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Even though this story is just centered around a poll...it is interesting to see where certain coaches stand on this topic. By the year 2020 I feel there will be a vastly different look and feel to college football, with the other revenue generating sports not far behind.

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08-07-2014 09:46 AM
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Quote:Arizona's Rich Rodriguez, the lone dissenting Pac-12 coach, said "some of those [non-Power Five teams] are better than the so-called 'haves' [Power Five teams]."
08-07-2014 09:53 AM
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That's because RichRod is going to end up out of the power five in a few years. He wants a good place to land.
08-07-2014 10:30 AM
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Am I the only one that finds it funny that these schools and conferences are putting all of their eggs in the basket of the sport that's likely to go extinct first?
08-07-2014 10:37 AM
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I don't think P5 conference teams should play 1-AA schools anymore. Definitely not 2 like some schools do, but never playing schools from non-P5 conferences hurts College sports to much. P5 schools need to play non-P5 schools from atleast their own state. The schools and states need the revenue all around.
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Would hate to see the days of taking a shot at BCS schools come to an end. I'm sure some of our favorite memories include wins (or nail-biters) against the 'big boys.' Not to mention that those paydays help the accountants' bottom lines.

But if that ever comes to pass, then schedule nothing but home-and-home agreements with CUSA, AAC, MWC, etc., which actually won't be half-bad in itself. Seeing a Cincinnati, Fresno State or even Marshall at Waldo can still be fun.
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How are half the teams in power 5 conferences ever going to get to bowl games and stay employed if they can't find 3-4 wins OOC every season?

Wake Forest, Mississippi State, Minnesota, Arizona, etc... might never see 6 wins again.
08-07-2014 12:09 PM
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Potentially VERY interesting things to come from this decision.

If these conferences can "make their own rules", pay for play is on the table. Basically, forming a separate sub division of college athletics is on the table. Locking out the non power 5 altogether from tournaments and championship opportunities etc. Recruiting advantages.

I DO think that with the new 4 team playoff format that we are eventually going to see teams need to play tougher OOC opponents early in an attempt to help strength of schedule. Ultimately, that is going to hurt the mid level guys like us. No more paycheck games 3 times in the OOC.

IMO, this is a HUGE and potentially terrible decision for the NCAA.
08-07-2014 01:34 PM
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I hope it goes this way. Take the sleight of hand out of the landscape.

Then I think it'll all collapse and something better will come from the ashes. Talking a decade tops.
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(08-07-2014 01:34 PM)WheresWaldo42 Wrote:  Potentially VERY interesting things to come from this decision.

If these conferences can "make their own rules", pay for play is on the table. Basically, forming a separate sub division of college athletics is on the table. Locking out the non power 5 altogether from tournaments and championship opportunities etc. Recruiting advantages.

I DO think that with the new 4 team playoff format that we are eventually going to see teams need to play tougher OOC opponents early in an attempt to help strength of schedule. Ultimately, that is going to hurt the mid level guys like us. No more paycheck games 3 times in the OOC.

IMO, this is a HUGE and potentially terrible decision for the NCAA.

The big fear I have is if they move away from the 85 scholarship limit. Title IX is still on the books (although SCOTUS might be willing to scrap it at the rate they're going) but with the amount of revenue they have coming in and with the potential they have to control more i.e. the NCAA basketball tournament, they could easily afford 10-15 more football scholarships and the requisite increase to women's sports.
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It'd be the unlimited scholarship days all over again
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(08-07-2014 01:58 PM)SilentStryk09 Wrote:  It'd be the unlimited scholarship days all over again

Paying players and unlimited schollys will come first.

I hope they don't plan on playing schools outside of the top 5.
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(08-07-2014 01:58 PM)SilentStryk09 Wrote:  It'd be the unlimited scholarship days all over again

Then it becomes all about transfers for the rest of us.
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Also just read this, makes me feel a little better but not much

Areas that will not fall under the autonomy umbrella include postseason tournaments, transfer policies, scholarship limits, signing day and rules governing on-the-field play.
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Ok that isn't so bad then. The low end of the power 5 schools probably benefit most from the 85 rule any way. A quasi salary cap for them. And they aren't going to kill the NCAA tournament anytime soon. I can live with them doing things above board that we always knew they were doing under the table.
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Don't over react, this is just a way to start paying players, that schools like ours just can't do. It also is designed to help protect the NCAA from possible litigation.
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(08-07-2014 02:54 PM)Doo Wrote:  Don't over react, this is just a way to start paying players, that schools like ours just can't do. It also is designed to help protect the NCAA from possible litigation.

The only thing that worries me is the precedent it sets. Everything I've seen reported says this was basically something the power 5 demanded to prevent them from breaking away. What's to stop them from doing the same thing about the things they "can't touch" just yet?

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(08-07-2014 02:24 PM)SilentStryk09 Wrote:  Also just read this, makes me feel a little better but not much

Areas that will not fall under the autonomy umbrella include postseason tournaments, transfer policies, scholarship limits, signing day and rules governing on-the-field play.

Only a matter of time. They'll get those handled down the road. This is the first step.
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If you want to see only true amateur, "collegiate model" athletics, you have to go to D-III or possibly Ivy League events.

NCAA vote reminds me of "Peace in our time" (Neville Chamberlain).

Read Bill Snyder's quotes from Wednesday on state of college athletics.
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(08-07-2014 12:09 PM)Liam9903 Wrote:  How are half the teams in power 5 conferences ever going to get to bowl games and stay employed if they can't find 3-4 wins OOC every season?

Wake Forest, Mississippi State, Minnesota, Arizona, etc... might never see 6 wins again.

Agreed. You can say that about the bottom half teams, in most of those P5 Conferences.
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