(08-13-2014 01:21 PM)_C2_ Wrote: I think he's saying that to the average, ignorant Wal-Mart T-short fan, there's no difference between UCF and Georgia State, allowing that UCF doesn't keep it's current momentum. Sad but true.
The same could be said about any school that is not Alabama, Notre Dame, Ohio State , Oregon, LSU, or USC. Outside of these schools, the fans that you are speaking about don't know exist for the most part.
I don't buy that the majority of people who follow College Sports don't understand the pecking order that exists.
As a pure sports fan, the thought that Georgia State, a bottom feeder in their own conference, is on par with the schools in the AAC is laughable.
The question posed at the start of this thread was which teams give up first. I think Georgia State among others is a logical answer.
Not really. You could ask 10 random people that watch college football down here what conference ECU is in and they wouldn't have a clue. There's the SEC, the ACC, The Pac 12, Big 10, Big 12, Boise State and then everyone else. Now basketball on the other hand, yea, teams like Cinci, Memphis, and UConn are going to be held in a much higher regard than say... a Georgia State. But football? If it isn't in your region and you aren't a P5 or a BCS buster then people equally don't care for the most part. To be honest, if I didn't follow boards like this one what are the odds you think i'd know what conference Houston or Tulane are in without looking it up? And that's no disrespect to either but it just is what it is.
What team do you follow? I am willing to bet that unless you follow one of the top 10 or so teams in the country that the majority of people could not tell you what conference most teams play for. People in general do not follow conferences, they follow teams.
Almost every team in the AAC is recognizable around the country by College Sports football fans. How many however, even know that Georgia State even has a football team? Probably very few.
How is that different than what we just said? And people here follow the SEC and then secondly the SEC and then the ACC.
(08-13-2014 01:21 PM)_C2_ Wrote: I think he's saying that to the average, ignorant Wal-Mart T-short fan, there's no difference between UCF and Georgia State, allowing that UCF doesn't keep it's current momentum. Sad but true.
The same could be said about any school that is not Alabama, Notre Dame, Ohio State , Oregon, LSU, or USC. Outside of these schools, the fans that you are speaking about don't know exist for the most part.
I don't buy that the majority of people who follow College Sports don't understand the pecking order that exists.
As a pure sports fan, the thought that Georgia State, a bottom feeder in their own conference, is on par with the schools in the AAC is laughable.
The question posed at the start of this thread was which teams give up first. I think Georgia State among others is a logical answer.
Um have you included Bowl matchups, TV exposure, buyouts and NCAA credits in your Georgia State vs AAC analysis? Not to mention in NOLA a few days ago Aresco publicly stated that the TV contract needs to be renegotiated as the original timing came at a time of great confusion and weakness.
(08-13-2014 01:21 PM)_C2_ Wrote: I think he's saying that to the average, ignorant Wal-Mart T-short fan, there's no difference between UCF and Georgia State, allowing that UCF doesn't keep it's current momentum. Sad but true.
The same could be said about any school that is not Alabama, Notre Dame, Ohio State , Oregon, LSU, or USC. Outside of these schools, the fans that you are speaking about don't know exist for the most part.
I don't buy that the majority of people who follow College Sports don't understand the pecking order that exists.
As a pure sports fan, the thought that Georgia State, a bottom feeder in their own conference, is on par with the schools in the AAC is laughable.
The question posed at the start of this thread was which teams give up first. I think Georgia State among others is a logical answer.
Not really. You could ask 10 random people that watch college football down here what conference ECU is in and they wouldn't have a clue. There's the SEC, the ACC, The Pac 12, Big 10, Big 12, Boise State and then everyone else. Now basketball on the other hand, yea, teams like Cinci, Memphis, and UConn are going to be held in a much higher regard than say... a Georgia State. But football? If it isn't in your region and you aren't a P5 or a BCS buster then people equally don't care for the most part. To be honest, if I didn't follow boards like this one what are the odds you think i'd know what conference Houston or Tulane are in without looking it up? And that's no disrespect to either but it just is what it is.
Very sad but essentially very true
Ha, ha, I am enjoying this thread immensely, especially hearing about the excellent state of affairs that is Ga State Football. I lived in Atlanta for many years, so you can appreciate how much I love hearing your narrative about Ga State sports and how it relates to the schools in the AAC. Please, do go on.
So then having lived here you know that for most people in the deep South anything other than the P5 is Div II in their minds
(08-13-2014 01:21 PM)_C2_ Wrote: I think he's saying that to the average, ignorant Wal-Mart T-short fan, there's no difference between UCF and Georgia State, allowing that UCF doesn't keep it's current momentum. Sad but true.
The same could be said about any school that is not Alabama, Notre Dame, Ohio State , Oregon, LSU, or USC. Outside of these schools, the fans that you are speaking about don't know exist for the most part.
I don't buy that the majority of people who follow College Sports don't understand the pecking order that exists.
As a pure sports fan, the thought that Georgia State, a bottom feeder in their own conference, is on par with the schools in the AAC is laughable.
The question posed at the start of this thread was which teams give up first. I think Georgia State among others is a logical answer.
Not really. You could ask 10 random people that watch college football down here what conference ECU is in and they wouldn't have a clue. There's the SEC, the ACC, The Pac 12, Big 10, Big 12, Boise State and then everyone else. Now basketball on the other hand, yea, teams like Cinci, Memphis, and UConn are going to be held in a much higher regard than say... a Georgia State. But football? If it isn't in your region and you aren't a P5 or a BCS buster then people equally don't care for the most part. To be honest, if I didn't follow boards like this one what are the odds you think i'd know what conference Houston or Tulane are in without looking it up? And that's no disrespect to either but it just is what it is.
What team do you follow? I am willing to bet that unless you follow one of the top 10 or so teams in the country that the majority of people could not tell you what conference most teams play for. People in general do not follow conferences, they follow teams.
Almost every team in the AAC is recognizable around the country by College Sports football fans. How many however, even know that Georgia State even has a football team? Probably very few.
(08-13-2014 06:37 AM)panama Wrote: Loving how this has turned into G5 fans shooting at each other as P5 looks at us from above .
"They are so small"
There is a Hugh difference between Ga State and the teams in the AAC. Not really an"us" as there are different layers to all of the conferences. I think it could be argued that we are in large part in the mess we are in because of new schools like Ga State, trying to cash in on the FBS money tree. I can't blame folkes for not wanting to share revenue or wanting to give these schools say over how they do business. I certainly don't think ECU should be held back because of the limitations of these new start up schools.
No there isnt or you would be a P6 conference. And LOL at blaming startups for this mess as if ECU hasnt been trying to cash in for 15 years.
don't blame ECU for being a start up school when other AAC schools fit that mold better. UCF and USF are the 2 start up schools that didn't play d-1 football until the late 90's. Heck, USF didn't even have any type of football team at all until 15 years ago. The big east lost all credibility when they invited a 3 year old program into their league after the 3 defections 10 years ago.
(08-13-2014 01:21 PM)_C2_ Wrote: I think he's saying that to the average, ignorant Wal-Mart T-short fan, there's no difference between UCF and Georgia State, allowing that UCF doesn't keep it's current momentum. Sad but true.
The same could be said about any school that is not Alabama, Notre Dame, Ohio State , Oregon, LSU, or USC. Outside of these schools, the fans that you are speaking about don't know exist for the most part.
I don't buy that the majority of people who follow College Sports don't understand the pecking order that exists.
As a pure sports fan, the thought that Georgia State, a bottom feeder in their own conference, is on par with the schools in the AAC is laughable.
The question posed at the start of this thread was which teams give up first. I think Georgia State among others is a logical answer.
Not really. You could ask 10 random people that watch college football down here what conference ECU is in and they wouldn't have a clue. There's the SEC, the ACC, The Pac 12, Big 10, Big 12, Boise State and then everyone else. Now basketball on the other hand, yea, teams like Cinci, Memphis, and UConn are going to be held in a much higher regard than say... a Georgia State. But football? If it isn't in your region and you aren't a P5 or a BCS buster then people equally don't care for the most part. To be honest, if I didn't follow boards like this one what are the odds you think i'd know what conference Houston or Tulane are in without looking it up? And that's no disrespect to either but it just is what it is.
What team do you follow? I am willing to bet that unless you follow one of the top 10 or so teams in the country that the majority of people could not tell you what conference most teams play for. People in general do not follow conferences, they follow teams.
Almost every team in the AAC is recognizable around the country by College Sports football fans. How many however, even know that Georgia State even has a football team? Probably very few.
Knowledgeable football fans do!
You must really have a very sad life to keep coming here. Mods, honest question and I am not trying to be disrespectful to the job you guys do, but why does this guy get to keep coming to board and adding the types of comments that he adds. What is the criteria for banning someone? His school hit the jock pot and has left the struggle we are facing, so to come here with his comments imo,is nothing more than trolling those on this board.
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All I will say is this. Georgia state is 15 years behind the rest of us. Talk to us in 15 years. Until then enjoy the process and when you win a bcs bowl or someone knows your name come talk to us. The casual football fan most likely is aware of ucf. That is not true of Georgia state. Your program and your brethren are just not there yet. Geez Louise denial isn't getting you anywhere
Georgia State should check back in with us when they don't have to drop cash from the ceiling to get people to come to their games. The good news for them is that with the new CFB payout they'll be able to do this more often.
(08-13-2014 07:39 PM)blunderbuss Wrote: Georgia State should check back in with us when they don't have to drop cash from the ceiling to get people to come to their games. The good news for them is that with the new CFB payout they'll be able to do this more often.
#welfarequeens
how many of those were recruits....not a bad idea... just sayin
(08-13-2014 07:39 PM)blunderbuss Wrote: Georgia State should check back in with us when they don't have to drop cash from the ceiling to get people to come to their games. The good news for them is that with the new CFB payout they'll be able to do this more often.
#welfarequeens
Now post one of our MBB team playing Globetrotters to your Generals.
(08-13-2014 08:08 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote: look...GA State isn't on par with the AAC...not in revenues, season tix, quality of program, attendance, etc. It is what it is.
That was never the question. The question is are you on par with the P5?
(08-13-2014 08:08 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote: look...GA State isn't on par with the AAC...not in revenues, season tix, quality of program, attendance, etc. It is what it is.
That was never the question. The question is are you on par with the P5?
Depends on the "who" is...UC and UCONN both have revenues in the low 60's, on par with lower end of the P5. So yes, UC and UCONN are.
(08-13-2014 07:39 PM)blunderbuss Wrote: Georgia State should check back in with us when they don't have to drop cash from the ceiling to get people to come to their games. The good news for them is that with the new CFB payout they'll be able to do this more often.
#welfarequeens
Now post one of our MBB team playing Globetrotters to your Generals.
First of all what has Georgia State ever done in any sport? A second point is that Georgia State just lost to ECU in basketball in 2012 and the game was at Georgia State; so what is this Globetrotting crap that you wrote about? So are you saying that Georgia State beat ECU in 2013? Big deal! Did Georgia State with a roster full of transfers like mentally soft Ryan Harrow actually make the NCAA tournament? The answer to that is Hell No. So why are you bragging about Georgia State basketball like they are some kind of basketball powerhouse?
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(08-13-2014 01:21 PM)_C2_ Wrote: I think he's saying that to the average, ignorant Wal-Mart T-short fan, there's no difference between UCF and Georgia State, allowing that UCF doesn't keep it's current momentum. Sad but true.
hey, no reason to drag louiseville fans into this debate
(08-13-2014 07:39 PM)blunderbuss Wrote: Georgia State should check back in with us when they don't have to drop cash from the ceiling to get people to come to their games. The good news for them is that with the new CFB payout they'll be able to do this more often.
#welfarequeens
Now post one of our MBB team playing Globetrotters to your Generals.
First of all what has Georgia State ever done in any sport? A second point is that Georgia State just lost to ECU in basketball in 2012 and the game was at Georgia State; so what is this Globetrotting crap that you wrote about? So are you saying that Georgia State beat ECU in 2013? Big deal! Did Georgia State with a roster full of transfers like mentally soft Ryan Harrow actually make the NCAA tournament? The answer to that is Hell No. So why are you bragging about Georgia State basketball like they are some kind of basketball powerhouse?
Because they are? :D
We cant even get anyone to come play us OOC this year. But that's another story.
(08-13-2014 08:08 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote: look...GA State isn't on par with the AAC...not in revenues, season tix, quality of program, attendance, etc. It is what it is.
That was never the question. The question is are you on par with the P5?
Depends on the "who" is...UC and UCONN both have revenues in the low 60's, on par with lower end of the P5. So yes, UC and UCONN are.
Right but 80% of the conference is not. As C2 said, I am just being realistic here. The average fan, the majority of fans dont see these schools as big schools. It ticks me off too believe me , but its exactly where we are. I bear no malice to any AAC (even ECU ) but the subject of this thread was pretty inflammatory given where we all are today. But any nobody gonna break my stride today. I have a 10 am press conference to watch today announcing our new AD. Not giving up today :D
(08-13-2014 08:08 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote: look...GA State isn't on par with the AAC...not in revenues, season tix, quality of program, attendance, etc. It is what it is.
That was never the question. The question is are you on par with the P5?
Depends on the "who" is...UC and UCONN both have revenues in the low 60's, on par with lower end of the P5. So yes, UC and UCONN are.
Right but 80% of the conference is not. As C2 said, I am just being realistic here. The average fan, the majority of fans dont see these schools as big schools. It ticks me off too believe me , but its exactly where we are. I bear no malice to any AAC (even ECU ) but the subject of this thread was pretty inflammatory given where we all are today. But any nobody gonna break my stride today. I have a 10 am press conference to watch today announcing our new AD. Not giving up today :D
Um, did you read the article from Barhart's piece in the AJC?, he specifically mentions Ga State as a school that he thinks will not survive in the new landscape of College Football, exactly what some on the board have been saying. You can try to group us all together, but it is simply not accurate.
Knowledgeable football fans do! 
) but the subject of this thread was pretty inflammatory given where we all are today. But any nobody gonna break my stride today. I have a 10 am press conference to watch today announcing our new AD. Not giving up today :D