The rugby multi-lateral offense.

In all seriousness, look at high school football. That's where the innovation will come from.

I think that one of these days we're going to see a team where all 6 non-linemen on any play could run, catch, or pass. Princeton has had success doing this with 3 QBs, so why not make it 6? It's not like the talent isn't there.

(08-18-2014 11:14 AM)NYCTUFan Wrote:  

(08-18-2014 10:29 AM)NBPirate Wrote:  Over the years we've gone through "fads" if you will concerning offensive styles from the wishbone to the pro set to the spread.

How will football change in the next 10 years?

Just about everything new is a rehash of something old with a new name and a little polish. Case in point the “Wildcat” offense has been around since Pop Warner coached in 1907 and it was called the “Single Wing”.

If there were a D1 coach out there with any stones who could handle the pressure from the media and fans that wanted to try something truly new he would implement this system.

I agree. The statistics are with this coach.

(08-21-2014 09:01 AM)chess Wrote:  

(08-18-2014 11:14 AM)NYCTUFan Wrote:  

(08-18-2014 10:29 AM)NBPirate Wrote:  Over the years we've gone through "fads" if you will concerning offensive styles from the wishbone to the pro set to the spread.

How will football change in the next 10 years?

Just about everything new is a rehash of something old with a new name and a little polish. Case in point the “Wildcat” offense has been around since Pop Warner coached in 1907 and it was called the “Single Wing”.

If there were a D1 coach out there with any stones who could handle the pressure from the media and fans that wanted to try something truly new he would implement this system.

I agree. The statistics are with this coach.

With the movement of the kickoffs this makes a little more sense. Now that kickoffs are on the 35 yard line and the touchback is at the 25, you're probably giving up about 25 yards of field position on a failed onside kick. However, I bet you virtually eliminate kick returns for touchdowns.

Like he said in the video, football games are almost always decided by turnovers, every onside kick you recover is effectively a turnover.

(08-21-2014 09:01 AM)chess Wrote:  

(08-18-2014 11:14 AM)NYCTUFan Wrote:  

(08-18-2014 10:29 AM)NBPirate Wrote:  Over the years we've gone through "fads" if you will concerning offensive styles from the wishbone to the pro set to the spread.

How will football change in the next 10 years?

Just about everything new is a rehash of something old with a new name and a little polish. Case in point the “Wildcat” offense has been around since Pop Warner coached in 1907 and it was called the “Single Wing”.

If there were a D1 coach out there with any stones who could handle the pressure from the media and fans that wanted to try something truly new he would implement this system.

I agree. The statistics are with this coach.

The stats agree with him in HS, but that gets progressively less true at higher levels.

(08-21-2014 10:22 AM)SublimeKnight Wrote:  

(08-21-2014 09:01 AM)chess Wrote:  

(08-18-2014 11:14 AM)NYCTUFan Wrote:  

(08-18-2014 10:29 AM)NBPirate Wrote:  Over the years we've gone through "fads" if you will concerning offensive styles from the wishbone to the pro set to the spread.

How will football change in the next 10 years?

Just about everything new is a rehash of something old with a new name and a little polish. Case in point the “Wildcat” offense has been around since Pop Warner coached in 1907 and it was called the “Single Wing”.

If there were a D1 coach out there with any stones who could handle the pressure from the media and fans that wanted to try something truly new he would implement this system.

I agree. The statistics are with this coach.

With the movement of the kickoffs this makes a little more sense. Now that kickoffs are on the 35 yard line and the touchback is at the 25, you're probably giving up about 25 yards of field position on a failed onside kick. However, I bet you virtually eliminate kick returns for touchdowns.

Like he said in the video, football games are almost always decided by turnovers, every onside kick you recover is effectively a turnover.

Fun fact for Everyone... The QB of the team in that video is committed to Tulsa! His passing stats are probably inflated due to more possessions, but he looks like an absolute steal for us...

(08-20-2014 10:15 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  Turn back the clock:

Wing T and/or other running game formations that use to be the norm.

With fast-passed short drop passing games now being the norm, that's exactly what team defenses work on during the season...so I look for a team to use formations (maybe similar to Navy, Ga Tech, etc..) that they won't see, maybe at all, during the rest of the season.

Another example: Georgia Southern beat Florida last year without completing even ONE PASS...as their strong running game couldn't be stopped.

This may be the best comment in this thread, including being better than any comment I've made. The reason that the wishbone, quick/no huddle, veer, etc, etc, etc offenses work when so very, very well when they are first introduced is because they aren't seen by defenses throughout the year or in practice.

Once that offense is adopted by the masses, the defense catches up. It's been that way since the switch from the single wing/straight T/split T/I formation/unbalanced line/wishbone/veer, and ongoing up to the no-huddle quick offense in vogue today. Without a pretty significant edge in skills, defenses struggle defending an offense that they are not familiar with.

(08-21-2014 11:46 AM)oldtiger Wrote:  

(08-20-2014 10:15 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  Turn back the clock:

Wing T and/or other running game formations that use to be the norm.

With fast-passed short drop passing games now being the norm, that's exactly what team defenses work on during the season...so I look for a team to use formations (maybe similar to Navy, Ga Tech, etc..) that they won't see, maybe at all, during the rest of the season.

Another example: Georgia Southern beat Florida last year without completing even ONE PASS...as their strong running game couldn't be stopped.

This may be the best comment in this thread, including being better than any comment I've made. The reason that the wishbone, quick/no huddle, veer, etc, etc, etc offenses work when so very, very well when they are first introduced is because they aren't seen by defenses throughout the year or in practice.

Once that offense is adopted by the masses, the defense catches up. It's been that way since the switch from the single wing/straight T/split T/I formation/unbalanced line/wishbone/veer, and ongoing up to the no-huddle quick offense in vogue today. Without a pretty significant edge in skills, defenses struggle defending an offense that they are not familiar with.

Ever notice that some teams with amazing offenses (especially fast paced passing offenses) sometimes have some of the worst defenses? Part of that is due to their own defenses generally only seeing their own offense at work...and if they ever encounter a different style type offense, they struggle mightily.