(09-02-2014 09:04 AM)bullitt_60 Wrote:  

(09-01-2014 08:43 PM)AppAttack Wrote:  It has to be put on the coach. You don't kick a FG on 4th and 2 when you have a gassed defense a TD still beats you. Pick up the first down and it's over. Even if you fail to pick up the first down, you lose by 4 or in OT instead of by 1. There's no difference. No reason to kick a FG, it does nothing.

It was the right call. You force them to score a touchdown and, if they do, you are still within a field goal of winning.

IMO right call next year maybe and if you did not see the previous drive, not this one. Plus the back up looked fast as heck. Opinions, neither is fact. FIDO

(09-01-2014 02:59 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  I wouldn't read too much into this game and what it might mean for the rest of your season. We had a very similar final minutes loss to Purdue to open the 2011 season and we went 2-10, you'll also have to deal with your depth disadvantage compounding with each week considering you'll be undermanned in every game the rest of the way apart from SSU and App.

I'm not saying you guys will or won't be better than advertised, I'd just be hesitant to try to declare this game some sort of barometer.

Have fun laying the wood to SSU and go take it to the Jackets, it would certainly appear you guys can give them a game, if you pull it off look forward to congratulatory drinks from Dawg fans anywhere you go out that night, that's how it went for us in 2012.

So much this. I am cautiously optimistic about what we saw Saturday, but really, the schedule makes this a tough season for the fans and the armchair quarterbacks/coaches. (me at least, anyway.)

First NC State (tough out of conference) then Savannah State (usually NOT tough out of conference) then GaTech (tough out of conference.) THEN we get to South Alabama. I don't see how we can get any real feel for what kind of team we have until September is almost done, and we start playing teams not so wildly disparate from our talent level.

I really have disliked our schedule from jump street. While we avoid some of the tougher Sun Belt teams, I hate the home/away construction of it. Only have 5 home games. Three calendar weeks between SavSt and AppSt home games. A full f---ing month between Troy and ULM home games. Some people might say "oh, we have FOUR weeks to prepare for conference action, what are you complaining about?" I don't call the up/down/up of those first three games a "preparation." I call it "make due till we get there."

If other Southern fans don't agree with me, I don't care.

It was a loss because NC State was able to outlast you with their depth. It was pretty easy to see.

It isn't a good measuring stick for deciding how the rest of the season will go. Hell, the gap in talent etc with other SBC teams is narrower than it was with NCSU.

(09-02-2014 12:02 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  It was a loss because NC State was able to outlast you with their depth. It was pretty easy to see.

It isn't a good measuring stick for deciding how the rest of the season will go. Hell, the gap in talent etc with other SBC teams is narrower than it was with NCSU.

So what happened to them beating us by 40 with their 3rd stringers?

(09-02-2014 03:50 PM)The Black Flag Wrote:  

(09-02-2014 12:02 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  It was a loss because NC State was able to outlast you with their depth. It was pretty easy to see.

It isn't a good measuring stick for deciding how the rest of the season will go. Hell, the gap in talent etc with other SBC teams is narrower than it was with NCSU.

So what happened to them beating us by 40 with their 3rd stringers?

I was pleasantly surprised.

I was also on the rebound year train of thought for NCSU.

I wouldn't gloat though, it isn't as if you looked good.

(09-02-2014 04:39 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(09-02-2014 03:50 PM)The Black Flag Wrote:  

(09-02-2014 12:02 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  It was a loss because NC State was able to outlast you with their depth. It was pretty easy to see.

It isn't a good measuring stick for deciding how the rest of the season will go. Hell, the gap in talent etc with other SBC teams is narrower than it was with NCSU.

So what happened to them beating us by 40 with their 3rd stringers?

I was pleasantly surprised.

I was also on the rebound year train of thought for NCSU.

I wouldn't gloat though, it isn't as if you looked good.

I guess that explains your prediction that we beat Sav St by 14. I'd throw $50k on that game if someone gave me a 14 point line, lol

The only reason I say that is because that was an emotional game for your kids and you are a little dinged up.

The explanation is we scored fewer points than they did. Some would say it was a moral victory since they were heavy favorites but I say we made some mistakes that cost us now it's time to move on.

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(09-02-2014 04:39 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(09-02-2014 03:50 PM)The Black Flag Wrote:  

(09-02-2014 12:02 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  It was a loss because NC State was able to outlast you with their depth. It was pretty easy to see.

It isn't a good measuring stick for deciding how the rest of the season will go. Hell, the gap in talent etc with other SBC teams is narrower than it was with NCSU.

So what happened to them beating us by 40 with their 3rd stringers?

I was pleasantly surprised.

I was also on the rebound year train of thought for NCSU.

I wouldn't gloat though, it isn't as if you looked good.

He's not gloating, just pointing out how wrong you were. If you are going to go out and make a big prediction like that you should be able to handle it when it comes back to you without still trying to throw in another jab.

(09-02-2014 05:17 PM)EaglesDare Wrote:  

(09-02-2014 04:39 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(09-02-2014 03:50 PM)The Black Flag Wrote:  

(09-02-2014 12:02 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  It was a loss because NC State was able to outlast you with their depth. It was pretty easy to see.

It isn't a good measuring stick for deciding how the rest of the season will go. Hell, the gap in talent etc with other SBC teams is narrower than it was with NCSU.

So what happened to them beating us by 40 with their 3rd stringers?

I was pleasantly surprised.

I was also on the rebound year train of thought for NCSU.

I wouldn't gloat though, it isn't as if you looked good.

He's not gloating, just pointing out how wrong you were. If you are going to go out and make a big prediction like that you should be able to handle it when it comes back to you without still trying to throw in another jab.

Did you take that as a jab?

(09-02-2014 05:22 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(09-02-2014 05:17 PM)EaglesDare Wrote:  

(09-02-2014 04:39 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(09-02-2014 03:50 PM)The Black Flag Wrote:  

(09-02-2014 12:02 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  It was a loss because NC State was able to outlast you with their depth. It was pretty easy to see.

It isn't a good measuring stick for deciding how the rest of the season will go. Hell, the gap in talent etc with other SBC teams is narrower than it was with NCSU.

So what happened to them beating us by 40 with their 3rd stringers?

I was pleasantly surprised.

I was also on the rebound year train of thought for NCSU.

I wouldn't gloat though, it isn't as if you looked good.

He's not gloating, just pointing out how wrong you were. If you are going to go out and make a big prediction like that you should be able to handle it when it comes back to you without still trying to throw in another jab.

Did you take that as a jab?

Noooo, I'm sure you meant that as a compliment.

(09-02-2014 04:49 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  The only reason I say that is because that was an emotional game for your kids and you are a little dinged up.

If you knew anything about Savannah State you would know that they are a dumpster fire FCS program that should move back to Div II. They have won 6 football games in the last 5 seasons. Last years they were outscored 517 to 154.

(09-02-2014 12:02 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  It was a loss because NC State was able to outlast you with their depth. It was pretty easy to see.

It isn't a good measuring stick for deciding how the rest of the season will go. Hell, the gap in talent etc with other SBC teams is narrower than it was with NCSU.

Just looking at the teams you support. Is it Alabama, Louisville, and North Alabama? Arkansas, Louisville, Northern Arizona?

(09-02-2014 08:09 PM)Eagles Cliff Wrote:  

(09-02-2014 12:02 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  It was a loss because NC State was able to outlast you with their depth. It was pretty easy to see.

It isn't a good measuring stick for deciding how the rest of the season will go. Hell, the gap in talent etc with other SBC teams is narrower than it was with NCSU.

Just looking at the teams you support. Is it Alabama, Louisville, and North Alabama? Arkansas, Louisville, Northern Arizona?

Given the level of football intelligence he has shown in this thread I would definitely say that the UA in his teams stands for Alabama. Not the brightest group of fans, but my goodness do they love their football.

Guys we all know "shoulda, woulda AND Coulda" won that game. We had opt. after opt. to put that game away. So many little details that might have changed the outcome. We went toe to toe with them and they were lucky to survive.

The only thing I haven't heard discussed is the clock management.
This is more of an observation than a critic.

I watched that game and counted the seconds we left on that clock in the 4th quarter alone. (And I was yelling to run the clock with several minutes to go in the 3rd).

Got the game DVR'ed? Watch how much time we leave on the play clock in only the 4th quarter. 2:18

They got the ball back with 3:35 to go. Game clock (shoulda,woulda,coulda) - might have been at 1:17. Pressure is way different and a lot of teams and QB's panic. They did still have all 3 time outs, but unlikely they still have them if we bleed the clock.

We start sitting on that lead in the 3rd and maybe they never even touch it that last time. EVEN after all the missed opts like going for it on 4th and 2 and fumbling on the 1.

Anyone of those things goes our way and that game is done.


Oh well, something to learn from and a lot of game film to get better with. So many times the outside was wide open. So many times #4 "shoulda" handed it off.

We will only get better if we don't get hurt. The performance has me excited at how good we already are and with what I believe we can become as the season goes on.

It was a long ride back from NC. Going to be a longer wait to go to Atlanta.
Glad we have 2 weeks to work on all the details before any real test again.

GATA

(09-02-2014 05:31 PM)ValleyBoy Wrote:  

(09-02-2014 04:49 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  The only reason I say that is because that was an emotional game for your kids and you are a little dinged up.

If you knew anything about Savannah State you would know that they are a dumpster fire FCS program that should move back to Div II. They have won 6 football games in the last 5 seasons. Last years they were outscored 517 to 154.

I did a little more in depth numbers on just how abysmal they truly are when someone on our board tried to tell me that I was wrong and they weren't the worst team to come through Floyd Stadium in decades.

Since moving from DII to FCS in 2002 they are 18-113. Of those eighteen victories, only three have come against fellow FCS members, nine came against DII members, four came against NAIA members, one came against a USCAA member(never heard of USCAA? Yeah, me neither) and one came against a school that literally folded their program the year after losing to SSU.


PS if you find soneone to give you that GS-14 line, let me know, I'd bet every penny I could beg, borrow or steal between now and gametime.

(09-02-2014 09:40 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(09-02-2014 05:31 PM)ValleyBoy Wrote:  

(09-02-2014 04:49 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  The only reason I say that is because that was an emotional game for your kids and you are a little dinged up.

If you knew anything about Savannah State you would know that they are a dumpster fire FCS program that should move back to Div II. They have won 6 football games in the last 5 seasons. Last years they were outscored 517 to 154.

I did a little more in depth numbers on just how abysmal they truly are when someone on our board tried to tell me that I was wrong and they weren't the worst team to come through Floyd Stadium in decades.

Since moving from DII to FCS in 2002 they are 18-113. Of those eighteen victories, only three have come against fellow FCS members, nine came against DII members, four came against NAIA members, one came against a USCAA member(never heard of USCAA? Yeah, me neither) and one came against a school that literally folded their program the year after losing to SSU.


PS if you find soneone to give you that GS-14 line, let me know, I'd bet every penny I could beg, borrow or steal between now and gametime.

GS is 10-0 all time against Sav St. In those 10 games GS scored 418 Sav St 55. The last FIVE meetings between GS and Sav St going back to 1993 the average margin of victory in the game is FIFTY ONE (51) points.

http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/...eamid=2920

Internets. We all haz it. Sadly, though, not all of us haz clues.

edit: Please note, comment not intended to conflict with MTPiKapp's comments. My comment is in support of his point.

I had picked Georgia Southern to beat NC State by 3 points.
So wasn't surprised by their good showing by any means.

(09-02-2014 05:22 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(09-02-2014 05:17 PM)EaglesDare Wrote:  

(09-02-2014 04:39 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(09-02-2014 03:50 PM)The Black Flag Wrote:  

(09-02-2014 12:02 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  It was a loss because NC State was able to outlast you with their depth. It was pretty easy to see.

It isn't a good measuring stick for deciding how the rest of the season will go. Hell, the gap in talent etc with other SBC teams is narrower than it was with NCSU.

So what happened to them beating us by 40 with their 3rd stringers?

I was pleasantly surprised.

I was also on the rebound year train of thought for NCSU.

I wouldn't gloat though, it isn't as if you looked good.

He's not gloating, just pointing out how wrong you were. If you are going to go out and make a big prediction like that you should be able to handle it when it comes back to you without still trying to throw in another jab.

Did you take that as a jab?

Did a Georgia Southern grad steal your girl friend or something? What's your beef?