11 rankings much. In Jameis Winston's year, he was tied for first in Elite 11. The QB he was tied with? Neal Burcham. Elite 11 is wildly inconsistent.

That's what you get when the stalwart of quarterback evaluation, Trent Dilfer, makes the decision on rankings. 03-lmfao
12-19-2014 08:13 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
CalallenStang Offline
Hall of Famer
*

Posts: 18,056
Joined: Nov 2006
Reputation: 446
I Root For: SMU Mustangs
Location: The Midwest
Post: #67
RE: John O'Korn
(12-19-2014 08:00 PM)UH1927 Wrote:  
(12-19-2014 07:03 PM)CalallenStang Wrote:  Hey dezag - did Herman not want Ben Hicks?

http://collegesportsblog.dallasnews.com/...icks.html/

Herman has a strong reputation of developing QBs- Too bad for Hicks, Good News for O'Korn.




As does Morris, but that is beside the point. Inquiring about whether Hicks decided to decommit or if he was asked to go elsewhere.
12-19-2014 09:37 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
BigEastHomer Offline
Banned

Posts: 11,730
Joined: Oct 2011
I Root For:
Location:
Post: #68
RE: John O'Korn
Glad SMU got him instead of Texas Tech.

Obviously, Levine has a different offensive approach than Herman.

Other than that, I have no idea if he would have fit in our system.

It sounds like Morris wanted him more (or at least that's how he felt)
12-19-2014 10:31 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Pony94 Offline
Moderator
*

Posts: 25,650
Joined: Apr 2004
Reputation: 1177
I Root For: SMU
Location: Bee Cave, TX
Post: #69
John O'Korn
Tech fans in meltdown
12-19-2014 10:40 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
dezagcoog Offline
1st String
*

Posts: 1,219
Joined: Feb 2013
Reputation: 20
I Root For: Coogs!
Location:
Post: #70
RE: John O'Korn
(12-19-2014 09:37 PM)CalallenStang Wrote:  
(12-19-2014 08:00 PM)UH1927 Wrote:  
(12-19-2014 07:03 PM)CalallenStang Wrote:  Hey dezag - did Herman not want Ben Hicks?

http://collegesportsblog.dallasnews.com/...icks.html/

Herman has a strong reputation of developing QBs- Too bad for Hicks, Good News for O'Korn.




As does Morris, but that is beside the point. Inquiring about whether Hicks decided to decommit or if he was asked to go elsewhere.

I'm pretty sure it was his decision. Haven't heard anything official, but the chatter is mostly that once Levine was gone, he started listening to offers.
12-20-2014 01:55 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Bearcats#1 Offline
Ad nauseam King
*

Posts: 45,310
Joined: Jun 2005
Reputation: 1224
I Root For: Pony94
Location: In your head.
Post: #71
RE: John O'Korn
(12-19-2014 10:40 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  Tech fans in meltdown

Which is always true quality entertainment....
12-20-2014 08:37 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Post Reply 




User(s) browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)


Copyright © 2002-2024 Collegiate Sports Nation Bulletin Board System (CSNbbs), All Rights Reserved.
CSNbbs is an independent fan site and is in no way affiliated to the NCAA or any of the schools and conferences it represents.
This site monetizes links. FTC Disclosure.
We allow third-party companies to serve ads and/or collect certain anonymous information when you visit our web site. These companies may use non-personally identifiable information (e.g., click stream information, browser type, time and date, subject of advertisements clicked or scrolled over) during your visits to this and other Web sites in order to provide advertisements about goods and services likely to be of greater interest to you. These companies typically use a cookie or third party web beacon to collect this information. To learn more about this behavioral advertising practice or to opt-out of this type of advertising, you can visit http://www.networkadvertising.org.
Powered By MyBB, © 2002-2024 MyBB Group.