I think 9-3 or 10-2 is still possible. We have played the best two teams on the schedule, except for NIU. The MAC goes through them again. Even if we lose another one of these next two, we will probably be 4-1 going to NIU.

QUOTE this thread. We have the best running game in the MAC. A pretty darn good passing game. And a defense that will drill the MAC's running game and get a lot more pressure on their QB's. Sure teams will pass for 400 yards but if we are winning 48-24 I don't care.

Campbell is the right guy. I'm sticking to it. Ya'll can dig his staff but as a HC I want him. I like this team. Our guys are mad. We want this conference title.

(09-14-2014 01:26 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  I think 9-3 or 10-2 is still possible. We have played the best two teams on the schedule, except for NIU. The MAC goes through them again. Even if we lose another one of these next two, we will probably be 4-1 going to NIU.

QUOTE this thread. We have the best running game in the MAC. A pretty darn good passing game. And a defense that will drill the MAC's running game and get a lot more pressure on their QB's. Sure teams will pass for 400 yards but if we are winning 48-24 I don't care.

Campbell is the right guy. I'm sticking to it. Ya'll can dig his staff but as a HC I want him. I like this team. Our guys are mad. We want this conference title.

I hope you're right. Personally, I was very lukewarm to the Campbell hire--thought he was given the keys to an FBS program too soon in his career when more experienced head coaches would have loved to get this job. So far, we don't have much to show for it--but I'm willing to see how the next game goes. The MAC is still up for grabs--but it becomes less so if we lose to Ball State. I thought the Cincy game was going to be a big one for us, but that loss means very little in the overall season...gotta start the MAC season with a convincing win this Saturday.

(09-14-2014 01:26 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  I think 9-3 or 10-2 is still possible. We have played the best two teams on the schedule, except for NIU. The MAC goes through them again. Even if we lose another one of these next two, we will probably be 4-1 going to NIU.

QUOTE this thread. We have the best running game in the MAC. A pretty darn good passing game. And a defense that will drill the MAC's running game and get a lot more pressure on their QB's. Sure teams will pass for 400 yards but if we are winning 48-24 I don't care.

Campbell is the right guy. I'm sticking to it. Ya'll can dig his staff but as a HC I want him. I like this team. Our guys are mad. We want this conference title.

I watched Iowa State and BG yesterday, both those games will be very tough to win. I am glad BG is in the Glassbowl

(09-14-2014 01:26 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  I think 9-3 or 10-2 is still possible. We have played the best two teams on the schedule, except for NIU. The MAC goes through them again. Even if we lose another one of these next two, we will probably be 4-1 going to NIU.

QUOTE this thread. We have the best running game in the MAC. A pretty darn good passing game. And a defense that will drill the MAC's running game and get a lot more pressure on their QB's. Sure teams will pass for 400 yards but if we are winning 48-24 I don't care.

Campbell is the right guy. I'm sticking to it. Ya'll can dig his staff but as a HC I want him. I like this team. Our guys are mad. We want this conference title.

I hope you're right, but the team has to prove it. They haven't come close to proving anything under Campbell so far. They have proven that they are the third best team in the MAC West. If those are the expectations, then the team is in a bad position.

But if everything you said in your post is true, then this team should have no problem rolling through the MAC. Similar things have been said and posted by UT fans during other seasons in Campbell and Beckman's tenures. We have seen the results which is why the majority of fans are in bad moods after back-to-back dominating losses.

This is why I put it away for a day.

Any team that Toledo faces will be passing the ball like crazy, but not every team has a Kiel or Mauk. Toledo is real tough against the run. Toledo needs to turn it around against the pass. Enough said.

There are many positives going into week 4.

Woodside is a gamer. UT is OK at QB.

The RBs are deep. Hunt is an incredible talent, but Remy, Jones-Moore and Swanson can get it done. Any idea why Hunt did not return?

Toledo's O-Line dominated Cincinnati's.

The wide-outs did not drop as many balls, and we're real dependable at times. I like Olack on the screen. Any word on Wilcher's injury? He is a real dependable talent.

Toledo almost pulled the game out. Settling for the field goal on the goal line after Woodside's dropped pass stopped the momentum, and gave UC the in they needed.

I agree Toledo needs to show up at game time and stop spotting teams 14-21 points. Toledo will get a win against BSU, then will get it rolling. They have another chance OOC against Iowa State, and now it is time to focus on a MAC West title..

We can still win the MAC, but this won't be a 'special' year with this defense. There is no sure win. The offense can score on anyone, as they've shown.

(09-14-2014 01:26 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  I think 9-3 or 10-2 is still possible. We have played the best two teams on the schedule, except for NIU. The MAC goes through them again. Even if we lose another one of these next two, we will probably be 4-1 going to NIU.

QUOTE this thread. We have the best running game in the MAC. A pretty darn good passing game. And a defense that will drill the MAC's running game and get a lot more pressure on their QB's. Sure teams will pass for 400 yards but if we are winning 48-24 I don't care.

Campbell is the right guy. I'm sticking to it. Ya'll can dig his staff but as a HC I want him. I like this team. Our guys are mad. We want this conference title.

If we win up to Iowa St and then pull off the upset there then yes I may jump on the 9-3 or 10-2 bandwagon.

(09-14-2014 01:54 PM)PTLROCK Wrote:  Any idea why Hunt did not return?

I'm still trying to figure this out. In the post-game presser, Coach got asked the incredibly probing question of "Is Kareem ok?" to which he responded "yeah". That told us a lot.

There was also a question about someone else (couldn't make out a name) and something about a wrist injury. Coach said that player went back in and played the rest of the game, so is ok.

I like our players as they seem to be good students and citizens as well as talented athletes and I'll credit Campbell with that. I do think we need to be playing for and winning a MACC soon. Our offense seems to be good enough to win a lot of games. I'm hoping the defense does some things differently for the remainder of our schedule. I may not understand defensive systems, but it just seems to me that if you tell your db's that they're not good enough to cover the receivers that they will live down to your expectations. Even if you're in zone d you need to cover somebody. Hell, I could make sure the receiver doesn't get behind me; all I need to do is climb up in the end zone stands which is practically what we're doing. I understand not wanting to give up the big play, but if you're going to give your opponent the red zone, you need to hold them to field goals at worse. I'd rather we play the receiver tight and if we get burned, then adjust. There's nothing wrong with respecting your opponent but there's a whole lot wrong with fearing him. As has been mentioned, we don't seem to come out fired up to begin a game. I'm okay with the philosophy of keeping an even keel, but then when you face an opponent that you're clearly better than, you need to come out and smack them in the mouth. Yes, that is in reference to the Akron game last year. They are an improved team, but we had no business losing that game. We're good enough to win out but we need to play near-perfect against the good teams and at least good against the rest.

(09-14-2014 03:31 PM)northcoastRocket Wrote:  There was also a question about someone else (couldn't make out a name) and something about a wrist injury. Coach said that player went back in and played the rest of the game, so is ok.

I think they might have been talking about Zo. He hurt his wrist on a dive out of bounds, and went out of the game for a play, then came back in.

(09-14-2014 01:26 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  I think 9-3 or 10-2 is still possible. We have played the best two teams on the schedule, except for NIU. The MAC goes through them again. Even if we lose another one of these next two, we will probably be 4-1 going to NIU.

QUOTE this thread. We have the best running game in the MAC. A pretty darn good passing game. And a defense that will drill the MAC's running game and get a lot more pressure on their QB's. Sure teams will pass for 400 yards but if we are winning 48-24 I don't care.

Campbell is the right guy. I'm sticking to it. Ya'll can dig his staff but as a HC I want him. I like this team. Our guys are mad. We want this conference title.

No, I'm in agreement.

(09-14-2014 01:26 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  I think 9-3 or 10-2 is still possible. We have played the best two teams on the schedule, except for NIU. The MAC goes through them again. Even if we lose another one of these next two, we will probably be 4-1 going to NIU.

QUOTE this thread. We have the best running game in the MAC. A pretty darn good passing game. And a defense that will drill the MAC's running game and get a lot more pressure on their QB's. Sure teams will pass for 400 yards but if we are winning 48-24 I don't care.

Campbell is the right guy. I'm sticking to it. Ya'll can dig his staff but as a HC I want him. I like this team. Our guys are mad. We want this conference title.

I don't mind the optimism.

Logan Woodside is a good QB. We all liked him as a backup last season. And he will be a competent starter. I thin an improvement from Owens. And maybe on par with Ely even.

But the rest of the pieces don't seem to be there. So many injuries. So many holes in the defense. Offensive miscues like drops can't be remedied and that would make big difference.

I loved the 3rd quarter of the UC game but it is not at all inconceivable UC got a little complacent with a staggering lead and the feeling they were invincible on offense.

(09-14-2014 01:26 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  I think 9-3 or 10-2 is still possible. We have played the best two teams on the schedule, except for NIU. The MAC goes through them again. Even if we lose another one of these next two, we will probably be 4-1 going to NIU.

QUOTE this thread. We have the best running game in the MAC. A pretty darn good passing game. And a defense that will drill the MAC's running game and get a lot more pressure on their QB's. Sure teams will pass for 400 yards but if we are winning 48-24 I don't care.

Campbell is the right guy. I'm sticking to it. Ya'll can dig his staff but as a HC I want him. I like this team. Our guys are mad. We want this conference title.

Of course 9-3 or 10-2 are still possible, but I am thinking that 8-4 is more likely than 9-3 and 7-5 is more likely than 10-2.

I thought that Campbell was the right hire when Beckman left and I still feel that way. He has done a lot of good things, but there are still a few things that need to been taken care of in order for the Rockets to get back where we all would like to see them.

(09-14-2014 01:26 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  I think 9-3 or 10-2 is still possible. We have played the best two teams on the schedule, except for NIU. The MAC goes through them again. Even if we lose another one of these next two, we will probably be 4-1 going to NIU.

QUOTE this thread. We have the best running game in the MAC. A pretty darn good passing game. And a defense that will drill the MAC's running game and get a lot more pressure on their QB's. Sure teams will pass for 400 yards but if we are winning 48-24 I don't care.

Campbell is the right guy. I'm sticking to it. Ya'll can dig his staff but as a HC I want him. I like this team. Our guys are mad. We want this conference title.

Dream on! Campbell is Amstutz lite.
What makes you think we can beat any other West division team other than EMU.
We get outcoached every game. Come out flat and dig a hole, with a defense that couldn't stop a HS passing attack. Poor execution, lack discipline, unmotivated at the start of the game.
All led by the second highest paid coach in the MAC.
We deserve better

(09-15-2014 03:36 PM)magoo Wrote:  

(09-14-2014 01:26 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  I think 9-3 or 10-2 is still possible. We have played the best two teams on the schedule, except for NIU. The MAC goes through them again. Even if we lose another one of these next two, we will probably be 4-1 going to NIU.

QUOTE this thread. We have the best running game in the MAC. A pretty darn good passing game. And a defense that will drill the MAC's running game and get a lot more pressure on their QB's. Sure teams will pass for 400 yards but if we are winning 48-24 I don't care.

Campbell is the right guy. I'm sticking to it. Ya'll can dig his staff but as a HC I want him. I like this team. Our guys are mad. We want this conference title.

Dream on! Campbell is Amstutz lite.
What makes you think we can beat any other West division team other than EMU.
We get outcoached every game. Come out flat and dig a hole, with a defense that couldn't stop a HS passing attack. Poor execution, lack discipline, unmotivated at the start of the game.
All led by the second highest paid coach in the MAC.
We deserve better

I'm with you. This team shows an incredible lack of discipline. They also can't seem to get it together for an extended period. That will kill us in almost every game we play.

(09-15-2014 03:36 PM)magoo Wrote:  

(09-14-2014 01:26 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  I think 9-3 or 10-2 is still possible. We have played the best two teams on the schedule, except for NIU. The MAC goes through them again. Even if we lose another one of these next two, we will probably be 4-1 going to NIU.

QUOTE this thread. We have the best running game in the MAC. A pretty darn good passing game. And a defense that will drill the MAC's running game and get a lot more pressure on their QB's. Sure teams will pass for 400 yards but if we are winning 48-24 I don't care.

Campbell is the right guy. I'm sticking to it. Ya'll can dig his staff but as a HC I want him. I like this team. Our guys are mad. We want this conference title.

Dream on! Campbell is Amstutz lite.
What makes you think we can beat any other West division team other than EMU.
We get outcoached every game. Come out flat and dig a hole, with a defense that couldn't stop a HS passing attack. Poor execution, lack discipline, unmotivated at the start of the game.
All led by the second highest paid coach in the MAC.
We deserve better

Really,
2007 points allowed per game 39.2 sacks by 9
2008 points allowed per game 31.8 sacks by 10
2012 points allowed per game 28.4 sacks by 24
2013 points allowed per game 28.6 sacks by 34

(09-15-2014 03:54 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  

(09-15-2014 03:36 PM)magoo Wrote:  

(09-14-2014 01:26 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  I think 9-3 or 10-2 is still possible. We have played the best two teams on the schedule, except for NIU. The MAC goes through them again. Even if we lose another one of these next two, we will probably be 4-1 going to NIU.

QUOTE this thread. We have the best running game in the MAC. A pretty darn good passing game. And a defense that will drill the MAC's running game and get a lot more pressure on their QB's. Sure teams will pass for 400 yards but if we are winning 48-24 I don't care.

Campbell is the right guy. I'm sticking to it. Ya'll can dig his staff but as a HC I want him. I like this team. Our guys are mad. We want this conference title.

Dream on! Campbell is Amstutz lite.
What makes you think we can beat any other West division team other than EMU.
We get outcoached every game. Come out flat and dig a hole, with a defense that couldn't stop a HS passing attack. Poor execution, lack discipline, unmotivated at the start of the game.
All led by the second highest paid coach in the MAC.
We deserve better

Really,
2007 points allowed per game 39.2 sacks by 9
2008 points allowed per game 31.8 sacks by 10
2012 points allowed per game 28.4 sacks by 24
2013 points allowed per game 28.6 sacks by 34

2014 points allowed per game 39.0
51.5 vs. division 1

(09-15-2014 04:14 PM)magoo Wrote:  

(09-15-2014 03:54 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  

(09-15-2014 03:36 PM)magoo Wrote:  

(09-14-2014 01:26 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  I think 9-3 or 10-2 is still possible. We have played the best two teams on the schedule, except for NIU. The MAC goes through them again. Even if we lose another one of these next two, we will probably be 4-1 going to NIU.

QUOTE this thread. We have the best running game in the MAC. A pretty darn good passing game. And a defense that will drill the MAC's running game and get a lot more pressure on their QB's. Sure teams will pass for 400 yards but if we are winning 48-24 I don't care.

Campbell is the right guy. I'm sticking to it. Ya'll can dig his staff but as a HC I want him. I like this team. Our guys are mad. We want this conference title.

Dream on! Campbell is Amstutz lite.
What makes you think we can beat any other West division team other than EMU.
We get outcoached every game. Come out flat and dig a hole, with a defense that couldn't stop a HS passing attack. Poor execution, lack discipline, unmotivated at the start of the game.
All led by the second highest paid coach in the MAC.
We deserve better

Really,
2007 points allowed per game 39.2 sacks by 9
2008 points allowed per game 31.8 sacks by 10
2012 points allowed per game 28.4 sacks by 24
2013 points allowed per game 28.6 sacks by 34

2014 points allowed per game 39.0
51.5 vs. division 1

2004 avg points allowed after 1st two division opponents= 63
Won the Mac

Quote:Really,
2007 points allowed per game 39.2 sacks by 9
2008 points allowed per game 31.8 sacks by 10
2012 points allowed per game 28.4 sacks by 24
2013 points allowed per game 28.6 sacks by 34

Wins. That's all that matters. We didn't even do that enough in 2013 to get invited to lose the Potato Bowl...

From Mark Meyers site, some comments from the coach at today's Media Session