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(09-19-2014 07:59 AM)comiceagle Wrote:  https://latech.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1679130Backfire

I know Derek Dooley (former La. Tech Head Coach) got in some trouble for saying that LT had achieved "separation" from the Sun Belt programs.

But he was speaking the truth.

(09-19-2014 10:55 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  I know Derek Dooley (former La. Tech Head Coach) got in some trouble for saying that LT had achieved "separation" from the Sun Belt programs.

But he was speaking the truth.

Our all time record against the Sunbelt shows the separation

(09-19-2014 11:12 PM)winston70 Wrote:  

(09-19-2014 10:55 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  I know Derek Dooley (former La. Tech Head Coach) got in some trouble for saying that LT had achieved "separation" from the Sun Belt programs.

But he was speaking the truth.

Our all time record against the Sunbelt shows the separation

Yeah, I guess we were transitional and still a year away from being a Sun Belt member when Dwone Hicks separated from your defense for 311 yards, 6 TDs and 9.7ypc.

(09-20-2014 01:20 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(09-19-2014 11:12 PM)winston70 Wrote:  

(09-19-2014 10:55 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  I know Derek Dooley (former La. Tech Head Coach) got in some trouble for saying that LT had achieved "separation" from the Sun Belt programs.

But he was speaking the truth.

Our all time record against the Sunbelt shows the separation

Yeah, I guess we were transitional and still a year away from being a Sun Belt member when Dwone Hicks separated from your defense for 311 yards, 6 TDs and 9.7ypc.

I wasn't talking about 1 game against MTSU - that's why I said all time record

(09-20-2014 01:20 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(09-19-2014 11:12 PM)winston70 Wrote:  

(09-19-2014 10:55 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  I know Derek Dooley (former La. Tech Head Coach) got in some trouble for saying that LT had achieved "separation" from the Sun Belt programs.

But he was speaking the truth.

Our all time record against the Sunbelt shows the separation

Yeah, I guess we were transitional and still a year away from being a Sun Belt member when Dwone Hicks separated from your defense for 311 yards, 6 TDs and 9.7ypc.

If we weren't superior to the Sunbelt, why did you students tear down the goal post?

As the man said, overall, our record vs Sunbelt teams shoes separation.

(09-20-2014 09:40 AM)DAWGZILLA Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 01:20 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(09-19-2014 11:12 PM)winston70 Wrote:  

(09-19-2014 10:55 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  I know Derek Dooley (former La. Tech Head Coach) got in some trouble for saying that LT had achieved "separation" from the Sun Belt programs.

But he was speaking the truth.

Our all time record against the Sunbelt shows the separation

Yeah, I guess we were transitional and still a year away from being a Sun Belt member when Dwone Hicks separated from your defense for 311 yards, 6 TDs and 9.7ypc.

If we weren't superior to the Sunbelt, why did you students tear down the goal post?

As the man said, overall, our record vs Sunbelt teams shoes separation.

Because you were our first ever win over a FBS program.

(09-20-2014 07:44 AM)winston70 Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 01:20 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(09-19-2014 11:12 PM)winston70 Wrote:  

(09-19-2014 10:55 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  I know Derek Dooley (former La. Tech Head Coach) got in some trouble for saying that LT had achieved "separation" from the Sun Belt programs.

But he was speaking the truth.

Our all time record against the Sunbelt shows the separation

Yeah, I guess we were transitional and still a year away from being a Sun Belt member when Dwone Hicks separated from your defense for 311 yards, 6 TDs and 9.7ypc.

I wasn't talking about 1 game against MTSU - that's why I said all time record

A small sample size against against terrible teams.

2003- LT 34 Cajuns 3(Cajuns 4-8, 3rd place in conference)
2004- LT 24 Cajuns 20(Cajuns 4-7, tied for last in conference)
2005- LT 40 UNT 14(UNT 2-9, tied for last in conference)
2006- LT 34 UNT 31(UNT 3-9, 7th in conference)

Your win over the Cajuns this year might be the only Sun Belt team worth a damn that you've played(and that remains to be seen), I've never said your choice to move to the WAC was a bad one, you played in a better conference and didn't have to be peers with ULM, I get it, I do, but separation?

If you say so.

(09-20-2014 10:36 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  A small sample size against against terrible teams.

2003- LT 34 Cajuns 3(Cajuns 4-8, 3rd place in conference)
2004- LT 24 Cajuns 20(Cajuns 4-7, tied for last in conference)
2005- LT 40 UNT 14(UNT 2-9, tied for last in conference)
2006- LT 34 UNT 31(UNT 3-9, 7th in conference)

Your win over the Cajuns this year might be the only Sun Belt team worth a damn that you've played(and that remains to be seen), I've never said your choice to move to the WAC was a bad one, you played in a better conference and didn't have to be peers with ULM, I get it, I do, but separation?

If you say so.

You sound like a Memphis fan.

(09-20-2014 11:07 AM)RougeDawg Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 10:36 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  A small sample size against against terrible teams.

2003- LT 34 Cajuns 3(Cajuns 4-8, 3rd place in conference)
2004- LT 24 Cajuns 20(Cajuns 4-7, tied for last in conference)
2005- LT 40 UNT 14(UNT 2-9, tied for last in conference)
2006- LT 34 UNT 31(UNT 3-9, 7th in conference)

Your win over the Cajuns this year might be the only Sun Belt team worth a damn that you've played(and that remains to be seen), I've never said your choice to move to the WAC was a bad one, you played in a better conference and didn't have to be peers with ULM, I get it, I do, but separation?

If you say so.

You sound like a Memphis fan.

How's that?

Memphis fans are claiming superiority over MT when we've beaten them 5 out of 6, you're claiming superiority over an entire conference based on beating two members a combined 5 times, not one(so far) with a winning record and 3 out of 4(from completed seasons) against teams at the bottom of the conference.

Suppose sone AAC team beat FIU and UTEP four times, neither team with a winning record in any of the four games, would you say that AAC team was superior to CUSA?

(09-20-2014 10:36 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 07:44 AM)winston70 Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 01:20 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(09-19-2014 11:12 PM)winston70 Wrote:  

(09-19-2014 10:55 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  I know Derek Dooley (former La. Tech Head Coach) got in some trouble for saying that LT had achieved "separation" from the Sun Belt programs.

But he was speaking the truth.

Our all time record against the Sunbelt shows the separation

Yeah, I guess we were transitional and still a year away from being a Sun Belt member when Dwone Hicks separated from your defense for 311 yards, 6 TDs and 9.7ypc.

I wasn't talking about 1 game against MTSU - that's why I said all time record

A small sample size against against terrible teams.

2003- LT 34 Cajuns 3(Cajuns 4-8, 3rd place in conference)
2004- LT 24 Cajuns 20(Cajuns 4-7, tied for last in conference)
2005- LT 40 UNT 14(UNT 2-9, tied for last in conference)
2006- LT 34 UNT 31(UNT 3-9, 7th in conference)

Your win over the Cajuns this year might be the only Sun Belt team worth a damn that you've played(and that remains to be seen), I've never said your choice to move to the WAC was a bad one, you played in a better conference and didn't have to be peers with ULM, I get it, I do, but separation?

If you say so.

ULL hasn't beat Tech in almost 20 years. ULM hasn't beat Tech in almost 30 years. That's 7 straight wins against ULL and 8 straight wins against ULM.

(09-20-2014 11:23 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 11:07 AM)RougeDawg Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 10:36 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  A small sample size against against terrible teams.

2003- LT 34 Cajuns 3(Cajuns 4-8, 3rd place in conference)
2004- LT 24 Cajuns 20(Cajuns 4-7, tied for last in conference)
2005- LT 40 UNT 14(UNT 2-9, tied for last in conference)
2006- LT 34 UNT 31(UNT 3-9, 7th in conference)

Your win over the Cajuns this year might be the only Sun Belt team worth a damn that you've played(and that remains to be seen), I've never said your choice to move to the WAC was a bad one, you played in a better conference and didn't have to be peers with ULM, I get it, I do, but separation?

If you say so.

You sound like a Memphis fan.

How's that?

Memphis fans are claiming superiority over MT when we've beaten them 5 out of 6, you're claiming superiority over an entire conference based on beating two members a combined 5 times, not one(so far) with a winning record and 3 out of 4(from completed seasons) against teams at the bottom of the conference.

Suppose sone AAC team beat FIU and UTEP four times, neither team with a winning record in any of the four games, would you say that AAC team was superior to CUSA?

Can we stay on topic?

ULL ended up with egg on its face. And the LT recruits laughed.

(09-20-2014 11:33 AM)Saint Greg Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 10:36 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 07:44 AM)winston70 Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 01:20 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(09-19-2014 11:12 PM)winston70 Wrote:  Our all time record against the Sunbelt shows the separation

Yeah, I guess we were transitional and still a year away from being a Sun Belt member when Dwone Hicks separated from your defense for 311 yards, 6 TDs and 9.7ypc.

I wasn't talking about 1 game against MTSU - that's why I said all time record

A small sample size against against terrible teams.

2003- LT 34 Cajuns 3(Cajuns 4-8, 3rd place in conference)
2004- LT 24 Cajuns 20(Cajuns 4-7, tied for last in conference)
2005- LT 40 UNT 14(UNT 2-9, tied for last in conference)
2006- LT 34 UNT 31(UNT 3-9, 7th in conference)

Your win over the Cajuns this year might be the only Sun Belt team worth a damn that you've played(and that remains to be seen), I've never said your choice to move to the WAC was a bad one, you played in a better conference and didn't have to be peers with ULM, I get it, I do, but separation?

If you say so.

ULL hasn't beat Tech in almost 20 years. ULM hasn't beat Tech in almost 30 years. That's 7 straight wins against ULL and 8 straight wins against ULM.

This year was (potentially) the first good team you beat in any of those games, I know I'm not telling you anything you don't already know by pointing out that being better than those two isn't saying much. Up until the last few years, neither of them were really a factor in conference.

Again, I get it, in your position at the time I wouldn't have wanted to be in the Sun Belt either, it was a good home for us brand new to FBS. You guys rightfully viewed it as the home of ULL and ULM and a bunch of FBS newbies.

My only point is, I don't think you can claim superiority over an entire conference based on your history with ULL and ULM and a pair of wins over UNT that had 5 combined wins.

(09-20-2014 11:41 AM)RUNVSFD MINER Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 11:23 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 11:07 AM)RougeDawg Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 10:36 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  A small sample size against against terrible teams.

2003- LT 34 Cajuns 3(Cajuns 4-8, 3rd place in conference)
2004- LT 24 Cajuns 20(Cajuns 4-7, tied for last in conference)
2005- LT 40 UNT 14(UNT 2-9, tied for last in conference)
2006- LT 34 UNT 31(UNT 3-9, 7th in conference)

Your win over the Cajuns this year might be the only Sun Belt team worth a damn that you've played(and that remains to be seen), I've never said your choice to move to the WAC was a bad one, you played in a better conference and didn't have to be peers with ULM, I get it, I do, but separation?

If you say so.

You sound like a Memphis fan.

How's that?

Memphis fans are claiming superiority over MT when we've beaten them 5 out of 6, you're claiming superiority over an entire conference based on beating two members a combined 5 times, not one(so far) with a winning record and 3 out of 4(from completed seasons) against teams at the bottom of the conference.

Suppose sone AAC team beat FIU and UTEP four times, neither team with a winning record in any of the four games, would you say that AAC team was superior to CUSA?

Can we stay on topic?

ULL ended up with egg on its face. And the LT recruits laughed.

Thank you, Miner Fan.

(09-20-2014 11:41 AM)RUNVSFD MINER Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 11:23 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 11:07 AM)RougeDawg Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 10:36 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  A small sample size against against terrible teams.

2003- LT 34 Cajuns 3(Cajuns 4-8, 3rd place in conference)
2004- LT 24 Cajuns 20(Cajuns 4-7, tied for last in conference)
2005- LT 40 UNT 14(UNT 2-9, tied for last in conference)
2006- LT 34 UNT 31(UNT 3-9, 7th in conference)

Your win over the Cajuns this year might be the only Sun Belt team worth a damn that you've played(and that remains to be seen), I've never said your choice to move to the WAC was a bad one, you played in a better conference and didn't have to be peers with ULM, I get it, I do, but separation?

If you say so.

You sound like a Memphis fan.

How's that?

Memphis fans are claiming superiority over MT when we've beaten them 5 out of 6, you're claiming superiority over an entire conference based on beating two members a combined 5 times, not one(so far) with a winning record and 3 out of 4(from completed seasons) against teams at the bottom of the conference.

Suppose sone AAC team beat FIU and UTEP four times, neither team with a winning record in any of the four games, would you say that AAC team was superior to CUSA?

Can we stay on topic?

ULL ended up with egg on its face. And the LT recruits laughed.

More than a third of our current membership came from the Sun Belt and we did a lot of things I'm proud of when we were there, I like Tech and I'm glad to be conference mates with them, but I'm not going to just listen to this fallacious nonsense about an important part of MT's history.

(09-20-2014 11:50 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 11:41 AM)RUNVSFD MINER Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 11:23 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 11:07 AM)RougeDawg Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 10:36 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  A small sample size against against terrible teams.

2003- LT 34 Cajuns 3(Cajuns 4-8, 3rd place in conference)
2004- LT 24 Cajuns 20(Cajuns 4-7, tied for last in conference)
2005- LT 40 UNT 14(UNT 2-9, tied for last in conference)
2006- LT 34 UNT 31(UNT 3-9, 7th in conference)

Your win over the Cajuns this year might be the only Sun Belt team worth a damn that you've played(and that remains to be seen), I've never said your choice to move to the WAC was a bad one, you played in a better conference and didn't have to be peers with ULM, I get it, I do, but separation?

If you say so.

You sound like a Memphis fan.

How's that?

Memphis fans are claiming superiority over MT when we've beaten them 5 out of 6, you're claiming superiority over an entire conference based on beating two members a combined 5 times, not one(so far) with a winning record and 3 out of 4(from completed seasons) against teams at the bottom of the conference.

Suppose sone AAC team beat FIU and UTEP four times, neither team with a winning record in any of the four games, would you say that AAC team was superior to CUSA?

Can we stay on topic?

ULL ended up with egg on its face. And the LT recruits laughed.

More than a third of our current membership came from the Sun Belt and we did a lot of things I'm proud of when we were there, I like Tech and I'm glad to be conference mates with them, but I'm not going to just listen to this fallacious nonsense about an important part of MT's history.

So I guess we go on to never-ending MT arguments. I don't think I'm alone in saying it's getting old and annoying.

There comes a point where it just sounds like insecurity.

(09-20-2014 12:00 PM)RUNVSFD MINER Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 11:50 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 11:41 AM)RUNVSFD MINER Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 11:23 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 11:07 AM)RougeDawg Wrote:  You sound like a Memphis fan.

How's that?

Memphis fans are claiming superiority over MT when we've beaten them 5 out of 6, you're claiming superiority over an entire conference based on beating two members a combined 5 times, not one(so far) with a winning record and 3 out of 4(from completed seasons) against teams at the bottom of the conference.

Suppose sone AAC team beat FIU and UTEP four times, neither team with a winning record in any of the four games, would you say that AAC team was superior to CUSA?

Can we stay on topic?

ULL ended up with egg on its face. And the LT recruits laughed.

More than a third of our current membership came from the Sun Belt and we did a lot of things I'm proud of when we were there, I like Tech and I'm glad to be conference mates with them, but I'm not going to just listen to this fallacious nonsense about an important part of MT's history.

So I guess we go on to never-ending MT arguments. I don't think I'm alone in saying it's getting old and annoying.

There comes a point where it just sounds like insecurity.

Whatever you say Miner, I take pride in the history of my program. We beat the snot out of Tech last time we played them and they were not superior to the Sun Belt. Call it what you want friend, I'm just talking football on a Saturday afternoon.

(09-20-2014 11:46 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 11:33 AM)Saint Greg Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 10:36 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 07:44 AM)winston70 Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 01:20 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  Yeah, I guess we were transitional and still a year away from being a Sun Belt member when Dwone Hicks separated from your defense for 311 yards, 6 TDs and 9.7ypc.

I wasn't talking about 1 game against MTSU - that's why I said all time record

A small sample size against against terrible teams.

2003- LT 34 Cajuns 3(Cajuns 4-8, 3rd place in conference)
2004- LT 24 Cajuns 20(Cajuns 4-7, tied for last in conference)
2005- LT 40 UNT 14(UNT 2-9, tied for last in conference)
2006- LT 34 UNT 31(UNT 3-9, 7th in conference)

Your win over the Cajuns this year might be the only Sun Belt team worth a damn that you've played(and that remains to be seen), I've never said your choice to move to the WAC was a bad one, you played in a better conference and didn't have to be peers with ULM, I get it, I do, but separation?

If you say so.

ULL hasn't beat Tech in almost 20 years. ULM hasn't beat Tech in almost 30 years. That's 7 straight wins against ULL and 8 straight wins against ULM.

This year was (potentially) the first good team you beat in any of those games, I know I'm not telling you anything you don't already know by pointing out that being better than those two isn't saying much. Up until the last few years, neither of them were really a factor in conference.

Again, I get it, in your position at the time I wouldn't have wanted to be in the Sun Belt either, it was a good home for us brand new to FBS. You guys rightfully viewed it as the home of ULL and ULM and a bunch of FBS newbies.

My only point is, I don't think you can claim superiority over an entire conference based on your history with ULL and ULM and a pair of wins over UNT that had 5 combined wins.

I'm not going to bash current conference mates. MTSU and UNT aren't in the Belt anymore. There's a reason for that. I'm not claiming superiority over MTSU or UNT. Just ULL and ULM.

(09-20-2014 12:23 PM)Saint Greg Wrote:  I'm not going to bash current conference mates. MTSU and UNT aren't in the Belt anymore. There's a reason for that. I'm not claiming superiority over MTSU or UNT. Just ULL and ULM.

And that's fine, your record supports that.

I was glad to be out of the conference with ULM, but I do l like the Cajuns and coach Hud, their program is in a place I've never seen it. They have five 9 win seasons in their entire history and Hud has three of them.

I think if the Cajuns keep up their current form, you guys could actually finally find a rivalry there, if you wanted to. I know many of your fans won't want to due to having owned them in the past, but if they can be competitive and travel well I don't see why you wouldn't embrace the opportunity to finally have a real instate rival. Obviously it's not happening with ULM or LSU and I think the Cajuns would be a better choice than Tulane personally.