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(09-11-2014 06:15 PM)Dirty Ernie Wrote:  Lots of weird stuff goes down at that Walmart. My wife and I witnessed a very large many run right out of the store with a large flat screen. A woman manager was following him out saying stop. He put the TV in the back of a pickup and drove away. A security was behind the woman manager saying, don't try to stop him, just get the license number.

I know they have video in the parking lot there. If the video showed the guy putting the TV in the truck, and she had the license, and store computer records didn't show a purchase at the time, would that be sufficient for a prosecution?

Are any other schools recruiting this guy? That kind of speed while holding a large flat screen is impressive. While our guys were unsure of themselves, these guys showed great confidence and teamwork and worked well as a unit.

On the other hand some of those female managers at Walmart are fat and slow and lack the closing speed needed to sack a fleeing suspect.

Quote:Are any other schools recruiting this guy? That kind of speed while holding a large flat screen is impressive.

Very true. With a wider grip, your balance is more susceptible to err and being pushed over. Well, that's what the rowing is for with the equal balance on both sides. And, even IF they played a little game of "what would happen?" with the now non-player -- geez -- it shows us something how we can't even execute Fictionally, Right? :)

Show us: "What would happen IF we did run all out? This security isn't even Nicholls State...!"

In all seriousness, I am not vying for them to be all good with our team after all that. The biggest red flag is not bringing it up to Fleck afterward and saying "Hey, we're idiots, we we were goofing around, but with Morgan actually half-way executing (which we can't do but you teach us not to? - lol) -- we just had to book."

Sigh. Beat Idaho. By more than 10 than NIU did at the final end last year.

And give them "Vandals" the Walmart receipt!

Now That would be sweet.

Now she's covering the local prep scene! What's David Drew doing these days anyway? Idaho Crime Beat?

Return of the Mack

(09-18-2014 01:16 PM)Hiller4Hyz09 Wrote:  Now she's covering the local prep scene! What's David Drew doing these days anyway? Idaho Crime Beat?

Return of the Mack

Julie's been chomping at the bit for a story with NFL like controversy and she's managed to dredge one up.

This has the same finger prints as the Dan Hoff bs. Parent doesn't like coach, parent raises stink, he said she said is printed as hard evidence by the pot stirring media.

This coach will say, "f()ck it I don't ended this agrivation," a and they'll be left to hire the first person who can pass a background check.

(09-18-2014 01:30 PM)Chipdip2 Wrote:  

(09-18-2014 01:16 PM)Hiller4Hyz09 Wrote:  Now she's covering the local prep scene! What's David Drew doing these days anyway? Idaho Crime Beat?

Return of the Mack

Julie's been chomping at the bit for a story with NFL like controversy and she's managed to dredge one up.

This has the same finger prints as the Dan Hoff bs. Parent doesn't like coach, parent raises stink, he said she said is printed as hard evidence by the pot stirring media.

This coach will say, "f()ck it I don't ended this agrivation," a and they'll be left to hire the first person who can pass a background check.

Correct Dip. I have known coach Hoff since I had the priviledge of having him as a coach at summer camp a few years in HS. Everytime we played his Mattawan teams the next couple years after that, he always made a point to look me up before and after games and genuinely cared about how things were going for me.

His first "issue" happened a few years after my time. But its basically Little Johnny not liking that he didn't play enough or that coach yelled at him. That was 25 years ago. Its 1000% worse now.

Many of my friends are HS coaches and it amazes me how much garbage they have to deal with when daddy doesn't realize that his son cant hit or isn't a good enough pitcher. Or that Little Timmy is the 4th string RB for a reason and isn't going to carry the ball on Friday night. So they all go home and cry to mommy and daddy and then the coach gets an earful and the AD gets an earful. All the while, the coach is trying to put the best team on the field because he could play Little Timmy, but then they would lose every game and the same parents would be pissed about wins and losses.

Perspective. For some reason our society has lost it and lost it badly.

(09-18-2014 03:09 PM)Keith Stoner Wrote:  Eh.. it goes both ways. I was part of some programs where the Coach went a bit overboard. It is one thing when Little Johnny doesn't play enough because he doesn't have the skills, its another when the Coach blames it on the fact that he is "retarded and rides the short bus" according to my freshman basketball coach who is well known in the youth coaching business.

Have you even met Dan Hoff before?

The days of teachers coaching sports is slowly coming to an end.

Willie the Janitor, Mr. Smith the part time teachers aid, and Touchdown Billy, the former HS star and perpetually unemployed factory worker are the future of HS Coaching.

The time needed simply is more than many teachers can afford to give up. Between grading papers, endless mandated paperwork, and time away from their own family it just isn't worth it. It's hard enough trying to please perpetually skeptical parents that their child has academic limitations, without having to explain to them that their child may not get recruited by Brady Hoke.

The money is insignificant when you break it down into hours spent, but for Janitor Willie, Mr. Smith the part time teachers aid, and perpetually unemployed Billy the former HS star it's serious cash. Of course all of these will put their kids in star positions and will be accused of nepotism and they'll eventually be dismissed for a DUI, a drug offense, or fighting with a police officer.

The parents will be outraged and demand the superintendent hire Al Fraccass sp from Brother Rice, or at least Mr. Johnson the 7th grade football coach. But when Al and Mr. Johnson say they're not interested, and Willie, Billy, and Mr. Smith can't pass a background check they'll be left scratching their heads wondering why nobody wants to coach their amazing children at their amazingly elite high school.

(09-18-2014 02:49 PM)WheresWaldo42 Wrote:  

(09-18-2014 01:30 PM)Chipdip2 Wrote:  

(09-18-2014 01:16 PM)Hiller4Hyz09 Wrote:  Now she's covering the local prep scene! What's David Drew doing these days anyway? Idaho Crime Beat?

Return of the Mack

Julie's been chomping at the bit for a story with NFL like controversy and she's managed to dredge one up.

This has the same finger prints as the Dan Hoff bs. Parent doesn't like coach, parent raises stink, he said she said is printed as hard evidence by the pot stirring media.

This coach will say, "f()ck it I don't ended this agrivation," a and they'll be left to hire the first person who can pass a background check.

Correct Dip. I have known coach Hoff since I had the priviledge of having him as a coach at summer camp a few years in HS. Everytime we played his Mattawan teams the next couple years after that, he always made a point to look me up before and after games and genuinely cared about how things were going for me.

His first "issue" happened a few years after my time. But its basically Little Johnny not liking that he didn't play enough or that coach yelled at him. That was 25 years ago. Its 1000% worse now.

Many of my friends are HS coaches and it amazes me how much garbage they have to deal with when daddy doesn't realize that his son cant hit or isn't a good enough pitcher. Or that Little Timmy is the 4th string RB for a reason and isn't going to carry the ball on Friday night. So they all go home and cry to mommy and daddy and then the coach gets an earful and the AD gets an earful. All the while, the coach is trying to put the best team on the field because he could play Little Timmy, but then they would lose every game and the same parents would be pissed about wins and losses.

Perspective. For some reason our society has lost it and lost it badly.

NAIL HIT ON THE HEAD. I speak as a coach of 22 years and an athletic director of 16 years. It is night and day different than it was 20,30,40 years ago. Today everyone is an A student, All particpants get a trophy and participation is more important than winning. It is killing high school sports and is carrying over into colleges to. Recently heard that President Dunn gets dozens of calls a week sometime more from parents asking about their kids, foof, grades, classes, etc etc, Back in the day college was for growing up, learning self responsibility and leaving home. Not so much so today. I am continualy amazed by younger friends whose children move back in after college. Just saying it's not like it used to be.

(09-18-2014 06:42 PM)Chipdip2 Wrote:  The days of teachers coaching sports is slowly coming to an end.

Willie the Janitor, Mr. Smith the part time teachers aid, and Touchdown Billy, the former HS star and perpetually unemployed factory worker are the future of HS Coaching.

The time needed simply is more than many teachers can afford to give up. Between grading papers, endless mandated paperwork, and time away from their own family it just isn't worth it. It's hard enough trying to please perpetually skeptical parents that their child has academic limitations, without having to explain to them that their child may not get recruited by Brady Hoke.

The money is insignificant when you break it down into hours spent, but for Janitor Willie, Mr. Smith the part time teachers aid, and perpetually unemployed Billy the former HS star it's serious cash. Of course all of these will put their kids in star positions and will be accused of nepotism and they'll eventually be dismissed for a DUI, a drug offense, or fighting with a police officer.

The parents will be outraged and demand the superintendent hire Al Fraccass sp from Brother Rice, or at least Mr. Johnson the 7th grade football coach. But when Al and Mr. Johnson say they're not interested, and Willie, Billy, and Mr. Smith can't pass a background check they'll be left scratching their heads wondering why nobody wants to coach their amazing children at their amazingly elite high school.

Another thing that enters into it is the almighty dollar. I believe in most schools non staff coaches enter at step one of the schedule b ( extra cirricular) and never move up. Where as a coach on staff can move up by steps so that each year they get a small raise. I remember that towards the end of my A.D. years I was encouraged to look outside the staff for coaching openings as it would save the district money. Those coaches rarely had the inter active success with their teams that staff /teacher coaches had. I'm sure that there are exceptions to each side, but it is a different school athletic world that it had been for perhaps 100 years.

The school district I'm at is the fourth largest in the state. We have mostly teacher/coaches. Really refreshing. Like a blast from the past in terms of community feel and values.

It took two DUIs before our legendary bball coach "Billy the local legend" was finally given the ziggy.

Yeah, I can believe in fiscally restrained districts that hiring non-staff is encouraged to save money. It's like anything you outsource, while you save some coin you often give up the quality of workmanship.

Hooterville thing.

(09-18-2014 08:14 PM)DesertBronco Wrote:  Hooterville thing.

No, not really. Seen the same thing with some SMACC coaches and Detroit coaches.

Detroit coaches? Names?

(09-18-2014 09:51 PM)DesertBronco Wrote:  Detroit coaches? Names?

A Warren coach (but not a teacher) was recently charged for child porn. A Romulus FB coach and AD (but wasn't a teacher) was recently canned for dropping the N-bomb too many times. Two of the last three K Central bball coaches were fired for behavior issues, neither were teachers. A women's coach at a local Class A HS was let go a few years back for inappropriate relations with players. He was not a teacher either. There are 300,000 people in metro Kalamazoo. That ain't Hooterville.

Right, let's have names and dates there generalization man.

K Central isn't Detroit, neither is Warren, neither is Romulus. You're caught BS'ing, nothing new here.

(09-18-2014 11:53 PM)DesertBronco Wrote:  Right, let's have names and dates there generalization man.

K Central isn't Detroit, neither is Warren, neither is Romulus. You're caught BS'ing, nothing new here.

Fine, keep parsing words Karl. Anything to keep an argument going, right.

(09-19-2014 12:16 AM)Chipdip2 Wrote:  

(09-18-2014 11:53 PM)DesertBronco Wrote:  Right, let's have names and dates there generalization man.

K Central isn't Detroit, neither is Warren, neither is Romulus. You're caught BS'ing, nothing new here.

Fine, keep parsing words Karl. Anything to keep an argument going, right.

You hate it when you're called out for specifics on your backwoods generalization diatribes.

You can't deliver because you're just a gossip queen. You're money in the off season, you gossip and keep talking about how recruits talk to this guy or that guy, but then the ball kicks off and you and your protégée HJ and his ID's are exposed as complete frauds that don't know anything other than from the perspective of the band or waterboy.

Wow, a 30 word response. That's 26 more than usual. Are your fingers tired?

(09-19-2014 12:23 AM)Chipdip2 Wrote:  Wow, a 30 word response. That's 26 more than usual. Are your fingers tired?

Have any specifics for your "Detroit" claim BS boy?

I'm thinking no...

Because you're BS. Pure and simple. Acer was right about you years ago, he called you out and you whimpered like a baby in the face of adversity.