Interesting column by Hack:

http://www.bcsn.tv/news_article/show/420473

(09-17-2014 10:02 AM)RangerRocket Wrote:  Interesting column by Hack:

http://www.bcsn.tv/news_article/show/420473

He nailed it. He could have expanded to include people who are UT or BG grads and/or season ticket holders, yet are loyal to Columbus or Ann Arbor and are bandwagoners to UT or BG.

UT-Mizzou not selling out probably had as much to do with the HS rain reschedules as anything. Even the Kenton faithful didn't get a chance to attend.

Stupid knock on us. We haven't slipped to the depths of MAC attendance in a long time. Always in the top half. Are usually above 20k per year. Yea it's not great, but not Miami or EMU either.
OSU and Michigan didn't play when we played Mizzou so ours can't be blamed on the O$U or scUM fans. The other "option" was high school football. Something kids and parents are obligated to attend. No question we sell out for Mizzou if Kenton fans attend along with our many recruits and parents that were busy early that Saturday afternoon.

I don't think he's talking to the fans or to the "media" as a whole. I think he's taking to Elton Alexander. He totally wrote off BG after Johnson went down and he's already handed the title to Akron.

Season-ending loss of Bowling Green QB Matt Johnson leaves MAC division races wide open

No matter who, it's probably a bad idea to alienate folks after just three games.

(09-17-2014 10:19 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  UT-Mizzou not selling out probably had as much to do with the HS rain reschedules as anything. Even the Kenton faithful didn't get a chance to attend.

Wouldn't say that - looked like the entire Kenton football team was there. If they were supposed to have played at that time, then the team sitting near me with the Kenton varsity jackets on were doing a good job of impersonating them. I had heard they played on Saturday as well - so now I'm confused as to who was sitting in the stands.

(09-17-2014 08:50 PM)MotoRocket Wrote:  

(09-17-2014 10:19 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  UT-Mizzou not selling out probably had as much to do with the HS rain reschedules as anything. Even the Kenton faithful didn't get a chance to attend.

Wouldn't say that - looked like the entire Kenton football team was there. If they were supposed to have played at that time, then the team sitting near me with the Kenton varsity jackets on were doing a good job of impersonating them. I had heard they played on Saturday as well - so now I'm confused as to who was sitting in the stands.

Kenton vs Wapakoneta was moved to 2pm on that Saturday. Probably
some alums showed up with their Kenton Varsity Jackets to support their former QB, Mauk.

(09-17-2014 11:07 AM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  Stupid knock on us. We haven't slipped to the depths of MAC attendance in a long time. Always in the top half. Are usually above 20k per year. Yea it's not great, but not Miami or EMU either.
OSU and Michigan didn't play when we played Mizzou so ours can't be blamed on the O$U or scUM fans. The other "option" was high school football. Something kids and parents are obligated to attend. No question we sell out for Mizzou if Kenton fans attend along with our many recruits and parents that were busy early that Saturday afternoon.

Hack's point about UT-Mizzou attendance is valid. Although UT did beat the Bearcats and Navy at home and has taken care of BG for a while now, over the past several years UT still hasn't been winning enough of the marquee games to grab the interest of the band wagon folks. However, regardless of the excuses, the fact remains that UT did NOT sell out for a home game with a visiting ranked SEC team and that is embarrassing. Unfortunately I suspect that there will not be very many such marquee games in the future once those already scheduled are played because I think the Big Boys are tired of playing the G5 and just as the MAC frowns on way games at FCS schools, I suspect there are not going to be a many power conference schools scheduling any future road games against the G5.

(09-17-2014 09:36 PM)T-Town Wrote:  

(09-17-2014 11:07 AM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  Stupid knock on us. We haven't slipped to the depths of MAC attendance in a long time. Always in the top half. Are usually above 20k per year. Yea it's not great, but not Miami or EMU either.
OSU and Michigan didn't play when we played Mizzou so ours can't be blamed on the O$U or scUM fans. The other "option" was high school football. Something kids and parents are obligated to attend. No question we sell out for Mizzou if Kenton fans attend along with our many recruits and parents that were busy early that Saturday afternoon.

Hack's point about UT-Mizzou attendance is valid. Although UT did beat the Bearcats and Navy at home and has taken care of BG for a while now, over the past several years UT still hasn't been winning enough of the marquee games to grab the interest of the band wagon folks. However, regardless of the excuses, the fact remains that UT did NOT sell out for a home game with a visiting ranked SEC team and that is embarrassing. Unfortunately I suspect that there will not be very many such marquee games in the future once those already scheduled are played because I think the Big Boys are tired of playing the G5 and just as the MAC frowns on way games at FCS schools, I suspect there are not going to be a many power conference schools scheduling any future road games against the G5.

At least not any they perceive as possibly losing. Had an AD tell me one time as his team was about to get beat, "Hey, I scheduled those guys when they were bad."

Quote:Hack's point about UT-Mizzou attendance is valid. Although UT did beat the Bearcats and Navy at home and has taken care of BG for a while now, over the past several years UT still hasn't been winning enough of the marquee games to grab the interest of the band wagon folks. However, regardless of the excuses, the fact remains that UT did NOT sell out for a home game with a visiting ranked SEC team and that is embarrassing. Unfortunately I suspect that there will not be very many such marquee games in the future once those already scheduled are played because I think the Big Boys are tired of playing the G5 and just as the MAC frowns on way games at FCS schools, I suspect there are not going to be a many power conference schools scheduling any future road games against the G5.

Sadly, I think you are right.

But, as the money grab escalates in coming years, I wonder whether the P5 will begin to turn on itself. There are a good number of programs in those conferences that, year-in and year-out, do not "compete for a national championship." Heck, I can think of three Big Ten schools right off the top of my head. So, I wonder if, in the not too distant future, the P5 will want to be shedding some of those programs and consolidating the POWER and the MONEY even more. This would lead to more conference realignments and maybe some, new, stronger regional conferences than, say, the MAC.

This might not be so bad. OK, yes, it is bad--it is bad now, but what are you going to do about it? I remember when I was a kid watching a "stock car" (NASCAR) race with my dad and commenting on the race for the lead. My dad said, "That isn't the only race going on. Look at the race for 5th place, the race for 8th place, etc." That gave me a whole new perspective on stock car racing.

So, the Big Money conferences want to form an exclusive club--THE race for the lead. Fine. Let 'em, and screw 'em. I won't watch them on TV. I will not visit their stadiums. I will not discuss them publicly. I will go out of my way to sidestep anything to do with them. If they will not deal fairly and equitably with our non-P5 program I really don't give 5 's about them. They are not the only race on the track.

And, furthermore, to hell with "TV" athletics. There is nothing like being a part of a live event, and that includes athletics.

This evening 13ABC had a report on something called the "Lucas County Health Assessment" which revealed that 70% of people in Lucas County fall into the area of being obese or overweight. So, Lucas County football fans, do your heart a favor and turn off the TV, get off your butt and get out and support your local team! LUCAS CO. HEALTH ASSESSMENT

Turn off P5 TV!

A university of near 20k in a populated area of nearly 1/2 million, relying on bandwagon fans to fill a small stadium.

smh.

(09-17-2014 10:10 PM)Toledo Football 1st Wrote:  This evening 13ABC had a report on something called the "Lucas County Health Assessment" which revealed that 70% of people in Lucas County fall into the area of being obese or overweight.

Our local police force must get paid by the pound. It's sad what I see walking around in blue.

(09-17-2014 07:45 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  No matter who, it's probably a bad idea to alienate folks after just three games.

If it's the media or Elton specifically, who cares.

All I can say is that the fans don't think anything of the sort. I don't think there's even been one mention of it on azz.com.

It certainly didn't need a whole article IMO.