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RE: OT: ISIS holding UCF graduate in beheading video
(08-20-2014 11:42 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(08-19-2014 10:08 PM)CyberBull Wrote:  
(08-19-2014 08:14 PM)Knightbengal Wrote:  
(08-19-2014 08:08 PM)Cougar King Wrote:  
(08-19-2014 07:44 PM)Knightbengal Wrote:  Still need boots on the ground

Easy for you to say, you're not the one who will be deployed.

See the next post. My wife served as well. The bottom line is a10s do not provide solutions. Boots on the ground do. People and materiel can hide from everything we can throw at them. If you go to war you have to have boots on the ground period. I didn't say that was what we should do.


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We have tried boots on the ground...remember...and for all those brave men and women who put their lives on hold or made the ultimate sacrifice, nothing changed. It's hard to nation build when the different factions that makeup the alleged nation don't want to cooperate.

Some of my best friends are current or former military and while we may disagree politically about why they should or shouldn't be there every american should have ultimate respect for our service men/women. Im just not sure that even if we would have remained in Iraq another 25 years if anything would be different once we eventually left. if that is the case why not be more selective on where we deploy our resources. plenty of weakness to tackle abroad that more directly influence our national strength and security.

There were silly political reasons that required that we attempt to rebuild Iraq as a single unified nation (which it really is not). Hopefully, the current situation will allow the powers that be to see than the nation ideally should be subdivided into 3 separate nations. At the very least, it needs to move to a federal/state government that allows a very high degree of independence for the "states", but leaves them united under one very limited federal government where power is shared. Either way, a powerful military presence will be required for some time due to the unstable nature of the region---but at least these two proposals might actually be able to work long term.

Iraq as it stands is an unstable collection of peoples and territories that was designed via tense negotiations between the Russian, Americans, and British following WWII. It has little to do with the way things really are in Iraq.

The first guy to make the point of the ONLY longterm solution. Iraq needs to be divided into 3 countries. I don't think people realize how randomly all these countries were carved into the map without thought of ethnic or religious lines. Kuwait for example is a completely made up country!

Anyone that says Iraq is falling under Iranian influence I would say of course. It's 60% Shia, Iran is Shia! We throw a minority in the Sunni's and put in the majority there is going to be retribution.
08-20-2014 09:24 PM
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RE: OT: ISIS holding UCF graduate in beheading video
(08-20-2014 08:10 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  
(08-20-2014 03:05 PM)knightmite Wrote:  Support the Kurds and fuuuk Turkey and all our other supposed "friends".

"US President Barack Obama’s authorization of airstrikes on ISIS targets in Iraq serves as an opportunity to remind ourselves which countries are bankrolling the deadly terror group.

The answer: Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Turkey and Qatar – three of the United States’ biggest allies in the region." 03-banghead

Saudi Arabia is the biggest producer of these extreme idiots. They teach in their schools

All but one of the 9/11 terrorists were Saudis, yet our presidents continue to bow to their king.
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