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ESPN: "A Group of Five program should not be ranked" reference to #23 UCF
ESPN Insider article: Aggies, Rebels aren't top-25 teams
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A Group of Five program should not be ranked, and UCF's bowl win against Baylor is the only reason it is. Quarterback Blake Bortles isn't walking back through that door, folks. Besides the bowl win, the Knights are getting love from the panel for returning 10 defensive starters. But that's from a unit that was only fifth in the American in yards per play (5.35). It isn't exactly Alabama or FSU -- or even TCU, which is ranked behind UCF.

"They're athletic, but so is every team we play," a power-conference assistant said of the Knights' defense.

If Bortles were back, I'd be all about this team as a top-25 choice. But without him, the shoe doesn't fit. Give me a Power Five team with fewer returning starters and 2013 wins -- but more talent. Case in point: Florida would destroy this Central Florida team, and yet UCF is a pick 'em with Penn State in the teams' opener in Ireland. The Knights' stay in the top 25 won't last long.

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RE: ESPN: "A Group of Five program should not be ranked" reference to #23 UCF
(08-13-2014 09:57 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  ESPN Insider article: Aggies, Rebels aren't top-25 teams
http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/travis-h...api_public

Quote:UCF Knights (23)

A Group of Five program should not be ranked, and UCF's bowl win against Baylor is the only reason it is. Quarterback Blake Bortles isn't walking back through that door, folks. Besides the bowl win, the Knights are getting love from the panel for returning 10 defensive starters. But that's from a unit that was only fifth in the American in yards per play (5.35). It isn't exactly Alabama or FSU -- or even TCU, which is ranked behind UCF.

"They're athletic, but so is every team we play," a power-conference assistant said of the Knights' defense.

If Bortles were back, I'd be all about this team as a top-25 choice. But without him, the shoe doesn't fit. Give me a Power Five team with fewer returning starters and 2013 wins -- but more talent. Case in point: Florida would destroy this Central Florida team, and yet UCF is a pick 'em with Penn State in the teams' opener in Ireland. The Knights' stay in the top 25 won't last long.

Twitter: @TravHaneyESPN

WTF!!?

"and UCF's bowl win against Baylor is the only reason it is."

LMAO. That bowl win would be good enough to get any of the programs in the other leagues ranked too!! It was the reigning Big 12 Champion in a BCS game.

UCF was no worse than the second best team in Florida last year. What's this about "talent"?
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RE: ESPN: "A Group of Five program should not be ranked" reference to #23 UCF
(08-13-2014 09:57 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  ESPN Insider article: Aggies, Rebels aren't top-25 teams
http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/travis-h...api_public

Quote:UCF Knights (23)

A Group of Five program should not be ranked, and UCF's bowl win against Baylor is the only reason it is. Quarterback Blake Bortles isn't walking back through that door, folks. Besides the bowl win, the Knights are getting love from the panel for returning 10 defensive starters. But that's from a unit that was only fifth in the American in yards per play (5.35). It isn't exactly Alabama or FSU -- or even TCU, which is ranked behind UCF.

"They're athletic, but so is every team we play," a power-conference assistant said of the Knights' defense.

If Bortles were back, I'd be all about this team as a top-25 choice. But without him, the shoe doesn't fit. Give me a Power Five team with fewer returning starters and 2013 wins -- but more talent. Case in point: Florida would destroy this Central Florida team, and yet UCF is a pick 'em with Penn State in the teams' opener in Ireland. The Knights' stay in the top 25 won't last long.

Twitter: @TravHaneyESPN

Ouch. ESPIN just keeps bringing the hate. I hate them so much.....Can't wait for the person on here to tell me, "the sky is blue" or that there is "water in the ocean" to counter my negative ESPN talk. 04-cheers
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RE: ESPN: "A Group of Five program should not be ranked" reference to #23 UCF
Truth is if an P5 team had beat Baylor in that bowl they would be in the top 15 as long as they returned at least 5 starters.
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UF would beat UCF? lol. Didn't UF lose at home to GSU? Nuff said.
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RE: ESPN: "A Group of Five program should not be ranked" reference to #23 UCF
(08-13-2014 09:57 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  ESPN Insider article: Aggies, Rebels aren't top-25 teams
http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/travis-h...api_public

Quote:UCF Knights (23)

A Group of Five program should not be ranked, and UCF's bowl win against Baylor is the only reason it is. Quarterback Blake Bortles isn't walking back through that door, folks. Besides the bowl win, the Knights are getting love from the panel for returning 10 defensive starters. But that's from a unit that was only fifth in the American in yards per play (5.35). It isn't exactly Alabama or FSU -- or even TCU, which is ranked behind UCF.

"They're athletic, but so is every team we play," a power-conference assistant said of the Knights' defense.

If Bortles were back, I'd be all about this team as a top-25 choice. But without him, the shoe doesn't fit. Give me a Power Five team with fewer returning starters and 2013 wins -- but more talent. Case in point: Florida would destroy this Central Florida team, and yet UCF is a pick 'em with Penn State in the teams' opener in Ireland. The Knights' stay in the top 25 won't last long.

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I expected this sort of stuff a few years from now... "We're better simply becuase we're Power conference schools", (especially if they refuse to play us) but not this early. Man, this is a bad omen. Apparently a magical and immediate transformation occurs when you change conferences! (rolls eyes...)
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(08-13-2014 10:17 AM)Bull Wrote:  I expected this sort of stuff a few years from now... "We're better simply becuase we're Power conference schools", (especially if they refuse to play us) but not this early. Man, this is a bad omen. Apparently a magical and immediate transformation occurs when you change conferences! (rolls eyes...)


Just remember that every idiot with a keyboard can publish his opinion.

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RE: ESPN: "A Group of Five program should not be ranked" reference to #23 UCF
(08-13-2014 09:57 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  ESPN Insider article: Aggies, Rebels aren't top-25 teams
http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/travis-h...api_public

Quote:UCF Knights (23)

A Group of Five program should not be ranked, and UCF's bowl win against Baylor is the only reason it is. Quarterback Blake Bortles isn't walking back through that door, folks. Besides the bowl win, the Knights are getting love from the panel for returning 10 defensive starters. But that's from a unit that was only fifth in the American in yards per play (5.35). It isn't exactly Alabama or FSU -- or even TCU, which is ranked behind UCF.

"They're athletic, but so is every team we play," a power-conference assistant said of the Knights' defense.

If Bortles were back, I'd be all about this team as a top-25 choice. But without him, the shoe doesn't fit. Give me a Power Five team with fewer returning starters and 2013 wins -- but more talent. Case in point: Florida would destroy this Central Florida team, and yet UCF is a pick 'em with Penn State in the teams' opener in Ireland. The Knights' stay in the top 25 won't last long.

Twitter: @TravHaneyESPN

Wasnt sure if this was ESPN or the t-shirt fans in my office...

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You guys need to smash that idiot on twitter.
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(08-13-2014 10:24 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  You guys need to smash that idiot on twitter.

yeah, what a dipshite. why do people even posts opinions of idiots.
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RE: ESPN: "A Group of Five program should not be ranked" reference to #23 UCF
It may perhaps be unfair to hold UCF to a different standard, but UCF will have to prove that last year was NOT a fluke.

Fact: UCF did not dominate the AAC last year. They could have easily lost four or five games.
Fact: UCF lost a lot to graduation and early departures so they have a lot to prove to see if they can replace a Bortles and 3 OL and their starting tailback. GOL knows how to develop OL & RB but kids like Bortles are a rarity
Fact: UCF's defense was 5th in the AAC but the writer is clueless if he thinks that is not a P5 level unit.

Which brings me to my last point: do you really think that ESPN is going to cut the AAC a break if didn't show the old Big East any fairness or respect? It's funny how all the supposedly crappy BE programs like Cuse, Pitt, WVU et al are now considered power schools b/c they got stolen by the ACC. If I was a UCF fan...you have a right to be upset...but you guys and the rest of the AAC will have to prove guys like this wrong.

Instead of responding to his tweets...ignore ppl like that b/f they obviously have an agenda.
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(08-13-2014 11:00 AM)CyberBull Wrote:  It may perhaps unfair to hold UCF to a different standard based on the P5 standards that are more based on TV contracts than play on the field, but UCF will have to prove that last year was NOT a fluke.

Fact: UCF did not dominate the AAC last year. They could have easily lost four or five games.
Fact: UCF lost a lot to graduation and early departure so they have a lot to prove to see if they can replace a Bortles and 3 OL and starting tailback.
Fact: UCF's defense was 5th in the AAC but the writer is clueless if that is not a P5 level unit.
Which brings me to my last point: do you really think that ESPN is going to cut the AAC a break if didn't show the old Big East any fairness?

UCF and the AAC will have to prove guys like this wrong.

Instead of responding to his tweets...ignore ppl like that b/f they obviously have an agenda.

We lost a total of five starters to graduation. We will be fine. The defensive metrics are not based on yards they are based on overall defense. We averaged just over 20 points a game and our overall defense was great. This years team is slated to be even better and actually field a pass rush.
I am sorry but if you don't think last years team doesn't deserve to be ranked you are misguided and a little bit of your green side may be pushing through


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RE: ESPN: "A Group of Five program should not be ranked" reference to #23 UCF
Where does he (cyberbull) say last years UCF doesn't deserve to be ranked. And unless it's some crazy rivalry trolling he agrees that UCF's defense is really good.
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IMHO, he would have said the same kind of thing about Duke. He's an SEC honk. Haters gonna hate. Just pin this drivel to the bulletin board and smash 'em on the field.
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RE: ESPN: "A Group of Five program should not be ranked" reference to #23 UCF
(08-13-2014 11:00 AM)CyberBull Wrote:  It may perhaps be unfair to hold UCF to a different standard, but UCF will have to prove that last year was NOT a fluke.

Fact: UCF did not dominate the AAC last year. They could have easily lost four or five games.
Fact: UCF lost a lot to graduation and early departures so they have a lot to prove to see if they can replace a Bortles and 3 OL and their starting tailback. GOL knows how to develop OL & RB but kids like Bortles are a rarity
Fact: UCF's defense was 5th in the AAC but the writer is clueless if he thinks that is not a P5 level unit.

Which brings me to my last point: do you really think that ESPN is going to cut the AAC a break if didn't show the old Big East any fairness or respect? It's funny how all the supposedly crappy BE programs like Cuse, Pitt, WVU et al are now considered power schools b/c they got stolen by the ACC. If I was a UCF fan...you have a right to be upset...but you guys and the rest of the AAC will have to prove guys like this wrong.

Instead of responding to his tweets...ignore ppl like that b/f they obviously have an agenda.

You would think that they would want to promote the league since they're going to be showing 90% of our games on their networks.
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(08-13-2014 11:42 AM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  Where does he (cyberbull) say last years UCF doesn't deserve to be ranked. And unless it's some crazy rivalry trolling he agrees that UCF's defense is really good.

That's what I was thinking too, DP... All CyberBull is saying is that the AAC has a great squad of football programs who can bring it to any of them (So called
5) too.

Love this "Florida will destroy this UCF team" quote... I bet it was a Florida assistant who said it.
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(08-13-2014 12:02 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  [quote='DowdyPirate' pid='10989354' dateline='1407948158']
Where does he (cyberbull) say last years UCF doesn't deserve to be ranked. And unless it's some crazy rivalry trolling he agrees that UCF's defense is really good.

That's what I was thinking too, DP... All CyberBull is saying is that the AAC has a great squad of football programs who can bring it to any of them (So called
5) too.

Love this "Florida will destroy this UCF team" quote... I bet it was a Florida assistant who said it.
[/quote
Just insert "Baylor" for "Florida" in the above quote, and we've heard it all before. How did that work out?
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RE: ESPN: "A Group of Five program should not be ranked" reference to #23 UCF
(08-13-2014 11:00 AM)CyberBull Wrote:  It may perhaps be unfair to hold UCF to a different standard, but UCF will have to prove that last year was NOT a fluke.

Fact: UCF did not dominate the AAC last year. They could have easily lost four or five games.
Fact: UCF lost a lot to graduation and early departures so they have a lot to prove to see if they can replace a Bortles and 3 OL and their starting tailback. GOL knows how to develop OL & RB but kids like Bortles are a rarity
Fact: UCF's defense was 5th in the AAC but the writer is clueless if he thinks that is not a P5 level unit.

Which brings me to my last point: do you really think that ESPN is going to cut the AAC a break if didn't show the old Big East any fairness or respect? It's funny how all the supposedly crappy BE programs like Cuse, Pitt, WVU et al are now considered power schools b/c they got stolen by the ACC. If I was a UCF fan...you have a right to be upset...but you guys and the rest of the AAC will have to prove guys like this wrong.

Instead of responding to his tweets...ignore ppl like that b/f they obviously have an agenda.

Bro, he didn't say that 2014 UCF doesn't deserved to be ranked. He said a "Group of five program should not be ranked." As in, a categorical statement. As in, the merits (which you are suggesting we factor in) have nothing to do with it.

That's an absurd and dumb thing to say.

And the reality is that much of online sports journalism today is completely unedited. If this was 20 years ago and this was a column in the paper, this would have been sent back to him with a "give me a break" from his editor. But with the internet, sports journalism has become more like talk radio, where being snarky and obnoxious and angering people is a win/win proposition.
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(08-13-2014 12:11 PM)NestaKnight1 Wrote:  
(08-13-2014 12:02 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  [quote='DowdyPirate' pid='10989354' dateline='1407948158']
Where does he (cyberbull) say last years UCF doesn't deserve to be ranked. And unless it's some crazy rivalry trolling he agrees that UCF's defense is really good.

That's what I was thinking too, DP... All CyberBull is saying is that the AAC has a great squad of football programs who can bring it to any of them (So called
5) too.

Love this "Florida will destroy this UCF team" quote... I bet it was a Florida assistant who said it.
[/quote
Just insert "Baylor" for "Florida" in the above quote, and we've heard it all before. How did that work out?

I think the so called p5 and the Plus One Conference (AAC) are going at each others throat to get a CFP spot... That's all.
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