While I am not sure UCF is a top 25 team, I do believe by the end of the season this conference will have at least two ranked teams. The quote in the title "A Group of Five program should not ranked" is a sad joke. Teams should be ranked on the merit not conference affiliation.

I love idiots like these. Last year guys like this didn't know who Blake Bortles was, they also said UCF had no chance against Baylor, and I mean zero. Fortunately for us games are played on the field not paper. If team talent was an indicator of teams success on the field Michigan and Texas would've been bcs teams. These are the types of people who passed on guys like Blake to go for guys like Driskell. I'm not saying UCF will replicate last years success, fact is I don't know if they will. To make such a sweeping statement based on his apparent lack of information is beyond moronic.

We also need to beat the drum and remind everyone on any board/forum when posting that the AAC is The Plus One Conference and not one of those LITTLE G conferences.

(08-13-2014 11:42 AM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  Where does he (cyberbull) say last years UCF doesn't deserve to be ranked. And unless it's some crazy rivalry trolling he agrees that UCF's defense is really good.

He implied last year was a fluke


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(08-13-2014 12:34 PM)bearcatlawjd Wrote:  While I am not sure UCF is a top 25 team, I do believe by the end of the season this conference will have at least two ranked teams. The quote in the title "A Group of Five program should not ranked" is a sad joke. Teams should be ranked on the merit not conference affiliation.

P5 = talent, didn't you get the memo? If a recruit chooses UCF over GT or UC over Purdue, he's suddenly not as "talented" as the kid GT or Purdue scrambled to find to replace him. Let's not even get into what they make of themselves once they get on campus.

It's funny to me what a house of cards it is. It's a multi-billion dollar business, whose lifeblood hinges on the decisions and work ethic of 18 year old kids.

I love it! Battle lines being drawn and the season is about to begin. We just have to prove it as a conference. This is a big season for our teams and the AAC.

(08-13-2014 11:55 AM)SteveUCF19 Wrote:  

(08-13-2014 11:00 AM)CyberBull Wrote:  It may perhaps be unfair to hold UCF to a different standard, but UCF will have to prove that last year was NOT a fluke.

Fact: UCF did not dominate the AAC last year. They could have easily lost four or five games.
Fact: UCF lost a lot to graduation and early departures so they have a lot to prove to see if they can replace a Bortles and 3 OL and their starting tailback. GOL knows how to develop OL & RB but kids like Bortles are a rarity
Fact: UCF's defense was 5th in the AAC but the writer is clueless if he thinks that is not a P5 level unit.

Which brings me to my last point: do you really think that ESPN is going to cut the AAC a break if didn't show the old Big East any fairness or respect? It's funny how all the supposedly crappy BE programs like Cuse, Pitt, WVU et al are now considered power schools b/c they got stolen by the ACC. If I was a UCF fan...you have a right to be upset...but you guys and the rest of the AAC will have to prove guys like this wrong.

Instead of responding to his tweets...ignore ppl like that b/f they obviously have an agenda.

You would think that they would want to promote the league since they're going to be showing 90% of our games on their networks.

Great point...and the big mystery to me at least. Why would they intentionally marginalize their own product?

Unless they view their $25-million/year TV contract commitment as just the cost of doing business to keep our games away from a competitor, ie NBC. Who knows if they really have an agenda...but they surely do let their "journalist" take aim at the AAC almost without limitation.

I don't expect ESPN to give us SEC like treatment....but they seemingly go out their way to dump on the AAC and member schools.

(08-13-2014 12:57 PM)Knightbengal Wrote:  

(08-13-2014 11:42 AM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  Where does he (cyberbull) say last years UCF doesn't deserve to be ranked. And unless it's some crazy rivalry trolling he agrees that UCF's defense is really good.

He implied last year was a fluke


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You missed my point.

I'll re-state more clearly, if UCF does have a bad year then media honks like this guy will dismiss last year as a fluke.


He would then cite all the 'facts' to make his argument. I think that is a crock of an argument b/c every year should stand alone, especially in college football where you are guaranteed to have significant roster turnover every year. What UCF did last year was special and I can admit that even as a USF fan. It was a great run but more importantly demonstrates what a quality supposed non-P5 team can accomplish. So even if UCF does tank this year...and there are objective arguments about why this COULD happen....it shouldn't diminish the quality of this year's league champion....b/c as you guys proved last season our champion can play with the best.

Stop being so freaking sensitive...

(08-13-2014 12:43 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  Fortunately for us games are played on the field not paper.

These guys are doing their best to make it so that there are no games between the P5 and G5 so that it's impossible to prove them wrong. They want CFB to become WWE where the most popular team always wins.

Looks like Aresco was making a little too much headway into his 'AAC is a Power Conference' spiel for ESPN's liking.

(08-13-2014 01:06 PM)CyberBull Wrote:  

(08-13-2014 11:55 AM)SteveUCF19 Wrote:  

(08-13-2014 11:00 AM)CyberBull Wrote:  It may perhaps be unfair to hold UCF to a different standard, but UCF will have to prove that last year was NOT a fluke.

Fact: UCF did not dominate the AAC last year. They could have easily lost four or five games.
Fact: UCF lost a lot to graduation and early departures so they have a lot to prove to see if they can replace a Bortles and 3 OL and their starting tailback. GOL knows how to develop OL & RB but kids like Bortles are a rarity
Fact: UCF's defense was 5th in the AAC but the writer is clueless if he thinks that is not a P5 level unit.

Which brings me to my last point: do you really think that ESPN is going to cut the AAC a break if didn't show the old Big East any fairness or respect? It's funny how all the supposedly crappy BE programs like Cuse, Pitt, WVU et al are now considered power schools b/c they got stolen by the ACC. If I was a UCF fan...you have a right to be upset...but you guys and the rest of the AAC will have to prove guys like this wrong.

Instead of responding to his tweets...ignore ppl like that b/f they obviously have an agenda.

You would think that they would want to promote the league since they're going to be showing 90% of our games on their networks.

Great point...and the big mystery to me at least. Why would they intentionally marginalize their own product?

Unless they view their $25-million/year TV contract commitment as just the cost of doing business to keep our games away from a competitor, ie NBC. Who knows if they really have an agenda...but they surely do let their "journalist" take aim at the AAC almost without limitation.

I don't expect ESPN to give us SEC like treatment....but they seemingly go out their way to dump on the AAC and member schools.

they are making tons of money off the AAC. they pay us penny's on the dollar that they earn. its to their advantage to continue to downplay us, so come renewal time, it will continue to keep the price down. they are happy earning maximum investment from us and keeping it status quo.

"An ACC program should not be ranked in the top 5, and FSU's National Championship is the only reason it is."

I paraphrase, of course. The AAC is not the only conference ESPN regularly hates upon...

"The top 25 should just be SEC teams"

(08-13-2014 10:20 AM)megadrone Wrote:  

(08-13-2014 10:17 AM)Bull Wrote:  I expected this sort of stuff a few years from now... "We're better simply becuase we're Power conference schools", (especially if they refuse to play us) but not this early. Man, this is a bad omen. Apparently a magical and immediate transformation occurs when you change conferences! (rolls eyes...)

Just remember that every idiot with a keyboard can publish his opinion.

So maybe I shouldn't give mine at this point of time?

btw i'll be rooting for you guys in the b1g, the league is overated and you'll do fine, gl.

I just sent him some words on the twittah.. lol

(08-13-2014 02:09 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  "The top 25 should just be SEC teams"

-ESPN August 18th, 2018.

Post of the Week....and not the far from reality. LOL

(08-13-2014 01:53 PM)otown Wrote:  

(08-13-2014 01:06 PM)CyberBull Wrote:  

(08-13-2014 11:55 AM)SteveUCF19 Wrote:  

(08-13-2014 11:00 AM)CyberBull Wrote:  It may perhaps be unfair to hold UCF to a different standard, but UCF will have to prove that last year was NOT a fluke.

Fact: UCF did not dominate the AAC last year. They could have easily lost four or five games.
Fact: UCF lost a lot to graduation and early departures so they have a lot to prove to see if they can replace a Bortles and 3 OL and their starting tailback. GOL knows how to develop OL & RB but kids like Bortles are a rarity
Fact: UCF's defense was 5th in the AAC but the writer is clueless if he thinks that is not a P5 level unit.

Which brings me to my last point: do you really think that ESPN is going to cut the AAC a break if didn't show the old Big East any fairness or respect? It's funny how all the supposedly crappy BE programs like Cuse, Pitt, WVU et al are now considered power schools b/c they got stolen by the ACC. If I was a UCF fan...you have a right to be upset...but you guys and the rest of the AAC will have to prove guys like this wrong.

Instead of responding to his tweets...ignore ppl like that b/f they obviously have an agenda.

You would think that they would want to promote the league since they're going to be showing 90% of our games on their networks.

Great point...and the big mystery to me at least. Why would they intentionally marginalize their own product?

Unless they view their $25-million/year TV contract commitment as just the cost of doing business to keep our games away from a competitor, ie NBC. Who knows if they really have an agenda...but they surely do let their "journalist" take aim at the AAC almost without limitation.

I don't expect ESPN to give us SEC like treatment....but they seemingly go out their way to dump on the AAC and member schools.

they are making tons of money off the AAC. they pay us penny's on the dollar that they earn. its to their advantage to continue to downplay us, so come renewal time, it will continue to keep the price down. they are happy earning maximum investment from us and keeping it status quo.

Scary but salient comment. There are no market forces at work here to assist us. We tried to shop ourselves around and got nowhere. ESPN is under no pressure to pay us more, simply becuase we are having success. There are significant exposure benefits to being on ESPN, so in a practical sense we have no where else to go. What we really need is some bona fide competition for ESPN to materialize.

(08-13-2014 12:43 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  I love idiots like these. Last year guys like this didn't know who Blake Bortles was, they also said UCF had no chance against Baylor, and I mean zero. Fortunately for us games are played on the field not paper. If team talent was an indicator of teams success on the field Michigan and Texas would've been bcs teams. These are the types of people who passed on guys like Blake to go for guys like Driskell. I'm not saying UCF will replicate last years success, fact is I don't know if they will. To make such a sweeping statement based on his apparent lack of information is beyond moronic.

At least he is not NC States A.D. She just had a press release on future schedules and it included games with the WAC in football!

(08-13-2014 02:09 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  "The top 25 should just be SEC teams"

-ESPN August 18th, 2018.

Lmfao...

(08-13-2014 02:05 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  "An ACC program should not be ranked in the top 5, and FSU's National Championship is the only reason it is."

I paraphrase, of course. The AAC is not the only conference ESPN regularly hates upon...

yup...the ACC gets crapped on too

I hate espn...but they are THE channel to be on so what do you do? Sucks...