FWIW

Navy - 27
SMU - 101
Tulane - 147
UCONN - 164
Tulsa - 213
Houston - 309
Cincinnati - 391
Temple - 397
UCF - 405
USF - 435
East Carolina - 501
Memphis - 609

...and just as a side note, ECU would be 3rd in the current C-USA. Their rankings are abysmal.

There are 100 better schools than SMU? WTF are their criteria?

(07-30-2014 01:11 PM)Kronke Wrote:  There are 100 better schools than SMU? WTF are their criteria?

Student Satisfaction (25%) - Using ratemyprofessor and retention rates

Post-Graduate Success (32.5%) - Using salary data and also various lists of influential people

Student Debt (25%)

Four Year Graduation Rate (7.5%)

Academic Success (10%) - Using prestigious scholarships/fellowships like Rhodes, or going on to get a PhD

25% of the ranking is based on ratemyprofessor? WTF is that Forbes?!

(07-30-2014 01:16 PM)PiratePanther189 Wrote:  25% of the ranking is based on ratemyprofessor? WTF is that Forbes?!

This is why, despite all of the complaints, parents and students still put a lot of weight on the US News rankings. Generally speaking, the US News rankings pass the "smell test" of both actual selectivity and how potential employers would rate the schools. We can complain all day about certain parts of the US News methodology (i.e. its emphasis on yield, which ought to be irrelevant), but the end outcome largely makes sense. When Forbes uses nonsensical data points like ratemyprofessor, their rankings will get ignored.

(07-30-2014 01:48 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  

(07-30-2014 01:16 PM)PiratePanther189 Wrote:  25% of the ranking is based on ratemyprofessor? WTF is that Forbes?!

This is why, despite all of the complaints, parents and students still put a lot of weight on the US News rankings. Generally speaking, the US News rankings pass the "smell test" of both actual selectivity and how potential employers would rate the schools. We can complain all day about certain parts of the US News methodology (i.e. its emphasis on yield, which ought to be irrelevant), but the end outcome largely makes sense. When Forbes uses nonsensical data points like ratemyprofessor, their rankings will get ignored.

is usnews is just as bad and is purely based on opinion and surveys aswell..
i honestly wish their was a ranking based on an equation of grad rates, test scores, post graduate employment,funding, achievements ..with only a minor opinion aspect off it like for facilities and campus life

it really bothered me that Houston spent almost half a billion on completely changing the campus, anyone who hasnt been to UH in the last 4 years and goes their today would realize its not the same campus with the crazy amount of new facilities plus the reconstruction of the old ones , grad rates increase, acceptance rates decrease, test scores improved, added enough dorms to be the second largest dormed facility in the state (to lose the commuter name)..i was expecting a slight increase from, our old usnews ranking (before i knew how it worked) only to find out we had dropped almost 23 spots in the latest rankings, which felt crazy to me and looked it up, it is completely based on survey/opinion

yay! We made the top-610!

they might as well have used ratemyc*ck.com

(07-30-2014 01:13 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(07-30-2014 01:11 PM)Kronke Wrote:  There are 100 better schools than SMU? WTF are their criteria?

Student Satisfaction (25%) - Using ratemyprofessor and retention rates

Post-Graduate Success (32.5%) - Using salary data and also various lists of influential people

Student Debt (25%)

Four Year Graduation Rate (7.5%)

Academic Success (10%) - Using prestigious scholarships/fellowships like Rhodes, or going on to get a PhD

Both of those are much more important than 'ratemyprofessor.com'

(07-30-2014 02:27 PM)Carolina Stang Wrote:  they might as well have used ratemyc*ck.com

LOLOL


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Forbes college rankings is a joke. All high school seniors look to the US News and World Report rankings as they look to Ivy League universities and top academic schools. Tulane is ranked 52 in the nation there
,the highest in the AAC, and should be ranked higher.

(07-30-2014 02:05 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(07-30-2014 01:48 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  

(07-30-2014 01:16 PM)PiratePanther189 Wrote:  25% of the ranking is based on ratemyprofessor? WTF is that Forbes?!

This is why, despite all of the complaints, parents and students still put a lot of weight on the US News rankings. Generally speaking, the US News rankings pass the "smell test" of both actual selectivity and how potential employers would rate the schools. We can complain all day about certain parts of the US News methodology (i.e. its emphasis on yield, which ought to be irrelevant), but the end outcome largely makes sense. When Forbes uses nonsensical data points like ratemyprofessor, their rankings will get ignored.

is usnews is just as bad and is purely based on opinion and surveys aswell..
i honestly wish their was a ranking based on an equation of grad rates, test scores, post graduate employment,funding, achievements ..with only a minor opinion aspect off it like for facilities and campus life

it really bothered me that Houston spent almost half a billion on completely changing the campus, anyone who hasnt been to UH in the last 4 years and goes their today would realize its not the same campus with the crazy amount of new facilities plus the reconstruction of the old ones , grad rates increase, acceptance rates decrease, test scores improved, added enough dorms to be the second largest dormed facility in the state (to lose the commuter name)..i was expecting a slight increase from, our old usnews ranking (before i knew how it worked) only to find out we had dropped almost 23 spots in the latest rankings, which felt crazy to me and looked it up, it is completely based on survey/opinion

If you mean the "academic reputation" score of the US News rankings, then yes, that's based on a survey of university presidents. However, to be fair, the US News rankings also heavily use the completely objective SAT/ACT scores and class rank figures. The point is that if you're high school student or the parent of a high school student that is aiming for a selective school, the US News rankings actually mean something. It's not the be-all end-all, but its list "makes sense" based on the objective selectivity and subjective perception of prestige in the real world.

It's just like another completely subjective ranking: the AP Poll for college football. It's based purely on opinion and those opinions don't even include people that have necessarily even played football at any level (much less FBS college football), yet it is given much more weight by the general public than objective data-based computer rankings such as Sagarin.

Whether that's right or wrong is irrelevant - those rankings are important because the general public deems them to be important. A top 25 team in the AP Poll is deemed to be a "Top 25 team" by the general public, whereas a top 25 team in the Sagarin means nothing. Likewise, a top 25 school in the US News rankings is deemed to be a "Top 25 School" by the general public, whereas other rankings are ignored. Once again, there are problems with the US News methodology, but the cold hard fact is they're important because the people that "matter" in this case (the students and parents that are worried about getting into selective universities) consider them to be extremely important and don't trust other rankings that get cute and try to argue that Vassar is more highly-ranked than Harvard and Yale.

So, more meaningless college rankings that people can argue over. None of these rankings are perfect and they all attempt to measure different things. When someone says "X is better than Y," everyone should say "better at what?"

ratemyprofessor???...I am still laughing about that being given a 25% weight.

Never heard of that site

(07-30-2014 03:19 PM)Carolina Stang Wrote:  ratemyprofessor???...I am still laughing about that being given a 25% weight.

Never heard of that site

It's a theory, but the kids that have good experiences are far less likely to go out of their way to make a post about having a good teacher than one that they didn't like.

Lol. That's all.

1) There are not 146 schools better than Tulane.

2) SMU is not one of them.

Hi lair ee us

Lol. I used to put fake grades/scores on ratemyprofessor.

Forbes = gay