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RE: O'Leary just cost the AAC a valuable win
(08-31-2014 05:54 AM)Knightbengal Wrote:  
(08-31-2014 04:52 AM)USFRamenu Wrote:  Just an FYI for those whom don't seem to know; There's a major difference between practice and playing in the game live in front of a large crowd. Many players are champions in practice but diminish under the lights and game time pressure.

It's that old "Fight or Flight" instinct. You're either a fighter or a runner. You don't get to chose. The only true fix for it is training and experience. You can train all your life for something and still fail when the real thing happens. Police Officers experience this all the time.

It comes from faulty training. You have to practice as if it's the real thing or you won't perform the way you want when the real thing comes along. That's it in a nut shell. 07-coffee3

Well he was running against the ones for a spell and so was Holman soooo


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Bottom line, those who can do. Those who can't don't.

Switch QB's or do as I've always said, change practice to be loud, up tempo and call in the plays like you would in a real game. Give the young man game time atmosphere and see how he performs. It's the only true way to evaluate. That's why scouts are employed in the first place, to watch these kids in actual games and evaluate their performance in them. 07-coffee3
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RE: O'Leary just cost the AAC a valuable win
Going for it in 4th and goal with a freshman QB tho.
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RE: O'Leary just cost the AAC a valuable win
(08-30-2014 11:03 AM)The Knight Time Wrote:  His awful assessment at QB led us to starting the wrong QB, and playing him, for an entire half of football.

If he starts, this game is not in question. It's a runaway win for UCF.

O'Leary must be held accountable.

coulda shoulda woulda

You can do that til you're blue in the face and when you're done, you are no better. I looked at last year's UC and did it (USF loss, Bridewater's amazing td pass falling down, etc etc etc because UC was THAT close to a chance at winning the AAC and getting another BCS birth)

relax

UCF played tough and could have won.


for the record, your defense giving up a Penn St drive in the final minutes cost you the game....
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RE: O'Leary just cost the AAC a valuable win
(08-31-2014 07:36 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  
(08-30-2014 11:03 AM)The Knight Time Wrote:  His awful assessment at QB led us to starting the wrong QB, and playing him, for an entire half of football.

If he starts, this game is not in question. It's a runaway win for UCF.

O'Leary must be held accountable.

coulda shoulda woulda

You can do that til you're blue in the face and when you're done, you are no better. I looked at last year's UC and did it (USF loss, Bridewater's amazing td pass falling down, etc etc etc because UC was THAT close to a chance at winning the AAC and getting another BCS birth)

relax

UCF played tough and could have won.


for the record, your defense giving up a Penn St drive in the final minutes cost you the game....

The problem is that he had it right. Holman was Bortles successor, then within the last month he changed things around.
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(08-31-2014 07:36 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  [quote='The Knight Time' pid='11047323' dateline='1409414619']
His awful assessment at QB led us to starting the wrong QB, and playing him, for an entire half of football.

If he starts, this game is not in question. It's a runaway win for UCF.

O'Leary must be held accountable.

coulda shoulda woulda

You can do that til you're blue in the face and when you're done, you are no better. I looked at last year's UC and did it (USF loss, Bridewater's amazing td pass falling down, etc etc etc because UC was THAT close to a chance at winning the AAC and getting another BCS birth)



relax

UCF played tough and could have won.


for the record, your defense giving up a Penn St drive in the final minutes cost you the game....

I agree, not holding the last drive and the sketchy safety play is what killed us. The safeties kept biting off on the pump fakes or underneath routes. If that's not corrected before Mizzou, we might be in trouble.
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O'Leary just cost the AAC a valuable win
I'm sure if OLeary saw the film of this game before it started he would have started Holman.

But all he had to go by was how the QBs performed in practice, and none of us were there so all we can do is assume the freshman was better in practice.

OLeary said in pregame he chose the better game manager, so perhaps Holman made too many procedural mistakes in practice.


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RE: O'Leary just cost the AAC a valuable win
Our secondary cost us the game. The QB situation is just more frustrating because it seems like an easy fix that was there for the taking earlier.

But that pass defense...wow...no surprise we want to just talk about QB.
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RE: O'Leary just cost the AAC a valuable win
(08-30-2014 11:03 AM)The Knight Time Wrote:  His awful assessment at QB led us to starting the wrong QB, and playing him, for an entire half of football.

If he starts, this game is not in question. It's a runaway win for UCF.

O'Leary must be held accountable.

I intensely dislike O'Liar but even ppl like me laugh at your football "knowledge". If he goes 0-12 again perhaps you have an argument until then it shows your ignorance.
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(08-30-2014 11:35 AM)Ned Low Wrote:  
(08-30-2014 11:06 AM)TampaKnight Wrote:  It's unfortunate, but it wasn't really in his control.

It's the entire staff involved that share equal blame for this. He gave our presumed starter a chance to make things happen, and it just didn't pan out. Had Pete thrown better, might be a different story. It's why we play the game...

I'm glad Holman is starting, though, after seeing DiNovo's shoddy performance. I think we will run away with the conference title still, but we'll need every win we can get to get to the Access Bowl.

Do you really think that you'll run away with the conference title? You must be sniffing glue this afternoon.

No one will run away with out conference... there's too much parity in the league.

I agree. It's probably up to Cincy, UCF, ECU and quite possibly Temple now.

UCF didn't look like the team some on this board say they are. Very good run defense but for all the praise of the DBs, they gave up 454 yards. That is completely opposite of what was portrayed. Still, UCF doesn't look average or mediocre. They do look good. But no way in Hell was there anything that indicated a team destined to run away with the conference title (other than a week schedule outside of ECU and possibly Temple...since no Cincy and Houston doesn't appear ready).
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A week ago there were posts about how great this guy was supposed to be, and he still may be. I think you guys have your starter going forward and it's not who you expected Live and learn.

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RE: O'Leary just cost the AAC a valuable win
(08-31-2014 10:29 AM)CyberBull Wrote:  
(08-30-2014 11:03 AM)The Knight Time Wrote:  His awful assessment at QB led us to starting the wrong QB, and playing him, for an entire half of football.

If he starts, this game is not in question. It's a runaway win for UCF.

O'Leary must be held accountable.

I intensely dislike O'Liar but even ppl like me laugh at your football "knowledge". If he goes 0-12 again perhaps you have an argument until then it shows your ignorance.

This coming from a guy throwing himself a party because USF's RB had a big game against an awful 1-AA defense.

Ok, bud.
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(08-31-2014 12:59 PM)The Knight Time Wrote:  
(08-31-2014 10:29 AM)CyberBull Wrote:  
(08-30-2014 11:03 AM)The Knight Time Wrote:  His awful assessment at QB led us to starting the wrong QB, and playing him, for an entire half of football.

If he starts, this game is not in question. It's a runaway win for UCF.

O'Leary must be held accountable.

I intensely dislike O'Liar but even ppl like me laugh at your football "knowledge". If he goes 0-12 again perhaps you have an argument until then it shows your ignorance.

This coming from a guy throwing himself a party because USF's RB had a big game against an awful 1-AA defense.

Ok, bud.

Is that the best you can do to try an redirect the idiocy of honestly advocating to fire your coach? Again, I dislike the guy and know many UCF fans who feel the same but there is no disputing that he has won. SOME UCF fans like you are in for a rude awakening this season.
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(08-31-2014 07:27 PM)CyberBull Wrote:  
(08-31-2014 12:59 PM)The Knight Time Wrote:  
(08-31-2014 10:29 AM)CyberBull Wrote:  
(08-30-2014 11:03 AM)The Knight Time Wrote:  His awful assessment at QB led us to starting the wrong QB, and playing him, for an entire half of football.

If he starts, this game is not in question. It's a runaway win for UCF.

O'Leary must be held accountable.

I intensely dislike O'Liar but even ppl like me laugh at your football "knowledge". If he goes 0-12 again perhaps you have an argument until then it shows your ignorance.

This coming from a guy throwing himself a party because USF's RB had a big game against an awful 1-AA defense.

Ok, bud.

Is that the best you can do to try an redirect the idiocy of honestly advocating to fire your coach? Again, I dislike the guy and know many UCF fans who feel the same but there is no disputing that he has won. SOME UCF fans like you are in for a rude awakening this season.

Are you saying this just to make yourself feel better about nearly losing to yet another awful 1-AA team?

Anyone with a brain saw two very different programs/teams on Saturday. UCF had a team that was able to push around a Big 10 team and ended up losing simply because we had the wrong QB in the game for 30 minutes. What exactly is going to be the "rude awakening"? Beyond Missouri I still don't see anyone else on our schedule that we could lose to.

USF, meanwhile, was taken to task by a mediocre 1-AA team that scored 31 points.

It's clear that you're just projecting at this point.
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(08-30-2014 11:49 AM)MedKnight Wrote:  You can't entirely blame O'leary.

Holman looked so good in the game, but man you gotta separate yourself from the competition in practice...

Yes I can.
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(08-30-2014 11:03 AM)The Knight Time Wrote:  His awful assessment at QB led us to starting the wrong QB, and playing him, for an entire half of football.

If he starts, this game is not in question. It's a runaway win for UCF.

O'Leary must be held accountable.

Sometimes a QB looks better in practice and sometimes they look better in live game situations. My guess is that DiNovo has looked better than Holman in practice. The commentators emphasized that O'Leary stated how DiNovo was a game manager and that Holman had shown some inaccuracy issues. Obviously, on gameday DiNovo underperformed and Holman rose to the occasion.

There is no way to make that assessment in practice. You MUST have game play to determine who is the better gamer. With that said, if Holman doesn't start at Missouri, THEN you can start calling for O'Leary's head.
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(09-01-2014 02:01 AM)The Knight Time Wrote:  
(08-31-2014 07:27 PM)CyberBull Wrote:  
(08-31-2014 12:59 PM)The Knight Time Wrote:  
(08-31-2014 10:29 AM)CyberBull Wrote:  
(08-30-2014 11:03 AM)The Knight Time Wrote:  His awful assessment at QB led us to starting the wrong QB, and playing him, for an entire half of football.

If he starts, this game is not in question. It's a runaway win for UCF.

O'Leary must be held accountable.

I intensely dislike O'Liar but even ppl like me laugh at your football "knowledge". If he goes 0-12 again perhaps you have an argument until then it shows your ignorance.

This coming from a guy throwing himself a party because USF's RB had a big game against an awful 1-AA defense.

Ok, bud.

Is that the best you can do to try an redirect the idiocy of honestly advocating to fire your coach? Again, I dislike the guy and know many UCF fans who feel the same but there is no disputing that he has won. SOME UCF fans like you are in for a rude awakening this season.

Are you saying this just to make yourself feel better about nearly losing to yet another awful 1-AA team?

Anyone with a brain saw two very different programs/teams on Saturday. UCF had a team that was able to push around a Big 10 team and ended up losing simply because we had the wrong QB in the game for 30 minutes. What exactly is going to be the "rude awakening"? Beyond Missouri I still don't see anyone else on our schedule that we could lose to.

USF, meanwhile, was taken to task by a mediocre 1-AA team that scored 31 points.

It's clear that you're just projecting at this point.

Looks like southtampaknight/futbol guru/sir galahad got herself another handle....or recruiting new members to his Troll Army. This thread has nothing to do with USF but rather your absurd comment that O'Leary should get fired. Thanks for the laughs.....guru.

I do laugh at your "push around" comment since last time I checked your QB didn't play defense and Penn State was able to move the ball at will during it's game winning drive and left a lot of points on the field b/c this was their first game with a new coach, scheme and still dealing with scholarship bans from probation.



BTW, UCF was lucky to be in the game considering how many points a depleted PSU left on a the field.
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(09-01-2014 02:43 PM)CyberBull Wrote:  
(09-01-2014 02:01 AM)The Knight Time Wrote:  
(08-31-2014 07:27 PM)CyberBull Wrote:  
(08-31-2014 12:59 PM)The Knight Time Wrote:  
(08-31-2014 10:29 AM)CyberBull Wrote:  I intensely dislike O'Liar but even ppl like me laugh at your football "knowledge". If he goes 0-12 again perhaps you have an argument until then it shows your ignorance.

This coming from a guy throwing himself a party because USF's RB had a big game against an awful 1-AA defense.

Ok, bud.

Is that the best you can do to try an redirect the idiocy of honestly advocating to fire your coach? Again, I dislike the guy and know many UCF fans who feel the same but there is no disputing that he has won. SOME UCF fans like you are in for a rude awakening this season.

Are you saying this just to make yourself feel better about nearly losing to yet another awful 1-AA team?

Anyone with a brain saw two very different programs/teams on Saturday. UCF had a team that was able to push around a Big 10 team and ended up losing simply because we had the wrong QB in the game for 30 minutes. What exactly is going to be the "rude awakening"? Beyond Missouri I still don't see anyone else on our schedule that we could lose to.

USF, meanwhile, was taken to task by a mediocre 1-AA team that scored 31 points.

It's clear that you're just projecting at this point.

Looks like southtampaknight/futbol guru/sir galahad got herself another handle....or recruiting new members to his Troll Army. This thread has nothing to do with USF but rather your absurd comment that O'Leary should get fired. Thanks for the laughs.....guru.

I do laugh at your "push around" comment since last time I checked your QB didn't play defense and Penn State was able to move the ball at will during it's game winning drive and left a lot of points on the field b/c this was their first game with a new coach, scheme and still dealing with scholarship bans from probation.



BTW, UCF was lucky to be in the game considering how many points a depleted PSU left on a the field.

And we didn't leave two touchdowns on the field because of inexperience? The whole game was about inexperience. You drive me nuts with sideways compliments. We were in the game because overall our defense played well despite 7 straight series with 3 and outs


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