(09-23-2014 01:07 AM)Saint Greg Wrote:  

(09-22-2014 08:40 PM)eager eagle Wrote:  

(09-22-2014 07:53 PM)T_Won1 Wrote:  The ears were 3/4 full EE. I don't think we had 26,000 though. I was thinking 23 to 24K before they announced 26,000.

26,004 means there could be no more than 750 empties in your 26,750 venue. Click to enlarge the photo and look at the upper left hand section in the photo, the East ear. It seats 1850 and is at least half or 925 empties right there. Look at the farthest four sections to right or South end, upper two and bottom two. Every empty there would add on up and then show us the West side if you can. That will better explain my estimate because that is where the other "ear" is located and has many less than the one on the East plus a number of other sections with a lot of blanks.

27,700 and change is the current capacity. It also matters when that pic was taken. I entered the east side after it was 7-0. I didn't get to a seat until after our 2nd possession. The walkway from the south side to the north side where there were seats Took more than our entire possession because it was clogged with people. There were also hundreds of students still outside at that point they weren't letting in until all the ticketed people got in.

Original stadium seated 23,000. They added 7500 (the "ears") several yrs ago bringing it up to 30,500. A few months ago they removed the "ears" from south end, both sides, (3750 seats) thus 30,500 minus 3750 puts capacity, if packed shoulder to shoulder, at 26,750. Now, someone post the West side photo, thats where most of the empties were. That would settle this discussion as everyone could see for themselves. Makes no difference how many parking lots were full, how many were standing around, etc.

All of our attendance numbers suck.

(09-22-2014 09:20 AM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  Glass houses, folks. Not a team in this conference really has the consistent attendance to smack talk another.

You know what they say: people in glass houses sink ships

(09-23-2014 08:32 AM)eager eagle Wrote:  

(09-23-2014 01:07 AM)Saint Greg Wrote:  

(09-22-2014 08:40 PM)eager eagle Wrote:  

(09-22-2014 07:53 PM)T_Won1 Wrote:  The ears were 3/4 full EE. I don't think we had 26,000 though. I was thinking 23 to 24K before they announced 26,000.

26,004 means there could be no more than 750 empties in your 26,750 venue. Click to enlarge the photo and look at the upper left hand section in the photo, the East ear. It seats 1850 and is at least half or 925 empties right there. Look at the farthest four sections to right or South end, upper two and bottom two. Every empty there would add on up and then show us the West side if you can. That will better explain my estimate because that is where the other "ear" is located and has many less than the one on the East plus a number of other sections with a lot of blanks.

27,700 and change is the current capacity. It also matters when that pic was taken. I entered the east side after it was 7-0. I didn't get to a seat until after our 2nd possession. The walkway from the south side to the north side where there were seats Took more than our entire possession because it was clogged with people. There were also hundreds of students still outside at that point they weren't letting in until all the ticketed people got in.

Original stadium seated 23,000. They added 7500 (the "ears") several yrs ago bringing it up to 30,500. A few months ago they removed the "ears" from south end, both sides, (3750 seats) thus 30,500 minus 3750 puts capacity, if packed shoulder to shoulder, at 26,750. Now, someone post the West side photo, thats where most of the empties were. That would settle this discussion as everyone could see for themselves. Makes no difference how many parking lots were full, how many were standing around, etc.

What is your fixation with LA Tech?

(09-23-2014 10:22 AM)Smaug Wrote:  

(09-23-2014 08:32 AM)eager eagle Wrote:  

(09-23-2014 01:07 AM)Saint Greg Wrote:  

(09-22-2014 08:40 PM)eager eagle Wrote:  

(09-22-2014 07:53 PM)T_Won1 Wrote:  The ears were 3/4 full EE. I don't think we had 26,000 though. I was thinking 23 to 24K before they announced 26,000.

26,004 means there could be no more than 750 empties in your 26,750 venue. Click to enlarge the photo and look at the upper left hand section in the photo, the East ear. It seats 1850 and is at least half or 925 empties right there. Look at the farthest four sections to right or South end, upper two and bottom two. Every empty there would add on up and then show us the West side if you can. That will better explain my estimate because that is where the other "ear" is located and has many less than the one on the East plus a number of other sections with a lot of blanks.

27,700 and change is the current capacity. It also matters when that pic was taken. I entered the east side after it was 7-0. I didn't get to a seat until after our 2nd possession. The walkway from the south side to the north side where there were seats Took more than our entire possession because it was clogged with people. There were also hundreds of students still outside at that point they weren't letting in until all the ticketed people got in.

Original stadium seated 23,000. They added 7500 (the "ears") several yrs ago bringing it up to 30,500. A few months ago they removed the "ears" from south end, both sides, (3750 seats) thus 30,500 minus 3750 puts capacity, if packed shoulder to shoulder, at 26,750. Now, someone post the West side photo, thats where most of the empties were. That would settle this discussion as everyone could see for themselves. Makes no difference how many parking lots were full, how many were standing around, etc.

What is your fixation with LA Tech?

I think his wife left him for a woman that graduated from LaTech.

(09-23-2014 08:30 AM)benny_t Wrote:  

(09-22-2014 09:44 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  

(09-22-2014 09:23 PM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  My only thing is, why not report the real number, thats all. Imagine what people inside the stadium think when they announce these numbers.

Giving the AD attendance bonuses, if thats true then I'm not sure what to say.

It is true, unfortunately.

And I remember well, us winning the MAC. Call it what you will. I told you i will call it like i see it, regardless of anything else and i dont give a **** about some internet reputation. Im not here to be your friend. Im here to talk sports OBJECTIVELY. and that includes not sugar coating it. If Marshall sucked i would say it. When we do, i do say it. I criticize my own team as much as anyone else. I tell it like it is. The way that i see it. Many of you may disagree or call me an ******* or whatever. Fact is, when something is a matter of opinion, sometimes i am right, sometimes i am wrong. I try to talk facts, not feelings when possible. Like the fact that fiu is in shambles currently.

Just like the real attendance vs actually reported. I call out rice, and fiu for fake attendance. Did anyone see the rice odu game? 300 fans at best. When attendance is the topic, i will talk about attendnace. Sorry if that mkes the fans of sub par attended programs butt hurt.

Lighten up or learn to count. I'm hoping there was a little sarcasm in that number but there were way more than 300 fans at the rice game. It didn't help that the camera crew kept showing the away side of the field. They did show the home side a couple times and you could see a decent crowd. I'm not saying it was great but it was decent. Of course most of the stadium looks empty when your playing in 70,000 seat stadiums like Rice and UAB

All true. Thanks.

But nobody reports actual butts in seats. Even the guys who are so proud of their sellout crowds have some empty seats. It is consistent to use tickets sold across the board.

(09-23-2014 08:30 AM)benny_t Wrote:  

(09-22-2014 09:44 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  

(09-22-2014 09:23 PM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  My only thing is, why not report the real number, thats all. Imagine what people inside the stadium think when they announce these numbers.

Giving the AD attendance bonuses, if thats true then I'm not sure what to say.

It is true, unfortunately.

And I remember well, us winning the MAC. Call it what you will. I told you i will call it like i see it, regardless of anything else and i dont give a **** about some internet reputation. Im not here to be your friend. Im here to talk sports OBJECTIVELY. and that includes not sugar coating it. If Marshall sucked i would say it. When we do, i do say it. I criticize my own team as much as anyone else. I tell it like it is. The way that i see it. Many of you may disagree or call me an ******* or whatever. Fact is, when something is a matter of opinion, sometimes i am right, sometimes i am wrong. I try to talk facts, not feelings when possible. Like the fact that fiu is in shambles currently.

Just like the real attendance vs actually reported. I call out rice, and fiu for fake attendance. Did anyone see the rice odu game? 300 fans at best. When attendance is the topic, i will talk about attendnace. Sorry if that mkes the fans of sub par attended programs butt hurt.

Lighten up or learn to count. I'm hoping there was a little sarcasm in that number but there were way more than 300 fans at the rice game. It didn't help that the camera crew kept showing the away side of the field. They did show the home side a couple times and you could see a decent crowd. I'm not saying it was great but it was decent. Of course most of the stadium looks empty when your playing in 70,000 seat stadiums like Rice and UAB

Bingo.

UAB plays in a 72K seat tomb. The cameras have their back to the home side (yes, when you have a stadium that big, and average less than 30K, there is a "home" side). You see what the camera shows you, the visitors' side, which in some cases makes up 5-10% of the people in the stadium.

Look at it this way. Some stadiums entire capacity in C-USA (and most in the Smelt) would all fit on the home side out of view of the camera at Lesion Field. Let that sink in next time someone criticizes Rice and UAB especially. If we had a 30K seat stadium it would look full.

(09-23-2014 11:14 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(09-23-2014 08:30 AM)benny_t Wrote:  

(09-22-2014 09:44 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  

(09-22-2014 09:23 PM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  My only thing is, why not report the real number, thats all. Imagine what people inside the stadium think when they announce these numbers.

Giving the AD attendance bonuses, if thats true then I'm not sure what to say.

It is true, unfortunately.

And I remember well, us winning the MAC. Call it what you will. I told you i will call it like i see it, regardless of anything else and i dont give a **** about some internet reputation. Im not here to be your friend. Im here to talk sports OBJECTIVELY. and that includes not sugar coating it. If Marshall sucked i would say it. When we do, i do say it. I criticize my own team as much as anyone else. I tell it like it is. The way that i see it. Many of you may disagree or call me an ******* or whatever. Fact is, when something is a matter of opinion, sometimes i am right, sometimes i am wrong. I try to talk facts, not feelings when possible. Like the fact that fiu is in shambles currently.

Just like the real attendance vs actually reported. I call out rice, and fiu for fake attendance. Did anyone see the rice odu game? 300 fans at best. When attendance is the topic, i will talk about attendnace. Sorry if that mkes the fans of sub par attended programs butt hurt.

Lighten up or learn to count. I'm hoping there was a little sarcasm in that number but there were way more than 300 fans at the rice game. It didn't help that the camera crew kept showing the away side of the field. They did show the home side a couple times and you could see a decent crowd. I'm not saying it was great but it was decent. Of course most of the stadium looks empty when your playing in 70,000 seat stadiums like Rice and UAB

All true. Thanks.

But nobody reports actual butts in seats. Even the guys who are so proud of their sellout crowds have some empty seats. It is consistent to use tickets sold across the board.

Agreed. We like to talk about our sellout record of every home game but I see plenty of empty seats around our stadium. I know some are from out of town alumni who have season tickets and can't make certain games. There are others that hang out in the big blue room (only place in the stadium that sells alcohol and have to have certain seats to access) the entire game. I also know there are others that just don't show up. Some of this in the past has been because of weak opponents at home but that shouldn't be the case from here on out.

UTEP should be at 40+K.

Disappointing. But still outdrawing most of the G5 conference members.

A big gap in between home games is not going to help.

(09-23-2014 11:14 AM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  I think his wife left him for a woman that graduated from LaTech.

Bradshaw stole his girlfriend.

(09-23-2014 08:32 AM)eager eagle Wrote:  

(09-23-2014 01:07 AM)Saint Greg Wrote:  

(09-22-2014 08:40 PM)eager eagle Wrote:  

(09-22-2014 07:53 PM)T_Won1 Wrote:  The ears were 3/4 full EE. I don't think we had 26,000 though. I was thinking 23 to 24K before they announced 26,000.

26,004 means there could be no more than 750 empties in your 26,750 venue. Click to enlarge the photo and look at the upper left hand section in the photo, the East ear. It seats 1850 and is at least half or 925 empties right there. Look at the farthest four sections to right or South end, upper two and bottom two. Every empty there would add on up and then show us the West side if you can. That will better explain my estimate because that is where the other "ear" is located and has many less than the one on the East plus a number of other sections with a lot of blanks.

27,700 and change is the current capacity. It also matters when that pic was taken. I entered the east side after it was 7-0. I didn't get to a seat until after our 2nd possession. The walkway from the south side to the north side where there were seats Took more than our entire possession because it was clogged with people. There were also hundreds of students still outside at that point they weren't letting in until all the ticketed people got in.

Original stadium seated 23,000. They added 7500 (the "ears") several yrs ago bringing it up to 30,500. A few months ago they removed the "ears" from south end, both sides, (3750 seats) thus 30,500 minus 3750 puts capacity, if packed shoulder to shoulder, at 26,750. Now, someone post the West side photo, thats where most of the empties were. That would settle this discussion as everyone could see for themselves. Makes no difference how many parking lots were full, how many were standing around, etc.

Here's a 360 degree look. Fact is, it looks EXACTLY like what they told us: 26,004 in the stands. Stadium seating capacity is currently 27,500, per athletic dept today. Because of construction, we temporarily lost 2 sections that hold 1,500 seats each, for a total of 3K lost seats total, not 3,750.

http://youtu.be/aplMhleL-js

(09-23-2014 07:00 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(09-23-2014 08:32 AM)eager eagle Wrote:  

(09-23-2014 01:07 AM)Saint Greg Wrote:  

(09-22-2014 08:40 PM)eager eagle Wrote:  

(09-22-2014 07:53 PM)T_Won1 Wrote:  The ears were 3/4 full EE. I don't think we had 26,000 though. I was thinking 23 to 24K before they announced 26,000.

26,004 means there could be no more than 750 empties in your 26,750 venue. Click to enlarge the photo and look at the upper left hand section in the photo, the East ear. It seats 1850 and is at least half or 925 empties right there. Look at the farthest four sections to right or South end, upper two and bottom two. Every empty there would add on up and then show us the West side if you can. That will better explain my estimate because that is where the other "ear" is located and has many less than the one on the East plus a number of other sections with a lot of blanks.

27,700 and change is the current capacity. It also matters when that pic was taken. I entered the east side after it was 7-0. I didn't get to a seat until after our 2nd possession. The walkway from the south side to the north side where there were seats Took more than our entire possession because it was clogged with people. There were also hundreds of students still outside at that point they weren't letting in until all the ticketed people got in.

Original stadium seated 23,000. They added 7500 (the "ears") several yrs ago bringing it up to 30,500. A few months ago they removed the "ears" from south end, both sides, (3750 seats) thus 30,500 minus 3750 puts capacity, if packed shoulder to shoulder, at 26,750. Now, someone post the West side photo, thats where most of the empties were. That would settle this discussion as everyone could see for themselves. Makes no difference how many parking lots were full, how many were standing around, etc.

Here's a 360 degree look.

http://youtu.be/aplMhleL-js

Can't wait for EE's response after watching that video

(09-23-2014 07:03 PM)winston70 Wrote:  

(09-23-2014 07:00 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(09-23-2014 08:32 AM)eager eagle Wrote:  

(09-23-2014 01:07 AM)Saint Greg Wrote:  

(09-22-2014 08:40 PM)eager eagle Wrote:  26,004 means there could be no more than 750 empties in your 26,750 venue. Click to enlarge the photo and look at the upper left hand section in the photo, the East ear. It seats 1850 and is at least half or 925 empties right there. Look at the farthest four sections to right or South end, upper two and bottom two. Every empty there would add on up and then show us the West side if you can. That will better explain my estimate because that is where the other "ear" is located and has many less than the one on the East plus a number of other sections with a lot of blanks.

27,700 and change is the current capacity. It also matters when that pic was taken. I entered the east side after it was 7-0. I didn't get to a seat until after our 2nd possession. The walkway from the south side to the north side where there were seats Took more than our entire possession because it was clogged with people. There were also hundreds of students still outside at that point they weren't letting in until all the ticketed people got in.

Original stadium seated 23,000. They added 7500 (the "ears") several yrs ago bringing it up to 30,500. A few months ago they removed the "ears" from south end, both sides, (3750 seats) thus 30,500 minus 3750 puts capacity, if packed shoulder to shoulder, at 26,750. Now, someone post the West side photo, thats where most of the empties were. That would settle this discussion as everyone could see for themselves. Makes no difference how many parking lots were full, how many were standing around, etc.

Here's a 360 degree look.

http://youtu.be/aplMhleL-js

Can't wait for EE's response after watching that video

I'm sure he'll say something unintelligent like "That's not even LA Tech. That's some other team and some other stadium.".

(09-23-2014 07:00 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(09-23-2014 08:32 AM)eager eagle Wrote:  

(09-23-2014 01:07 AM)Saint Greg Wrote:  

(09-22-2014 08:40 PM)eager eagle Wrote:  

(09-22-2014 07:53 PM)T_Won1 Wrote:  The ears were 3/4 full EE. I don't think we had 26,000 though. I was thinking 23 to 24K before they announced 26,000.

26,004 means there could be no more than 750 empties in your 26,750 venue. Click to enlarge the photo and look at the upper left hand section in the photo, the East ear. It seats 1850 and is at least half or 925 empties right there. Look at the farthest four sections to right or South end, upper two and bottom two. Every empty there would add on up and then show us the West side if you can. That will better explain my estimate because that is where the other "ear" is located and has many less than the one on the East plus a number of other sections with a lot of blanks.

27,700 and change is the current capacity. It also matters when that pic was taken. I entered the east side after it was 7-0. I didn't get to a seat until after our 2nd possession. The walkway from the south side to the north side where there were seats Took more than our entire possession because it was clogged with people. There were also hundreds of students still outside at that point they weren't letting in until all the ticketed people got in.

Original stadium seated 23,000. They added 7500 (the "ears") several yrs ago bringing it up to 30,500. A few months ago they removed the "ears" from south end, both sides, (3750 seats) thus 30,500 minus 3750 puts capacity, if packed shoulder to shoulder, at 26,750. Now, someone post the West side photo, thats where most of the empties were. That would settle this discussion as everyone could see for themselves. Makes no difference how many parking lots were full, how many were standing around, etc.

Here's a 360 degree look. Fact is, it looks EXACTLY like what they told us: 26,004 in the stands. Stadium seating capacity is currently 27,500, per athletic dept today. Because of construction, we temporarily lost 2 sections that hold 1,500 seats each, for a total of 3K lost seats total, not 3,750.

http://youtu.be/aplMhleL-js

You must have some student volunteers in your athletic dept. Per your own web site the original stadium seated 23,000 and they later added 7600 (my bad-I said 7500). These were the "ears", EQUAL SIZE SECTIONS added on both sides, both ends. Therefore when they removed those on the South end it means you lost two sections holding 1900 each or total of 3800 deducted from 30,600 leaving capacity of 26,800.

The 360 degree look shows empties in first lower section, then some in next sections, and then COMPLETELY avoids the "ear" on North end of West side and hardly gives a glimpse of "ear" on East side North end. Simply post a clear wide angle frontal of the West side as was done of the East and then people can see for themselves.

I love these attendance threads...

Where else can use the catchy acronym "BIS"?

(09-23-2014 07:40 PM)eager eagle Wrote:  

(09-23-2014 07:00 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(09-23-2014 08:32 AM)eager eagle Wrote:  

(09-23-2014 01:07 AM)Saint Greg Wrote:  

(09-22-2014 08:40 PM)eager eagle Wrote:  26,004 means there could be no more than 750 empties in your 26,750 venue. Click to enlarge the photo and look at the upper left hand section in the photo, the East ear. It seats 1850 and is at least half or 925 empties right there. Look at the farthest four sections to right or South end, upper two and bottom two. Every empty there would add on up and then show us the West side if you can. That will better explain my estimate because that is where the other "ear" is located and has many less than the one on the East plus a number of other sections with a lot of blanks.

27,700 and change is the current capacity. It also matters when that pic was taken. I entered the east side after it was 7-0. I didn't get to a seat until after our 2nd possession. The walkway from the south side to the north side where there were seats Took more than our entire possession because it was clogged with people. There were also hundreds of students still outside at that point they weren't letting in until all the ticketed people got in.

Original stadium seated 23,000. They added 7500 (the "ears") several yrs ago bringing it up to 30,500. A few months ago they removed the "ears" from south end, both sides, (3750 seats) thus 30,500 minus 3750 puts capacity, if packed shoulder to shoulder, at 26,750. Now, someone post the West side photo, thats where most of the empties were. That would settle this discussion as everyone could see for themselves. Makes no difference how many parking lots were full, how many were standing around, etc.

Here's a 360 degree look. Fact is, it looks EXACTLY like what they told us: 26,004 in the stands. Stadium seating capacity is currently 27,500, per athletic dept today. Because of construction, we temporarily lost 2 sections that hold 1,500 seats each, for a total of 3K lost seats total, not 3,750.

http://youtu.be/aplMhleL-js

You must have some student volunteers in your athletic dept. Per your own web site the original stadium seated 23,000 and they later added 7600 (my bad-I said 7500). These were the "ears", EQUAL SIZE SECTIONS added on both sides, both ends. Therefore when they removed those on the South end it means you lost two sections holding 1900 each or total of 3800 deducted from 30,600 leaving capacity of 26,800.

The 360 degree look shows empties in first lower section, then some in next sections, and then COMPLETELY avoids the "ear" on North end of West side and hardly gives a glimpse of "ear" on East side North end. Simply post a clear wide angle frontal of the West side as was done of the East and then people can see for themselves.

Great post

La Tech- That looked like a good crowd to me!

(09-23-2014 07:40 PM)eager eagle Wrote:  You must have some student volunteers in your athletic dept. Per your own web site the original stadium seated 23,000 and they later added 7600 (my bad-I said 7500). These were the "ears", EQUAL SIZE SECTIONS added on both sides, both ends. Therefore when they removed those on the South end it means you lost two sections holding 1900 each or total of 3800 deducted from 30,600 leaving capacity of 26,800.

The 360 degree look shows empties in first lower section, then some in next sections, and then COMPLETELY avoids the "ear" on North end of West side and hardly gives a glimpse of "ear" on East side North end. Simply post a clear wide angle frontal of the West side as was done of the East and then people can see for themselves.

I anticipated this and planned for such a response from EE! I have a 360 degree video of all the bathrooms and the concessions areas too that I will post later; still working on getting the releases from the ladies bathrooms.