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RE: BYU Can't Convince Conferences it is a Power Team
BYU or anyone else isn’t going to the Big 12, not because of performance or games on Sunday it’s because of the third tier TV rights. In the Big 12 the schools own the third tier rights not the conference so if any new programs join the only one who will profit would be the new addition school. That was done to keep Texas happy and allow them to create the Longhorn Network and individually sell their third tier rights. If expansion happened the current TV deal would be divided up by one or two more programs and each school would get less than they do now. There is no incentive for the Big 12 to expand.

The current deal runs through 2024-25 so the network would have no incentive to open up negotiations for a new contract.

Same thing with need for a conference championship game, the Big 12 has no incentive to have a CCG until it’s a mandate by the NCAA or they are sure that in some way not having one puts their programs at a disadvantage in getting to the playoff and even if they expand under that scenario it will mean every program will be taking a pay cut.

The Big 12 is off the board for everyone that’s not a current member until 2024 unless something drastic happens.
09-02-2014 07:58 AM
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RE: BYU Can't Convince Conferences it is a Power Team
(08-27-2014 04:27 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  
(08-27-2014 01:05 PM)YNot Wrote:  
(08-26-2014 04:50 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  Is the target 12, 14, or 16 teams? Possible teams with 2013 revenue:

Nevada-Las Vegas $64,513,044
New Mexico $44,345,840
Boise State $43,166,257
San Diego State $39,211,827
Air Force $39,031,348
Army $37,289,204
Old Dominion $36,929,483
Colorado State $34,791,926
Fresno State $33,734,773
Massachusetts $30,060,635
BYU $22,400,000 in 2012

I'm not sure where you obtained the BYU information from the above list, because the other universities appear to be spot on.

In 2013, BYU actually reported $54,644,578 million in gross revenues with about a $5 million profit. No student fees. No university subsidy.

Compare to:

UNLV: $64 million in revenues - $6.4 million ticket sales, $3.4 million from the MWC; $2.5 million in student fees and $21 million in university subsidy - "profit" of about $1 million.

Boise St: $43 million in revenue, $8.2 million ticket sales, $3.5 million from the MWC, with $3.2 million in student fees and $3.7 million in university subsidy. $100K loss.

SDSU: $39 millioin in revenue, $5.3 million ticket sales, $3.8 million from the MWC, $9.7 in student fees and $7.3 million in university subsidy; $3.5 million loss.

See also:

UConn: $63 million in revenue, $8.8 million ticket sales, $13.6 million from the AAC (incl. exit fees?), with $9.7 in student fees and $9.1 in university subsidy. $100K loss.

Cincinnati: $61 million in revenue, $7.4 million ticket sales, $12.6 million from AAC (incl. exit fees?), no student fees, $20 million in university subsidy. $2.4 million profit.

USF: $47 million in revenue, $6.4 million ticket sales, $12.5 million from AAC (incl. exit fees?), $16 million in student fees, $1.4 million university subsidy; almost $3 million profit

Memphis: $46 million in revenue, $8.3 million ticket sales, $1.9 million from AAC, $8.2 in student fees, $7.3 in university subsidy; $200K loss

Houston: $42 million in revenue, $3.8 million ticket sales, $2.6 million from AAC, $7.7 million student fees, $18.3 million university subsidy; $600K loss

UCF: $41 million in revenues, $3.9 million ticket sales, $3.3 million from AAC, $20 million in student fees, $2.2 million university subsidy; $600K loss

Also interesting:

Rutgers: $78 million in revenues, $8.7 million ticket sales, $9.5 million from AAC (incl exit fees?), $9.8 million student fees $37.1 million UNIVERSITY SUBSIDY!; broke even - exactly.

Utah: $46 million in revenues, $12 million ticket sales, $10.3 million from the PAC 12 (1/2 share), but $6 million in student fees and $4.1 million university subsidy. $2.5 million loss.

Arizona St.: $65 million in revenues, $9.5 ticket sales, $20.2 million from PAC 12, no student fees, $8.6 university subsidy; $73K profit

Texas: $165 million in revenues, $60.8 million ticket sales! $21.7 million from Big 12, no student fees, no university subsidy; $19 million profit. (Legit!)

Love it that UC turns a profit. We are sitting in good hands right now.

Anyone can turn a profit if someone is subsidizing them. It's no big deal. It's just hiding the reality of big $$$ losses in athletics from tuition/fee paying parents.
09-02-2014 09:05 AM
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