Big Time AAC Football. Opening Kickoff UConn at USF last night. Yea it was raining a little, so what.

(09-20-2014 08:01 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  

Big Time AAC Football. Opening Kickoff UConn at USF last night. Yea it was raining a little, so what.

God, at first I thought it was a shot of the Georgia Dome until I saw the color of the seats.

(09-20-2014 08:19 AM)sarkelcpa Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 08:01 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  

Big Time AAC Football. Opening Kickoff UConn at USF last night. Yea it was raining a little, so what.

God, at first I thought it was a shot of the Georgia Dome until I saw the color of the seats.

I'm starting to think USF was a flash in the pan. They went from nothing to a BCS conference. There's probably a good reason why they didn't have football for so long. They are Tampa Bay's 5th team.
http://www.tampabay.com/sports/

(09-20-2014 08:39 AM)Louisianafanrcajun90 Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 08:19 AM)sarkelcpa Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 08:01 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  

Big Time AAC Football. Opening Kickoff UConn at USF last night. Yea it was raining a little, so what.

God, at first I thought it was a shot of the Georgia Dome until I saw the color of the seats.

I'm starting to think USF was a flash in the pan. They went from nothing to a BCS conference. There's probably a good reason why they didn't have football for so long. They are Tampa Bay's 5th team.
http://www.tampabay.com/sports/

I agree. Good programs have multiple generations following and donating. It takes a long time to build a stable and consistent fan/donor base.

Corporate sponsorships are nice, but without the butts in the seats, wins, and eyes on the TV, those will go away quickly.

MARKETS!!!

(09-20-2014 09:12 AM)AppinVA Wrote:  MARKETS!!!

EXACTLY!!!

You folks starting to learn that big media markets don't mean ShEEt yet?
It's not where the school is. It's how big and loyal (with growth potential) is your fan base!

(09-20-2014 08:39 AM)Louisianafanrcajun90 Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 08:19 AM)sarkelcpa Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 08:01 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  

Big Time AAC Football. Opening Kickoff UConn at USF last night. Yea it was raining a little, so what.

God, at first I thought it was a shot of the Georgia Dome until I saw the color of the seats.

I'm starting to think USF was a flash in the pan. They went from nothing to a BCS conference. There's probably a good reason why they didn't have football for so long. They are Tampa Bay's 5th team.
http://www.tampabay.com/sports/

Raymond James is nice but too big for them.
Building an appropriate sized expandable on campus stadium would be better. UTSA is a different situation it will be interesting to see if they continue to thrive. I'm not aware of a team starting out in a big stadium and thriving.

(09-20-2014 09:22 AM)MJG Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 08:39 AM)Louisianafanrcajun90 Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 08:19 AM)sarkelcpa Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 08:01 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  

Big Time AAC Football. Opening Kickoff UConn at USF last night. Yea it was raining a little, so what.

God, at first I thought it was a shot of the Georgia Dome until I saw the color of the seats.

I'm starting to think USF was a flash in the pan. They went from nothing to a BCS conference. There's probably a good reason why they didn't have football for so long. They are Tampa Bay's 5th team.
http://www.tampabay.com/sports/

Raymond James is nice but too big for them.
Building an appropriate sized expandable on campus stadium would be better. UTSA is a different situation it will be interesting to see if they continue to thrive. I'm not aware of a team starting out in a big stadium and thriving.

UTSA would be much better off with a open air stadium around the 40k capacity range. Similar to baylors.

It was raining pretty hard so can't give them too much grief. People nowadays are not going to sit in the rain.

The crowds at Rice and Duke today are terrible as well.

(09-20-2014 08:01 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  

Big Time AAC Football. Opening Kickoff UConn at USF last night. Yea it was raining a little, so what.

I'm certainly no AAC apologist, but let's at least be honest here. It was not "raining a little". It was an effing monsoon last night. I doubt App's attendance would've been much better in those conditions, though I'm not sure West Virginia has ever experienced rain like the USF game last night.

App had rain forecasted last home game and more than an inch fell during the game. 25k.

Nice tarps for the Rice game. What's the deal there?

(09-20-2014 02:40 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  App had rain forecasted last home game and more than an inch fell during the game. 25k.

Nice tarps for the Rice game. What's the deal there?

70,000 seat stadium. We'd all need tarps with a stadium that size.

(09-20-2014 11:58 AM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 09:22 AM)MJG Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 08:39 AM)Louisianafanrcajun90 Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 08:19 AM)sarkelcpa Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 08:01 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  

Big Time AAC Football. Opening Kickoff UConn at USF last night. Yea it was raining a little, so what.

God, at first I thought it was a shot of the Georgia Dome until I saw the color of the seats.

I'm starting to think USF was a flash in the pan. They went from nothing to a BCS conference. There's probably a good reason why they didn't have football for so long. They are Tampa Bay's 5th team.
http://www.tampabay.com/sports/

Raymond James is nice but too big for them.
Building an appropriate sized expandable on campus stadium would be better. UTSA is a different situation it will be interesting to see if they continue to thrive. I'm not aware of a team starting out in a big stadium and thriving.

UTSA would be much better off with a open air stadium around the 40k capacity range. Similar to baylors.

Unless it is downtown, I disagree. UTSA is selling you on the AlamoDome / Riverwalk experience.
Part of the draw of going to a UTSA game is that you can fly into town, stay on the riverwalk, "tablegate" along the river, walk to the Dome and go back to your hotel for night two.

With 30,000 in the dome it gets loud because there is no where for the noise to go. The best thing they could do for TV is close off the upper deck unless it is absolutely necessary.

Not to pile on but USF's attendance was the same a few weeks ago...then again they were losing to FCS bottom dweller, Western Carolina.

(09-20-2014 03:31 PM)ButlerGSU Wrote:  Not to pile on but USF's attendance was the same a few weeks ago...then again they were losing to FCS bottom dweller, Western Carolina.

Agreed. Not saying USF's attendance is anything other than abysmal. Just saying that in the game last night it was excusable and the OP wasn't being honest when he said "raining a little".

(09-20-2014 09:22 AM)MJG Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 08:39 AM)Louisianafanrcajun90 Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 08:19 AM)sarkelcpa Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 08:01 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  

Big Time AAC Football. Opening Kickoff UConn at USF last night. Yea it was raining a little, so what.

God, at first I thought it was a shot of the Georgia Dome until I saw the color of the seats.

I'm starting to think USF was a flash in the pan. They went from nothing to a BCS conference. There's probably a good reason why they didn't have football for so long. They are Tampa Bay's 5th team.
http://www.tampabay.com/sports/

Raymond James is nice but too big for them.
Building an appropriate sized expandable on campus stadium would be better. UTSA is a different situation it will be interesting to see if they continue to thrive. I'm not aware of a team starting out in a big stadium and thriving.

That stadium got them P5 home games with Maryland and NC State this year, Syracuse in 2015, Florida State in 2016, Illinois and Wisconsin in 2017. The official attendance was announced at 28,273 last night. They averaged 34,702 last year. I would not let go of that venue. In that market and with the talent available in Florida, they are in a good position going forward.

(09-20-2014 04:06 PM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 09:22 AM)MJG Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 08:39 AM)Louisianafanrcajun90 Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 08:19 AM)sarkelcpa Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 08:01 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  

Big Time AAC Football. Opening Kickoff UConn at USF last night. Yea it was raining a little, so what.

God, at first I thought it was a shot of the Georgia Dome until I saw the color of the seats.

I'm starting to think USF was a flash in the pan. They went from nothing to a BCS conference. There's probably a good reason why they didn't have football for so long. They are Tampa Bay's 5th team.
http://www.tampabay.com/sports/

Raymond James is nice but too big for them.
Building an appropriate sized expandable on campus stadium would be better. UTSA is a different situation it will be interesting to see if they continue to thrive. I'm not aware of a team starting out in a big stadium and thriving.

That stadium got them P5 home games with Maryland and NC State this year, Syracuse in 2015, Florida State in 2016, Illinois and Wisconsin in 2017. The official attendance was announced at 28,273 last night. They averaged 34,702 last year. I would not let go of that venue. In that market and with the talent available in Florida, they are in a good position going forward.

28,000? They are using Tulane math. They are 5th in the pecking order in Tampa. They do NOT deliver that market. I have no ill will towards USF. If they win, people will come. If not they are hardly on the Tampa radar. What does your location have to do with the worth of your school? Starksville is a sleepy little Southern town but they have an SEC team because they draw interest all over the region and country. The same could be said for Bama. North Texas and UTA are in a huge market. Neither deliver it.

(09-20-2014 06:44 PM)Louisianafanrcajun90 Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 04:06 PM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 09:22 AM)MJG Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 08:39 AM)Louisianafanrcajun90 Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 08:19 AM)sarkelcpa Wrote:  God, at first I thought it was a shot of the Georgia Dome until I saw the color of the seats.

I'm starting to think USF was a flash in the pan. They went from nothing to a BCS conference. There's probably a good reason why they didn't have football for so long. They are Tampa Bay's 5th team.
http://www.tampabay.com/sports/

Raymond James is nice but too big for them.
Building an appropriate sized expandable on campus stadium would be better. UTSA is a different situation it will be interesting to see if they continue to thrive. I'm not aware of a team starting out in a big stadium and thriving.

That stadium got them P5 home games with Maryland and NC State this year, Syracuse in 2015, Florida State in 2016, Illinois and Wisconsin in 2017. The official attendance was announced at 28,273 last night. They averaged 34,702 last year. I would not let go of that venue. In that market and with the talent available in Florida, they are in a good position going forward.

28,000? They are using Tulane math. They are 5th in the pecking order in Tampa. They do NOT deliver that market. I have no ill will towards USF. If they win, people will come. If not they are hardly on the Tampa radar. What does your location have to do with the worth of your school? Starksville is a sleepy little Southern town but they have an SEC team because they draw interest all over the region and country. The same could be said for Bama. North Texas and UTA are in a huge market. Neither deliver it.

I doubt it would be cost effective but a two venue approach would be ideal. One P5 a year at Raymond James and five on campus at a Tulane type stadium.

(09-20-2014 07:53 PM)MJG Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 06:44 PM)Louisianafanrcajun90 Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 04:06 PM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 09:22 AM)MJG Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 08:39 AM)Louisianafanrcajun90 Wrote:  I'm starting to think USF was a flash in the pan. They went from nothing to a BCS conference. There's probably a good reason why they didn't have football for so long. They are Tampa Bay's 5th team.
http://www.tampabay.com/sports/

Raymond James is nice but too big for them.
Building an appropriate sized expandable on campus stadium would be better. UTSA is a different situation it will be interesting to see if they continue to thrive. I'm not aware of a team starting out in a big stadium and thriving.

That stadium got them P5 home games with Maryland and NC State this year, Syracuse in 2015, Florida State in 2016, Illinois and Wisconsin in 2017. The official attendance was announced at 28,273 last night. They averaged 34,702 last year. I would not let go of that venue. In that market and with the talent available in Florida, they are in a good position going forward.

28,000? They are using Tulane math. They are 5th in the pecking order in Tampa. They do NOT deliver that market. I have no ill will towards USF. If they win, people will come. If not they are hardly on the Tampa radar. What does your location have to do with the worth of your school? Starksville is a sleepy little Southern town but they have an SEC team because they draw interest all over the region and country. The same could be said for Bama. North Texas and UTA are in a huge market. Neither deliver it.

I doubt it would be cost effective but a two venue approach would be ideal. One P5 a year at Raymond James and five on campus at a Tulane type stadium.

The Uptown area might as well be a city to itself. There is a large population of Jewish people with many go to high school and later Tulane from that area. I know a lot of life long residents of that area that are going to the games. If they lay an egg this and next year that stadium will also be empty. The Superdome is a five minute trip for Tulane. The locals will not support a loser.