On 30 August the Cajuns will host Southern University while Louisiana Tech University at Ruston (LTU-R) will travel to play Oklahoma.

Obviously, I expect the Cajuns to fare better with Southern than LTU-R to fare with Oklahoma as the Sooners are ranked as one of the top teams in the country. These opening games set the stage for a hate-meeting at Cajun Field the following week with LTU-R.

Here's the question.

Under such a scenario, will the Cajun coaching staff intentionally not run certain plays on offense in the Southern game in order to deny the coaching staff of LTU-R a chance to see our complete offensive scheme?

(08-06-2014 07:34 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  On 30 August the Cajuns will host Southern University while Louisiana Tech University at Ruston (LTU-R) will travel to play Oklahoma.

Obviously, I expect the Cajuns to fare better with Southern than LTU-R to fare with Oklahoma as the Sooners are ranked as one of the top teams in the country. These opening games set the stage for a hate-meeting at Cajun Field the following week with LTU-R.

Here's the question.

Under such a scenario, will the Cajun coaching staff intentionally not run certain plays on offense in the Southern game in order to deny the coaching staff of LTU-R a chance to see our complete offensive scheme?

HUD will play very close to vest with base defense,little blitzing and vanilla offense.Timing routes to outside /screen plays should rule the pass plays

Hud can play it close to the vest against Southern and still should win by a pretty good margin. Southern is much better than they were in 2009 but the Cajuns are LIGHT YEARS better compared to then also.

We have played several SWAC opponents in recent history and yes, you usually don't run anything but a very vanilla offense and defense in those games. I don't think it would be different if you were playing Central Michigan the next week instead of the #4 team in LA.

(08-06-2014 08:13 AM)Crump1 Wrote:  We have played several SWAC opponents in recent history and yes, you usually don't run anything but a very vanilla offense and defense in those games. I don't think it would be different if you were playing Central Michigan the next week instead of the #4 team in LA.

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(08-06-2014 08:50 AM)Vobserver Wrote:  

(08-06-2014 08:13 AM)Crump1 Wrote:  We have played several SWAC opponents in recent history and yes, you usually don't run anything but a very vanilla offense and defense in those games. I don't think it would be different if you were playing Central Michigan the next week instead of the #4 team in LA.

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Debatable, VO. We will know after the second week of the season.

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(08-06-2014 08:56 AM)BamaCajun Wrote:  

(08-06-2014 08:50 AM)Vobserver Wrote:  

(08-06-2014 08:13 AM)Crump1 Wrote:  We have played several SWAC opponents in recent history and yes, you usually don't run anything but a very vanilla offense and defense in those games. I don't think it would be different if you were playing Central Michigan the next week instead of the #4 team in LA.

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Debatable, VO. We will know after the second week of the season.

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4-8 last year in the worst conference in FBS. Same coach, pretty much the same players. Now, they DO have a history of either being pretty darn good or just putrid. I suppose they could pull one of the PDG years out of the hat this time around, but I doubt it.

Bury the playbook.

You probably run a lot of the favorite plays from last year, just save the 'Statue of Liberty' for Ruston.

(08-06-2014 08:50 AM)Vobserver Wrote:  

(08-06-2014 08:13 AM)Crump1 Wrote:  We have played several SWAC opponents in recent history and yes, you usually don't run anything but a very vanilla offense and defense in those games. I don't think it would be different if you were playing Central Michigan the next week instead of the #4 team in LA.

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It is not a question of showing your hand. Generally, you are developing and changing plays throughout the season based upon the health, proficiency and availability of your players.

Offense is based on timing therefore the ability to run full tilt in a real game situation in valuable. This does not mean a successful play against Southern would work against La Tech. The question is whether you can actually run the play against Southern.

Assuming your talent level is superior, you should have great success from your first and second teams in these "body bag" games. If you don't, then it means you have a lot of work to do the week before La Tech.

I'm just happy to know that somebody else uses LSUATCBR.

To answer the OP, you can better your bottom dollar that he will hide many offensive plays as well as most defensive schemes.

Expect some complex defensive schemes to be used against Southern, so the defense can get realgane experience before the Tech. But after that, very vanilla defense.

You might see Hud show one or two little things that he knows he wont show against Tech, just to give the defense something to spend extra time preparing for. Malzahn was famous for that ASU, he'd run a play week two, that we'd never run again the rest of the season, but every coach the rest of the season saw it, and had to spend time preparing for it.

One thing to consider is that it is the first game of the year. It won't be a tepid display. You don't want a big game to be the very first time a number of your kids run certain things at game speed.

What I've seen of AState playing SWAC teams is you run a few plays because you haven't been happy with the execution in practice and want to run it in a game situation. Early on you play the game straight up, if they crowd the line you try to punish it. If they are playing conservative you work underneath, you want the QB making the reads and checks just as always.

You throw in a gadget or something odd just to get it out there.

Sometime early 3Q you have most the starters on the sidelines and the 2's and 3's work on the base offense and defense.

Hopefully, Tech will review a couple of Cajun games from last year. Pretty much the same team and coaching staff right?

I know nothing about the installation process in college and I guess they probably do most of that in the spring. That being said, in high school the gameplan usually isn't vanilla in non-district play due to coaches not wanting to show their hand but because it's early in the season and play installation takes a while.

(08-06-2014 02:29 PM)T_Won1 Wrote:  Hopefully, Tech will review a couple of Cajun games from last year. Pretty much the same team and coaching staff right?

Actually no. We have only 3 starters returning on offense, 2 on defense and Hud is there only on an interim basis. Former trainers are acting as assistant coaches until a new coach can be named.

Pass that along to Holtz and company.

(08-06-2014 09:25 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(08-06-2014 08:50 AM)Vobserver Wrote:  

(08-06-2014 08:13 AM)Crump1 Wrote:  We have played several SWAC opponents in recent history and yes, you usually don't run anything but a very vanilla offense and defense in those games. I don't think it would be different if you were playing Central Michigan the next week instead of the #4 team in LA.

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Yep! I would not want to play SLU this year, they are stacked!

(08-06-2014 07:34 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  On 30 August the Cajuns will host Southern University while Louisiana Tech University at Ruston (LTU-R) will travel to play Oklahoma.

Obviously, I expect the Cajuns to fare better with Southern than LTU-R to fare with Oklahoma as the Sooners are ranked as one of the top teams in the country. These opening games set the stage for a hate-meeting at Cajun Field the following week with LTU-R.

Here's the question.

Under such a scenario, will the Cajun coaching staff intentionally not run certain plays on offense in the Southern game in order to deny the coaching staff of LTU-R a chance to see our complete offensive scheme?

Rumblings after our loss to SUU last year were that our offensive playbook was not completely open but I'm not sure if I believe it. However, there is no doubt the offense that showed up to Tulane was not even in the same stratosphere as the one from the SUU loss.

It's possible that coaches do this, I guess, just be damn sure you don't lose on a fg as time expires when you do.

(08-06-2014 06:13 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  

(08-06-2014 09:25 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(08-06-2014 08:50 AM)Vobserver Wrote:  

(08-06-2014 08:13 AM)Crump1 Wrote:  We have played several SWAC opponents in recent history and yes, you usually don't run anything but a very vanilla offense and defense in those games. I don't think it would be different if you were playing Central Michigan the next week instead of the #4 team in LA.

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Yep! I would not want to play SLU this year, they are stacked!

They play at Tulane on Sept 13 and the Wave fans are mostly, well, waving them off. "We've never lost to an FCS team and don't plan to start now".

I think Wave fans are going to be in for quite the shock. Won't try to call a winner in this one, but don't see SLU rolling over and playing dead either. They might want to take a look at what McNeese State did to USF last year at their place.