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I'm not sure how much coaching the staff is doing. We aren't holding on to the ball for the last shot on quarter ending possession. Also, IMO, the two Ottawa guards were obviously 100X better going to their right. I would say that they did 90% of the time, but I didn't see any of our guards trying to take away their right hand.

From observing the coaching staff; when they seem to be giving direction the most is by telling players where they should be/should have been on defense. My impression is that they are teaching the basics and not so concerned about situational strategy or making adjustments to fit the opponent.
08-18-2014 09:18 AM
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(08-18-2014 09:18 AM)Stammers Wrote:  I'm not sure how much coaching the staff is doing. We aren't holding on to the ball for the last shot on quarter ending possession. Also, IMO, the two Ottawa guards were obviously 100X better going to their right. I would say that they did 90% of the time, but I didn't see any of our guards trying to take away their right hand.

From observing the coaching staff; when they seem to be giving direction the most is by telling players where they should be/should have been on defense. My impression is that they are teaching the basics and not so concerned about situational strategy or making adjustments to fit the opponent.

But there seems to be a lot of coaching on this board though and all from 2 "scrimmages".
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(08-18-2014 09:29 AM)memphistiger001 Wrote:  
(08-18-2014 09:18 AM)Stammers Wrote:  I'm not sure how much coaching the staff is doing. We aren't holding on to the ball for the last shot on quarter ending possession. Also, IMO, the two Ottawa guards were obviously 100X better going to their right. I would say that they did 90% of the time, but I didn't see any of our guards trying to take away their right hand.

From observing the coaching staff; when they seem to be giving direction the most is by telling players where they should be/should have been on defense. My impression is that they are teaching the basics and not so concerned about situational strategy or making adjustments to fit the opponent.

But there seems to be a lot of coaching on this board though and all from 2 "scrimmages".

Yep, and none have seen one minute of any game that has been played.
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(08-18-2014 09:18 AM)Stammers Wrote:  I'm not sure how much coaching the staff is doing. We aren't holding on to the ball for the last shot on quarter ending possession. Also, IMO, the two Ottawa guards were obviously 100X better going to their right. I would say that they did 90% of the time, but I didn't see any of our guards trying to take away their right hand.

From observing the coaching staff; when they seem to be giving direction the most is by telling players where they should be/should have been on defense. My impression is that they are teaching the basics and not so concerned about situational strategy or making adjustments to fit the opponent.

I am glad to hear they are teaching the basics because most of the kids are not taught the basics while in high school. Like: when rebounding you box out.
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(08-18-2014 09:21 AM)NJ1 Wrote:  Hmm... maybe a lot of the new/young faces need more teaching on the basics right now, so they're prioritizing that?

Did you see any flash cards in action?

No flash cards and the team seems to be playing straight up man all the time. After open threes, players are getting yanked and are being told where they should have been. I have no clue because I haven't talked to the coaches, but I think they seem to be taking the approach to seeing what they have, and stressing defensive principles. There doesn't seem to be much strategy.
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For those that don't know, Stammers will be covering the Tigers north of the border games on a full time basis this entire season.
Thanks, Stam. You're giving us great stuff; and it's highly appreciated.
Keep it coming.
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(08-18-2014 09:50 AM)Pastnerized Wrote:  For those that don't know, Stammers will be covering the Tigers north of the border games on a full time basis this entire season.
Thanks, Stam. You're giving us great stuff; and it's highly appreciated.
Keep it coming.

The game was played at a much faster pace than the Carleton game, which made it very difficult to post from my phone. Also, it was more fun to actually watch the game instead of missing the first few seconds of a lot of possessions because I was texting.
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(08-18-2014 09:50 AM)Pastnerized Wrote:  For those that don't know, Stammers will be covering the Tigers north of the border games on a full time basis this entire season.
Thanks, Stam. You're giving us great stuff; and it's highly appreciated.
Keep it coming.

If we lose one more game we might have to fire him though.
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(08-18-2014 09:40 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(08-18-2014 09:21 AM)NJ1 Wrote:  Hmm... maybe a lot of the new/young faces need more teaching on the basics right now, so they're prioritizing that?

Did you see any flash cards in action?

No flash cards and the team seems to be playing straight up man all the time. After open threes, players are getting yanked and are being told where they should have been. I have no clue because I haven't talked to the coaches, but I think they seem to be taking the approach to seeing what they have, and stressing defensive principles. There doesn't seem to be much strategy.

I am no side line coach but is this something fans should be concerned about? "There doesn't seem to be much strategy."
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(08-18-2014 10:00 AM)83msu Wrote:  
(08-18-2014 09:40 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(08-18-2014 09:21 AM)NJ1 Wrote:  Hmm... maybe a lot of the new/young faces need more teaching on the basics right now, so they're prioritizing that?

Did you see any flash cards in action?

No flash cards and the team seems to be playing straight up man all the time. After open threes, players are getting yanked and are being told where they should have been. I have no clue because I haven't talked to the coaches, but I think they seem to be taking the approach to seeing what they have, and stressing defensive principles. There doesn't seem to be much strategy.

I am no side line coach but is this something fans should be concerned about? "There doesn't seem to be much strategy."

Give it time. Strategy and play calling will come once the guys grasp the basics of where they need to be in a vanilla, man defense. A lot of these guys are new to the system and they've had only a handful or actual practices so far.
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(08-18-2014 10:00 AM)83msu Wrote:  
(08-18-2014 09:40 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(08-18-2014 09:21 AM)NJ1 Wrote:  Hmm... maybe a lot of the new/young faces need more teaching on the basics right now, so they're prioritizing that?

Did you see any flash cards in action?

No flash cards and the team seems to be playing straight up man all the time. After open threes, players are getting yanked and are being told where they should have been. I have no clue because I haven't talked to the coaches, but I think they seem to be taking the approach to seeing what they have, and stressing defensive principles. There doesn't seem to be much strategy.

I am no side line coach but is this something fans should be concerned about? "There doesn't seem to be much strategy."

We have had 10 practices leading up to this game. We only have 8 scholarship players that have played. Nichols is on the trip but hasn't played. Of those that have played, only one guy, Shaq played significant minutes last year. Iverson and King only averaged around 10 minutes a game. We have Pookie, Avery Woodson, Markel Crawford, Hawkins and Magee who have not played in a Tiger uniform prior to the game on Saturday. We also have 4 guys, Kendren Johnson, Austin Nichols, Trahson Burrell and Godfrey who are expected to be significant pieces to our team this year that aren't playing.

You can worry about it if you want but guys coming out of high school and JUCO ranks generally take some time to learn how to play defense properly. It's really just a glorified summer practice where they keep score.
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(08-18-2014 09:33 AM)mairving Wrote:  
(08-18-2014 09:29 AM)memphistiger001 Wrote:  
(08-18-2014 09:18 AM)Stammers Wrote:  I'm not sure how much coaching the staff is doing. We aren't holding on to the ball for the last shot on quarter ending possession. Also, IMO, the two Ottawa guards were obviously 100X better going to their right. I would say that they did 90% of the time, but I didn't see any of our guards trying to take away their right hand.

From observing the coaching staff; when they seem to be giving direction the most is by telling players where they should be/should have been on defense. My impression is that they are teaching the basics and not so concerned about situational strategy or making adjustments to fit the opponent.

But there seems to be a lot of coaching on this board though and all from 2 "scrimmages".

Yep, and none have seen one minute of any game that has been played.

I thought Stammers had been to both games?
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(08-18-2014 10:00 AM)83msu Wrote:  
(08-18-2014 09:40 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(08-18-2014 09:21 AM)NJ1 Wrote:  Hmm... maybe a lot of the new/young faces need more teaching on the basics right now, so they're prioritizing that?

Did you see any flash cards in action?

No flash cards and the team seems to be playing straight up man all the time. After open threes, players are getting yanked and are being told where they should have been. I have no clue because I haven't talked to the coaches, but I think they seem to be taking the approach to seeing what they have, and stressing defensive principles. There doesn't seem to be much strategy.

I am no side line coach but is this something fans should be concerned about? "There doesn't seem to be much strategy."

I like it the way it is. See what you have man to man. They have only had 10 practices, all of the players are new, and a lot of the players are missing. See what you have, and get the players used to each other on and off the court.
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(08-18-2014 10:19 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(08-18-2014 10:00 AM)83msu Wrote:  
(08-18-2014 09:40 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(08-18-2014 09:21 AM)NJ1 Wrote:  Hmm... maybe a lot of the new/young faces need more teaching on the basics right now, so they're prioritizing that?

Did you see any flash cards in action?

No flash cards and the team seems to be playing straight up man all the time. After open threes, players are getting yanked and are being told where they should have been. I have no clue because I haven't talked to the coaches, but I think they seem to be taking the approach to seeing what they have, and stressing defensive principles. There doesn't seem to be much strategy.

I am no side line coach but is this something fans should be concerned about? "There doesn't seem to be much strategy."

I like it the way it is. See what you have man to man. They have only had 10 practices, all of the players are new, and a lot of the players are missing. See what you have, and get the players used to each other on and off the court.

Hey sounds like a strategy to me! COGS
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True, it is like a 'glorified practice' with new rules, scorers and refs.

But the Canadian teams really want to win and show their stuff. We are Memphis. lol. ranked in the top 10. 04-rock I'm liking that ranking.
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(08-18-2014 09:18 AM)Stammers Wrote:  I'm not sure how much coaching the staff is doing. We aren't holding on to the ball for the last shot on quarter ending possession. Also, IMO, the two Ottawa guards were obviously 100X better going to their right. I would say that they did 90% of the time, but I didn't see any of our guards trying to take away their right hand.

From observing the coaching staff; when they seem to be giving direction the most is by telling players where they should be/should have been on defense. My impression is that they are teaching the basics and not so concerned about situational strategy or making adjustments to fit the opponent.

Mick Light, Keef and I are waiting for a Stammers/Jason Smith drinking update doe
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(08-18-2014 09:57 AM)mairving Wrote:  
(08-18-2014 09:50 AM)Pastnerized Wrote:  For those that don't know, Stammers will be covering the Tigers north of the border games on a full time basis this entire season.
Thanks, Stam. You're giving us great stuff; and it's highly appreciated.
Keep it coming.

If we lose one more game we might have to fire him though.

you mean "fire him doe"?
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03-lmfao
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(08-18-2014 09:52 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(08-18-2014 09:50 AM)Pastnerized Wrote:  For those that don't know, Stammers will be covering the Tigers north of the border games on a full time basis this entire season.
Thanks, Stam. You're giving us great stuff; and it's highly appreciated.
Keep it coming.

The game was played at a much faster pace than the Carleton game, which made it very difficult to post from my phone. Also, it was more fun to actually watch the game instead of missing the first few seconds of a lot of possessions because I was texting.

I just hope you sat back and enjoyed the game a little. I can't wait to get my turn when they come to Vegas.

By the way, Go Nevada! They're tearing up in the Little League. Kicked the **** out of Chicago. HAHA
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The strategy is, "Keep it simple, Stupid."
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