(08-19-2014 12:38 AM)Tygrys Wrote:  

(08-18-2014 11:29 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

(08-18-2014 11:01 PM)Tygrys Wrote:  

(08-18-2014 10:02 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(08-18-2014 09:42 PM)mairving Wrote:  Interesting...

Big men - (Iverson, King, Shaq, Hawkins) 24-30, 80% from the field
Everyone else - 10-29, 34% from the field

Tired Legs. 3 games in three days does that to shooters.

I am afraid we will not be a very good outside shooting team again this year. All 3 games have had a pretty low 3 point percentage. However, as long as we consistently play through the post and hit enough open threes to keep the defense honest we will be fine. If we try to live by the three then it will be a long season.

I don't know how you can come to that conclusion. Three scrimmages do not determine what the team will be by the end of the season. We may not be a good 3 point team but one can't base it off of this yet especially with all of the new players in the backcourt that never played D1 basketball

Ya ya... And this was pretty much the message we heard all of last year, it was just an early season slump and they would shoot their way out of it... Shooting is shooting. It is pretty easy to determine whether long range shooting will be strength or not. For this team, it appears that long range shooting will not be a strength. Like I said though, it does not have to be to have a good season. Play through the post and knock down enough open 3s to keep the defense honest (which we should have good enough shooting to do). That is how most teams play, as most teams are not great outside shooting teams. Coming into the year our best 3 point shooter is Avery Woodson who shot 37% last year in JUCO. That is not terrible but it is not what most would consider a "dead eye shooter".

THAT was last year. This is not last year. As a fan I would think that its appropriate to give the newcomers in the backcourt a chance to proved themselves on whether or not they are good at hitting a good percentage of 3s and that takes practice and experience in scrimmages, exhibitions and eventually real games . Some of these guys may just need to get comfortable in the flow of the games and build up their confidence.

(08-19-2014 12:38 AM)Tygrys Wrote:  

(08-18-2014 11:29 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

(08-18-2014 11:01 PM)Tygrys Wrote:  

(08-18-2014 10:02 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(08-18-2014 09:42 PM)mairving Wrote:  Interesting...

Big men - (Iverson, King, Shaq, Hawkins) 24-30, 80% from the field
Everyone else - 10-29, 34% from the field

Tired Legs. 3 games in three days does that to shooters.

I am afraid we will not be a very good outside shooting team again this year. All 3 games have had a pretty low 3 point percentage. However, as long as we consistently play through the post and hit enough open threes to keep the defense honest we will be fine. If we try to live by the three then it will be a long season.

I don't know how you can come to that conclusion. Three scrimmages do not determine what the team will be by the end of the season. We may not be a good 3 point team but one can't base it off of this yet especially with all of the new players in the backcourt that never played D1 basketball

Ya ya... And this was pretty much the message we heard all of last year, it was just an early season slump and they would shoot their way out of it... Shooting is shooting. It is pretty easy to determine whether long range shooting will be strength or not. For this team, it appears that long range shooting will not be a strength. Like I said though, it does not have to be to have a good season. Play through the post and knock down enough open 3s to keep the defense honest (which we should have good enough shooting to do). That is how most teams play, as most teams are not great outside shooting teams. Coming into the year our best 3 point shooter is Avery Woodson who shot 37% last year in JUCO. That is not terrible but it is not what most would consider a "dead eye shooter".

I thought Avery looked potentially better than a 37% shooter. Maybe he just needs stronger legs to make more triples. JUCO isn't all that great for developing strength and endurance. His form looked good and repeatable. Of course, all this is based on the one game I saw today and the interviews with players.

(08-19-2014 01:21 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

(08-19-2014 12:38 AM)Tygrys Wrote:  

(08-18-2014 11:29 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

(08-18-2014 11:01 PM)Tygrys Wrote:  

(08-18-2014 10:02 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  Tired Legs. 3 games in three days does that to shooters.

I am afraid we will not be a very good outside shooting team again this year. All 3 games have had a pretty low 3 point percentage. However, as long as we consistently play through the post and hit enough open threes to keep the defense honest we will be fine. If we try to live by the three then it will be a long season.

I don't know how you can come to that conclusion. Three scrimmages do not determine what the team will be by the end of the season. We may not be a good 3 point team but one can't base it off of this yet especially with all of the new players in the backcourt that never played D1 basketball

Ya ya... And this was pretty much the message we heard all of last year, it was just an early season slump and they would shoot their way out of it... Shooting is shooting. It is pretty easy to determine whether long range shooting will be strength or not. For this team, it appears that long range shooting will not be a strength. Like I said though, it does not have to be to have a good season. Play through the post and knock down enough open 3s to keep the defense honest (which we should have good enough shooting to do). That is how most teams play, as most teams are not great outside shooting teams. Coming into the year our best 3 point shooter is Avery Woodson who shot 37% last year in JUCO. That is not terrible but it is not what most would consider a "dead eye shooter".

THAT was last year. This is not last year. As a fan I would think that its appropriate to give the newcomers in the backcourt a chance to proved themselves on whether or not they are good at hitting a good percentage of 3s and that takes practice and experience in scrimmages, exhibitions and eventually real games . Some of these guys may just need to get comfortable in the flow of the games and build up their confidence.

Yup. It's just the beginning. I'm feeling pretty confident about this year's team. I already like them a lot, and, even though they were a bit turnover prone today, I think you could see flashes of potential that were pretty awesome. Ok..shoot me.. I'm stoked. lol.

As for the low 3pt% on this trip, I think that can solely be attributed to Avery Woodson shaking some rust off. How many 3s has he attempted vs the rest of the team?

(08-19-2014 01:21 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

(08-19-2014 12:38 AM)Tygrys Wrote:  

(08-18-2014 11:29 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

(08-18-2014 11:01 PM)Tygrys Wrote:  

(08-18-2014 10:02 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  Tired Legs. 3 games in three days does that to shooters.

I am afraid we will not be a very good outside shooting team again this year. All 3 games have had a pretty low 3 point percentage. However, as long as we consistently play through the post and hit enough open threes to keep the defense honest we will be fine. If we try to live by the three then it will be a long season.

I don't know how you can come to that conclusion. Three scrimmages do not determine what the team will be by the end of the season. We may not be a good 3 point team but one can't base it off of this yet especially with all of the new players in the backcourt that never played D1 basketball

Ya ya... And this was pretty much the message we heard all of last year, it was just an early season slump and they would shoot their way out of it... Shooting is shooting. It is pretty easy to determine whether long range shooting will be strength or not. For this team, it appears that long range shooting will not be a strength. Like I said though, it does not have to be to have a good season. Play through the post and knock down enough open 3s to keep the defense honest (which we should have good enough shooting to do). That is how most teams play, as most teams are not great outside shooting teams. Coming into the year our best 3 point shooter is Avery Woodson who shot 37% last year in JUCO. That is not terrible but it is not what most would consider a "dead eye shooter".

THAT was last year. This is not last year. As a fan I would think that its appropriate to give the newcomers in the backcourt a chance to proved themselves on whether or not they are good at hitting a good percentage of 3s and that takes practice and experience in scrimmages, exhibitions and eventually real games . Some of these guys may just need to get comfortable in the flow of the games and build up their confidence.

Time will tell and I would gladly be wrong on this point. However, I will stand by the phrase "shooting is shooting". IMO 3 point shooting just will not be a strength. I think certain players like Pookie and Woodson will have a few games where they get red hot and light it up, but it just will not be consistent from game to game. But this team does not have to be deadly from the outside to have a really good season so long as they play through the post, which IMO is by far the best strength of the roster.

(08-19-2014 07:20 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  As for the low 3pt% on this trip, I think that can solely be attributed to Avery Woodson shaking some rust off. How many 3s has he attempted vs the rest of the team?

Game 1 team 2/9 and Woodson 0/2
Game 2 team 5/15 and Woodson 2/8
Game 3 team 5/13 and Woodson 2/3

Total team 12/37 (32.4%) and Woodson 4/13 (30.8%)

*** Team numbers include Woodsons three point attempts

I bet he makes em in practice.

(08-19-2014 09:10 AM)Tygrys Wrote:  

(08-19-2014 07:20 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  As for the low 3pt% on this trip, I think that can solely be attributed to Avery Woodson shaking some rust off. How many 3s has he attempted vs the rest of the team?

Game 1 team 2/9 and Woodson 0/2
Game 2 team 5/15 and Woodson 2/8
Game 3 team 5/13 and Woodson 2/3

Total team 12/37 (32.4%) and Woodson 4/13 (30.8%)

*** Team numbers include Woodsons three point attempts

So the rest of the team is 33%? Still not great. Interesting that Woodson has taken over a third of our 3's so far. Let's everyone know what his role this year will be.

(08-19-2014 10:06 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(08-19-2014 09:10 AM)Tygrys Wrote:  

(08-19-2014 07:20 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  As for the low 3pt% on this trip, I think that can solely be attributed to Avery Woodson shaking some rust off. How many 3s has he attempted vs the rest of the team?

Game 1 team 2/9 and Woodson 0/2
Game 2 team 5/15 and Woodson 2/8
Game 3 team 5/13 and Woodson 2/3

Total team 12/37 (32.4%) and Woodson 4/13 (30.8%)

*** Team numbers include Woodsons three point attempts

So the rest of the team is 33%? Still not great. Interesting that Woodson has taken over a third of our 3's so far. Let's everyone know what his role this year will be.

That's a good start. Right up front, get that clear.

Why did McGill get to play 200min and us only 164? Who else did they play? And isnt that cheating?

Seems like the Tigers whooped 'em pretty good. It'll be interesting to see what happens with Carleton the second time around.

When I die I hope it is peacefully.