From and outsiders point of view I seriously didn't see a problem with play calling, receivers were open, you moved the ball effectively at times. It was just really bad decisions on the field played into
that outcome. If anything I would blame player development, but as far as play calling goes I'm not convinced that was the problem.

When O'Korn was FINALLY pulled from the game, Cosh his backup, was able to move the ball with ease. Hope he gets the start next week OR I hope we move Ward back to QB.

(08-30-2014 09:57 AM)Lollipop Coog Wrote:  When O'Korn was FINALLY pulled from the game, Cosh his backup, was able to move the ball with ease. Hope he gets the start next week OR I hope we move Ward back to QB.

Cosh was playing against our second team. Granted it was UH's second team on the field too, but he probably would've fared the same as O'Korn, had he played our first team defense. I wouldn't give up on O'Korn either. The biggest flaw for UH was the offensive line. The O-line should focus more on protecting him and less on shaving their faces.

There were a lot of drops no doubt the worst being Spencer dropping a pass in the end zone with no defenders near him. The balls O'Korn were throwing just looked flat and ill-timed.

The play calling wasn't atrocious as some would say but all off season Coach kept saying they were opening up the playbook more for O'Korn than they did last year and what I saw that was not the case.

There was no confidence in that offense and it falls on the feet of Bush.

(08-30-2014 09:53 AM)Jesterondirt Wrote:  From and outsiders point of view I seriously didn't see a problem with play calling, receivers were open, you moved the ball effectively at times. It was just really bad decisions on the field played into
that outcome. If anything I would blame player development, but as far as play calling goes I'm not convinced that was the problem.

the exact same team from last year returned, and scored 59 on utsa...their was only one major difference from last year to this on offense and it was OC

most of our fans hated him coming in to the season, this just assured all their fears

Game was decided at the line of scrimmage. Houston's Oline didn't get the job done and the QB just didn't perform well due to that and his own lack of poise it appeared. Stuff happens, but if that is a pattern Houston is in for a long season.

(08-30-2014 09:57 AM)Lollipop Coog Wrote:  When O'Korn was FINALLY pulled from the game, Cosh his backup, was able to move the ball with ease. Hope he gets the start next week OR I hope we move Ward back to QB.

okorn's the starter already confirmed

(08-30-2014 10:05 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(08-30-2014 09:53 AM)Jesterondirt Wrote:  From and outsiders point of view I seriously didn't see a problem with play calling, receivers were open, you moved the ball effectively at times. It was just really bad decisions on the field played into
that outcome. If anything I would blame player development, but as far as play calling goes I'm not convinced that was the problem.

the exact same team from last year returned, and scored 59 on utsa...their was only one major difference from last year to this on offense and it was OC

most of our fans hated him coming in to the season, this just assured all their fears

was O'Korn that erratic in last year's game though? he was high.....he wasn't on time....he was behind......he didn't look comfortable or settled in the pocket......it's easy to blame the coordinator in these situations but your QB really looked shaky last night......

(08-30-2014 10:11 AM)pesik Wrote:  okorn's the starter already confirmed

Booooooooooo!!!!!!!!

FIRE BUSH!!!

(08-30-2014 10:02 AM)UHDC Wrote:  There were a lot of drops no doubt the worst being Spencer dropping a pass in the end zone with no defenders near him. The balls O'Korn were throwing just looked flat and ill-timed.

I had just gotten settled in when O'Korn just stood around all day on one throw then telegraphed an incomplete pass near the end zone. Then, he threw a pick on a pass that got tipped into the air.

Oh yeah, those receivers have crap hands. I could somewhat deal with that in the good ol' days when it was Tyron Carrier dropping passes, because when he did catch the ball...he wasn't getting caught. With all this sideways dinking and dunking, well, not so much.

(08-30-2014 10:05 AM)pesik Wrote:  the exact same team from last year returned, and scored 59 on utsa...their was only one major difference from last year to this on offense and it was OC

most of our fans hated him coming in to the season, this just assured all their fears

Well, one problem was UTSA being -5 on TOs (5-0) last season even though they gained two more yards on offense. Yesterday was -5 for the Coogs and the rest is history.

If only the OC was the problem.

(08-30-2014 07:10 PM)AllPtsBulletin Wrote:  

(08-30-2014 10:02 AM)UHDC Wrote:  There were a lot of drops no doubt the worst being Spencer dropping a pass in the end zone with no defenders near him. The balls O'Korn were throwing just looked flat and ill-timed.

I had just gotten settled in when O'Korn just stood around all day on one throw then telegraphed an incomplete pass near the end zone. Then, he threw a pick on a pass that got tipped into the air.

Oh yeah, those receivers have crap hands. I could somewhat deal with that in the good ol' days when it was Tyron Carrier dropping passes, because when he did catch the ball...he wasn't getting caught. With all this sideways dinking and dunking, well, not so much.

(08-30-2014 10:05 AM)pesik Wrote:  the exact same team from last year returned, and scored 59 on utsa...their was only one major difference from last year to this on offense and it was OC

most of our fans hated him coming in to the season, this just assured all their fears

Well, one problem was UTSA being -5 on TOs (5-0) last season even though they gained two more yards on offense. Yesterday was -5 for the Coogs and the rest is history.

If only the OC was the problem.

half of the turnovers ended up in no points, and half the turnovers were when the game game was over (the 2 late game ints and fumbles)

we could have had zero turnovers, we'd have still lost, the problem was the offense not moving the ball, and again this same exact offense score 59 on this same team last year, but scored 7 this year, with a more experience team..the only negative difference from last year to this year is OC

Fire him now.

I was very unimpressed with your coordinator based on the espnu feature. He was very distracting with all the hand clapping.

I'll post what I posted in the CUSA board:

Dont understand the OC hate, seems like yall are just looking for a scapegoat. Our OC, who worked under and learned from Travis Bush, has done just fine. Not sure how UH's o-line getting dominated by UTSA's d-line which subsequently led to O'Korn being shaky all game can be placed on the OC's shoulders.

He's not a typical 'new' OC either. He's been at UH what, 3 years counting this one? He's been both the OC and co-OC during the majority of his time there.

(08-30-2014 10:05 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(08-30-2014 09:53 AM)Jesterondirt Wrote:  From and outsiders point of view I seriously didn't see a problem with play calling, receivers were open, you moved the ball effectively at times. It was just really bad decisions on the field played into
that outcome. If anything I would blame player development, but as far as play calling goes I'm not convinced that was the problem.

the exact same team from last year returned, and scored 59 on utsa...their was only one major difference from last year to this on offense and it was OC

most of our fans hated him coming in to the season, this just assured all their fears

It definitely reassured me that we made the wrong move at OC.

(08-30-2014 10:54 PM)correcamino Wrote:  I'll post what I posted in the CUSA board:

Dont understand the OC hate, seems like yall are just looking for a scapegoat. Our OC, who worked under and learned from Travis Bush, has done just fine. Not sure how UH's o-line getting dominated by UTSA's d-line which subsequently led to O'Korn being shaky all game can be placed on the OC's shoulders.

He's not a typical 'new' OC either. He's been at UH what, 3 years counting this one? He's been both the OC and co-OC during the majority of his time there.

1) 1 the reason we hate him is because his other tenure as OC was also horrible, not becuase he is a new OC who had a horrible game...

2) the point of the air raid/spread is to supplement weaker Olines with quick passes and wearing defenses down..so if he was running the offense correctly that shouldn't have been that big a problem

3) despite losing a lot of games piland was statistically pretty good under sumlin his freshemn year and we lost games on the defense, but he became a turnover machine when he played under bush in 2012... okorn had a a great freshmen season under meachum last year.but on his first game under bush had his by far worst game to date and it wasnt even close

im all for coincidences, but i cant ignore the facts..when you score over 45+ offensive points against a team return 85% of that team and score only 7 the next year ..something in the coaching is amiss and all signs point to bush

(08-31-2014 11:35 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(08-30-2014 10:54 PM)correcamino Wrote:  I'll post what I posted in the CUSA board:

Dont understand the OC hate, seems like yall are just looking for a scapegoat. Our OC, who worked under and learned from Travis Bush, has done just fine. Not sure how UH's o-line getting dominated by UTSA's d-line which subsequently led to O'Korn being shaky all game can be placed on the OC's shoulders.

He's not a typical 'new' OC either. He's been at UH what, 3 years counting this one? He's been both the OC and co-OC during the majority of his time there.

1) 1 the reason we hate him is because his other tenure as OC was also horrible, not becuase he is a new OC who had a horrible game...

2) the point of the air raid/spread is to supplement weaker Olines with quick passes and wearing defenses down..so if he was running the offense correctly that shouldn't have been that big a problem

3) despite losing a lot of games piland was statistically pretty good under sumlin his freshemn year and we lost games on the defense, but he became a turnover machine when he played under bush in 2012... okorn had a a great freshmen season under meachum last year.but on his first game under bush had his by far worst game to date and it wasnt even close

im all for coincidences, but i cant ignore the facts..when you score over 45+ offensive points against a team return 85% of that team and score only 7 the next year ..something in the coaching is amiss and all signs point to bush

Someone needs to post a burning bush to properly complete the thread.

(08-31-2014 03:52 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(08-31-2014 11:35 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(08-30-2014 10:54 PM)correcamino Wrote:  I'll post what I posted in the CUSA board:

Dont understand the OC hate, seems like yall are just looking for a scapegoat. Our OC, who worked under and learned from Travis Bush, has done just fine. Not sure how UH's o-line getting dominated by UTSA's d-line which subsequently led to O'Korn being shaky all game can be placed on the OC's shoulders.

He's not a typical 'new' OC either. He's been at UH what, 3 years counting this one? He's been both the OC and co-OC during the majority of his time there.

1) 1 the reason we hate him is because his other tenure as OC was also horrible, not becuase he is a new OC who had a horrible game...

2) the point of the air raid/spread is to supplement weaker Olines with quick passes and wearing defenses down..so if he was running the offense correctly that shouldn't have been that big a problem

3) despite losing a lot of games piland was statistically pretty good under sumlin his freshemn year and we lost games on the defense, but he became a turnover machine when he played under bush in 2012... okorn had a a great freshmen season under meachum last year.but on his first game under bush had his by far worst game to date and it wasnt even close

im all for coincidences, but i cant ignore the facts..when you score over 45+ offensive points against a team return 85% of that team and score only 7 the next year ..something in the coaching is amiss and all signs point to bush

Someone needs to post a burning bush to properly complete the thread.

Fire Bush was not good enough?

I sure hate to see him go...but, Keenum has been let go by the Texans. Fire Bush, Hire Case!