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There was like ONE UConn fan predicting a UConn win. Almost everyone else thought they would lose, including me, although I hoped it would have been closer.
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ecu, cinci, temple, ucf the upper echelon of the aac....
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(08-31-2014 08:19 PM)Stookey57 Wrote:  ecu, cinci, temple, ucf the upper echelon of the aac....

How is temple in the upper echelon already?
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(08-31-2014 08:21 PM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  
(08-31-2014 08:19 PM)Stookey57 Wrote:  ecu, cinci, temple, ucf the upper echelon of the aac....

How is temple in the upper echelon already?

By being one of the few teams that beat a team that actually has a pulse. They deserve some props for their win…Time will tell if it was a fluke or meant anything but Vanderbilt has been a pretty good team over the last few seasons.
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(08-31-2014 07:38 PM)Stookey57 Wrote:  wilke why you coming in here an being a dich, just stay the fuch out of here, your totally out of line, rubbing it in our face, how did wf do and nc state almost looses to ga southern............

Wilke's been posting so long he doesn't remember what conference his team is in anymore.
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(08-31-2014 08:19 PM)Stookey57 Wrote:  ecu, cinci, temple, ucf the upper echelon of the aac....

LOL cincy hasn't played a game yet and Temple beat Vandy...of course UCF lost and ECU played a nobody so I guess it's still wide open as to who is in the upper echelon of the arc haha
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(08-31-2014 09:10 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  
(08-31-2014 08:19 PM)Stookey57 Wrote:  ecu, cinci, temple, ucf the upper echelon of the aac....

LOL cincy hasn't played a game yet and Temple beat Vandy...of course UCF lost and ECU played a nobody so I guess it's still wide open as to who is in the upper echelon of the arc haha

Memphis also played a nobody and beat them worse than ECU's nobody. We're also in the "upper echelon." 04-rock
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So I guess there isn't much difference between us and the rest after all?
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(08-31-2014 09:22 PM)TampaKnight Wrote:  So I guess there isn't much difference between us and the rest after all?

too early to tell
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(08-31-2014 09:26 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  
(08-31-2014 09:22 PM)TampaKnight Wrote:  So I guess there isn't much difference between us and the rest after all?

too early to tell

Still to early to put the board's "P6" football argument to rest?
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(08-31-2014 09:22 PM)TampaKnight Wrote:  So I guess there isn't much difference between us and the rest after all?

If you're referring to the rest of the conferences that have won a recent NCAA Mens and Womens basketball NC, and a BCS Bowl over the Big 12 Champion, then there's not much difference.

If you're referring to any conference that has never come near that in their current configuration, then you're woefully uninformed.
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(08-31-2014 09:16 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  
(08-31-2014 09:10 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  
(08-31-2014 08:19 PM)Stookey57 Wrote:  ecu, cinci, temple, ucf the upper echelon of the aac....

LOL cincy hasn't played a game yet and Temple beat Vandy...of course UCF lost and ECU played a nobody so I guess it's still wide open as to who is in the upper echelon of the arc haha

Memphis also played a nobody and beat them worse than ECU's nobody. We're also in the "upper echelon." 04-rock

Yep, clearly Memphis is now in the upper echelon of this conference.
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(08-31-2014 09:38 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  
(08-31-2014 09:22 PM)TampaKnight Wrote:  So I guess there isn't much difference between us and the rest after all?

If you're referring to the rest of the conferences that have won a recent NCAA Mens and Womens basketball NC, and a BCS Bowl over the Big 12 Champion, then there's not much difference.

If you're referring to any conference that has never come near that in their current configuration, then you're woefully uninformed.

Excuse me.

You are very aware of my position regarding our conference, and how much I love being a part of everything we are trying to accomplish.

Woefully uninformed. Ha.
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(08-31-2014 09:36 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  
(08-31-2014 09:26 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  
(08-31-2014 09:22 PM)TampaKnight Wrote:  So I guess there isn't much difference between us and the rest after all?

too early to tell

Still to early to put the board's "P6" football argument to rest?

WOW....
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(08-30-2014 10:39 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  Well, I feel a lot better now. ECU utterly dominates and now USF leads late vs the fcs squad who I actually thought might win as late as 3rd qtr. The only really bad loss was Houston. (A very very bad loss) but the only real embarrassment so far....any chance for June and his boys tomorrow?? 04-cheers[/i]

Your opinion of Houston's performance simply isn't supported by the numbers. UCF's loss was worse statistically.

Houston: total offense = 111th; total defense = 29th.
UCF: total offense = 108th; total defense = 102nd.

Taking it a step further, their respective opponents are ranked as follows:

UTSA: total offense = 106th; total defense = 14th.
Penn State: total offense = 38th; total defense = 26th.

The 2013 records of those teams:

Houston, 8-5, 5-3
UTSA, 7-5, 6-2
UCF, 12-1, 8-0
Penn State, 7-5, 4-4

Despite tainted perceptions, UCF's loss was worse than Houston's. The only other loss comparable would be SMU. They ranked 117th offensively and 109th defensively. That being stated, SMU lost to a Top 25 team which should be more understandable than the other two.
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(09-01-2014 04:13 AM)shafted1 Wrote:  
(08-30-2014 10:39 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  Well, I feel a lot better now. ECU utterly dominates and now USF leads late vs the fcs squad who I actually thought might win as late as 3rd qtr. The only really bad loss was Houston. (A very very bad loss) but the only real embarrassment so far....any chance for June and his boys tomorrow?? 04-cheers[/i]

Your opinion of Houston's performance simply isn't supported by the numbers. UCF's loss was worse statistically.

Houston: total offense = 111th; total defense = 29th.
UCF: total offense = 108th; total defense = 102nd.

Taking it a step further, their respective opponents are ranked as follows:

UTSA: total offense = 106th; total defense = 14th.
Penn State: total offense = 38th; total defense = 26th.

The 2013 records of those teams:

Houston, 8-5, 5-3
UTSA, 7-5, 6-2
UCF, 12-1, 8-0
Penn State, 7-5, 4-4

Despite tainted perceptions, UCF's loss was worse than Houston's. The only other loss comparable would be SMU. They ranked 117th offensively and 109th defensively. That being stated, SMU lost to a Top 25 team which should be more understandable than the other two.

That is probably the best case to date of stats that lie. I am sorry but I will take penn state over utsa any day. Secondly you got 1.75 quarters worth of ucf's offense. Had Holman started the defense wouldn't have been gassed and our point total would have been higher. Not to mention that the offense for penn state wouldn't have been on the field the whole game. You had a couple of break downs that gave them over 100 yards in two plays and we still held them to 24 points. I am sorry but 8 and 5 in the b1g is better than 7 and 5 in cusa. Try to justify anything anyway you want but we would have dusted the team that Houston fielded this week.


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So far the 'Power' talk and advertising push the league has been doing has not been backed up. Hopefully week two will go better.
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With SMU's loss behind us now, I take some positives, some negatives, and some embarrassments from this weekend.

Positives...Memphis and Temple...I think they are going to be mid level American teams, and we need them to win OOC.

Negatives...UConn and USF....Honestly, I thought going into the year that these two were going to move into the middle of the conference...nope, I don't see it. Memphis and Temple are clearly ahead of these two, IMO.

Embarrassments....Houston and SMU...I know UTSA and Baylor have good teams...but the fact that they weren't even competitive games is extremely disappointing for the conference. I'll say the same thing if ECU gets blown out by South Carolina. There is no excuse for programs who spend significantly on their programs to be getting blown out by anyone outside of a national title contender (of which I don't put Baylor or South Carolina in that category). Its one thing to get the bottom of the conference to play better, but if our heavy invested programs get blown out, its not going to bode well for the overall strength of this conference.

Everything else went as expected.
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(08-31-2014 06:31 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(08-31-2014 05:04 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  
(08-31-2014 10:06 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(08-30-2014 03:52 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  Those of you on here saying that the "UCONN loss was expected" blah blah...are dishonest as hell today. Most of you were predicting that UCONN was going to beat byu. Now that I point out that it was a negative for the league the same people are saying that the game doesn't count, it was no surprise, it's a wash. That's BS and you know it. I won't say names or reply to your quotes; we all know who you are.

Your full of crap. Nobody expected UConn to win that game. Now Houston's debacle was not expected, but a UConn loss was pretty predictable. They had a total rebuild to do there---it's going to take a little time for UConn to get to where they want to be. Frankly, I don't think you are an ECU fan. Im pretty sure you are a MW shill left over from Boise's short stay.

Attackcoog, Please answer this question; I know you have the time and you do care about this because you've called me out too many times not to. Do you think I attended ECU but am not a true fan of ECU?...or do you think I didn't graduate (or attend at all) from ECU and am making it up? I'm assuming the latter because who the hell would pretend to be an ECU fan if they had no ties to it. (Like Houston) If you do indeed think the latter, please ask me as specific questions about ECU as you can think. IE where I lived, names of professors,info about on campus living, off campus, stuff pertaining to Greenville/Ayden/Pitt County area nicknames, bars etc. tidbits about the area only locals would know. Call my bluff. 04-cheers

I didn't go to ECU. Here, I'll let you do all the talking.

Hi, I was born and raised in Iowa. I've been a football fan since I was 5 (32 years) and old enough to comprehend that my cousin was a starter for the Iowa Hawkeye football team that played in the Rose Bowl. When I was a teenager my family moved us from Iowa to the SW area and I wasn't able to go to school at Iowa due to out of state tuition like some of my other family members. (Also have a brother who ran track--800--for the Hawkeyes) Due to the move and later, enlistment into the Army, I've moved around a lot and got my BA from a non P5 school after attending a few different universities. Yes, I still follow Iowa, but I'd rather see ECU and Army do well so that they get into the highest level of football with the hawkeyes. I believe that the BCS is an unfair, unAmerican system. I have a great job from Certified Labs in Texas, and I still serve in the US Army Reserves.

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All that and you mentioned ECU once. lol....I don't know any ECU fans like that. I think you like ECU like I like Rice---casually. You do talk an awful lot about Iowa and admit you lived in the SW (you know, where the MW is the major G5 league). Im pretty decent to folks on here, so if I treated you poorly, you probably deserved it long before I finally let you have it. Frankly, I have no problem if you are a MW or an Iowa fan or an FCS fan. I just think people need to understand where posters are really coming from with their opinions. Nothing wrong with being a MW fan. I enjoy watching some MW teams as well and am a big proponent of a nationwide league that's a mish-mash of both the AAC and MW. What I don't believe is you are the typical ECU fan we see on this board. I think you are more of a general college football fan. That said, much like real ECU fans, if you attack my school---I will respond. Im a homer. That's what a fan is--and Ive never claimed not to be a fan. Believe it or not, Im the not a coolaide drinker. lol....I get hammered on Coog boards for being too negative. Ive been around a long time. I know what the real score is. I know schools like mine are in trouble and Friday night didn't help.

btw--I do thank you for your service to our nation.

Thanks Attackcoog for taking the time to answer my reply. Also, thanks for the service acknowledgement 04-cheers I try to be open, I actually provide a bio on here which you cut and pasted unlike most others who hide everything about themselves including their sex.
1. Your major points--MWC conference-- is weak in football, who cares? No, I've never lived in a major MWC area. DFW certainly wouldn't qualify even during TCU's time in that conference.
2. SW Area--If I told people where we lived after leaving Iowa I'd be accused of being a Texas Tech fan. I hate Texas Tech. You would probably accuse me of being a UTEP fan or a fan of a team from CUSA or the Sun Belt because of your strange obsession with the other 'non-P5" leagues. (I hate the P5 moniker, but trying to simplify here) How do you define the region of the US that's located in SW Texas? Not talking about the Panhandle, not talking about EL Paso. I consider the area as Southwest United States. Most MW schools are in California, Nevada, Idaho, etc. Not even close to where I was.
3. I'm not the typical ECU fan: Correct. I'm not. But I'm still a big fan. My ECU friends won't go on this board. ECU has been there before, I don't need to act like it's a big deal to beat an FCS team in week 1. I will be making a ton of noise after wins the rest of the way starting next week. I'm going to annoy the hell out of most fans on here with my ECU praise and knowledge of stats/history and then I'll refer back to this and laugh.
4. I'm a general college football fan.--Yes, I love college football!!! I agree, unless you're saying that I have no dog in the hunt? No favorite team, or school to root for?
04-cheers
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That is probably the best case to date of stats that lie. I am sorry but I will take penn state over utsa any day. Secondly you got 1.75 quarters worth of ucf's offense. Had Holman started the defense wouldn't have been gassed and our point total would have been higher. Not to mention that the offense for penn state wouldn't have been on the field the whole game. You had a couple of break downs that gave them over 100 yards in two plays and we still held them to 24 points. I am sorry but 8 and 5 in the b1g is better than 7 and 5 in cusa. Try to justify anything anyway you want but we would have dusted the team that Houston fielded this week.
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'If' this or 'if' that doesn't hold up. 'If' frogs had wings they'd fly up and screw pigeons too but it didn't work out that way. UCF played all 4 quarters of that game, not 1.75. You're welcome to check with the NCAA Statistics personnel if you object to their numbers.

Neither Houston nor UCF performed well in their respective games. Houston is ranked 111th in total offense and UCF is 108th; not exactly enough difference to argue over. However, total defense rankings show Houston tied at 29th compared to UCF tied at 102nd; a distinct difference.

Penn State were not 8-5, they were 7-5 but you missed the point. The issue revolves around Houston's loss to UTSA. Both schools ended their 2013 seasons with similar records. Houston was 8-5 while UTSA was 7-5. On the other hand, UCF finished their 2013 season at 12-1 while Penn State finished at 7-5.

Statistics don't lie. Those numbers are based upon actual performance of the respective teams. However, they do eliminate the 'what if' from the equation. As for your claim, "we would have dusted the team that Houston fielded this week," I disagree. UCF only marginally out-performed Houston offensively but Houston performed much better defensively. In fact, they performed nearly as well as Penn State.

My comparison merely pointed out that the loss by a 12-1 team to a 7-5 team is worse than the loss by an 8-5 team to a 7-5 team. It was not an attack upon UCF; it merely identified a conference loss that was worse, on many levels, than Houston's. Several people gave a pass to UCF's loss in their assessment of the conference's weekly performance; a pass that was undeserved for obvious reasons. I would gladly apologize if I had misquoted any facts but I don't see any need to do so based upon my statement being taken out of context.
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