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Two articles on Skal and overseas play / nbcsports and sbnation (LINKED)
Article 1 - NBCSports >>>

http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.c...t-for-him/

... the point that hasn’t been made nearly enough when discussing the potential for American teenagers to spend their year in NBA purgatory abroad is that there simply isn’t all that much of a market for these guys abroad, particularly in Europe.

Let’s start with the obvious: When we’re talking about guys who can go pro overseas and make seven-figures, we’re talking about the elite of the elite. Andrew Wiggins, Jabari Parker, Jahlil Okafor, Mudiay. In a strong class, you’re looking at maybe five to seven guys who are worth consideration. In a weak class like 2015, you’re looking at just Ben Simmons, and I’m not convinced he’s good enough to garner that kind of a salary.

The bigger problem?

Teams in Europe do not want to sign an 18-year old kid for just one season. What do they get out of it? A prospect who’s not ready to contribute major minutes at the highest level of European basketball for one season before they head back stateside to play in the NBA? As good as Labissiere is now and as promising as he is as a prospect, the fact of the matter is that he gets pushed around by stronger guys at the high school level here. He would routinely be overpowered in the paint in a good European league. If the team cannot develop him, it’s not worth a million dollars to them.

“If you don’t want to sign a four or five year deal than you don’t get paid as an 18 or 19 year old,” one NBA scout told NBCSports.com. “European guys are looking and saying, ‘Would I rather be Mario Hezonja, stuck in Barcelona not playing and not able to get to the NBA, or would I rather be in the league like Alex Len?

“If you want to play in the NBA, which is what a lot of the Europeans and all of the Americans do, than signing a long-term deal with a big European club, which is the only way to get paid over there, is not a good option.”

It’s part of the reason that Mudiay was forced to head to China, a league that pays well, but A) demands major performances out of their American players, B) is quick to cut players that struggle, and C) will not be a productive step, and could be a hindrance, in his individual development...[/i[





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http://www.sbnation.com/college-basketba...y-ole-miss

[i]...The money Mudiay got is going to sound great to most 17 year olds getting ready for college basketball, but even if opportunities are found overseas, there's no denying it's likely to be a difficult process. Brandon Jennings spoke about rarely receiving paychecks on time during his one season in Italy. In places like China, radically different food choices could have negative effects on a player's body. Never mind the fact that in China, many fans smoke cigarettes in the gym during games.

Labissiere's guardian, Gerald Hamilton, may be better served steering him close to home at schools like Memphis or Ole Miss, which is reportedly making a late push in the recruitment. It will also be hard to turn down programs as prestigious as Kentucky and North Carolina.

Labissiere is likely better equipped to handle a jump to Europe than most of his peers based solely on his previous life experiences. From an on-court perspective, his thin frame (he's listed at 210 pounds) means he would be bound to have trouble handling punishment on the inside against players who might be 10 years older. Even at the high school level, Labissiere is a finesse big man -- a shot blocker on one end and a jump shooter on the other. How would that skill set translate a year from now in a pro league?

Brandon Jennings didn't become the trendsetter some expected when he re-routed his way around college to the NBA in 2008. Time will tell if Mudiay's decision will end up more influential. While the idea of jumping overseas to play professional basketball might sound good to a high schooler in theory, in practice they could be in for a lot more than they bargained for.
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Nice info. Thanks for the post.
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Great find, thanks. It helps explain the reasons more high schoolers are not playing overseas.
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RE: Two articles on Skal and overseas play / nbcsports and sbnation (LINKED)
Heads up. Calkins show (Martin hosting) getting ready to interview Rob Doster(?) sports writer re Skal and the chances he's the talent that gets a decent overseas contract.
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Good stuff.
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(07-28-2014 10:29 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  Heads up. Calkins show (Martin hosting) getting ready to interview Rob Doster(?) sports writer re Skal and the chances he's the talent that gets a decent overseas contract.

It could be an informative interview. I think they should address the points mentioned in the OP articles.
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RE: Two articles on Skal and overseas play / nbcsports and sbnation (LINKED)
(07-28-2014 10:48 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  
(07-28-2014 10:29 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  Heads up. Calkins show (Martin hosting) getting ready to interview Rob Doster(?) sports writer re Skal and the chances he's the talent that gets a decent overseas contract.

It could be an informative interview. I think they should address the points mentioned in the OP articles.

Noticed that the NBCSports article was written by him. He said that Skal's thin frame would radically limit his inside game against European guys who have developed bodies and have been playing a decade. Said the mostly likely European contract would be for something like 300K that could be sold the next season to an NBA team for double the money. But only if Skal looks the part.
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RE: Two articles on Skal and overseas play / nbcsports and sbnation (LINKED)
And address the issues on a country by country basis. They are all different in their attitudes about Americans, how they honor contracts, deal with injuries, value their players....etc
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RE: Two articles on Skal and overseas play / nbcsports and sbnation (LINKED)
(07-28-2014 10:56 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  
(07-28-2014 10:48 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  
(07-28-2014 10:29 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  Heads up. Calkins show (Martin hosting) getting ready to interview Rob Doster(?) sports writer re Skal and the chances he's the talent that gets a decent overseas contract.

It could be an informative interview. I think they should address the points mentioned in the OP articles.

Noticed that the NBCSports article was written by him. He said that Skal's thin frame would radically limit his inside game against European guys who have developed bodies and have been playing a decade. Said the mostly likely European contract would be for something like 300K that could be sold the next season to an NBA team for double the money. But only if Skal looks the part.

Did he say anything about Chinese money --- since, apparently, that is how this got started?
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(07-28-2014 11:08 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  
(07-28-2014 10:56 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  
(07-28-2014 10:48 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  
(07-28-2014 10:29 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  Heads up. Calkins show (Martin hosting) getting ready to interview Rob Doster(?) sports writer re Skal and the chances he's the talent that gets a decent overseas contract.

It could be an informative interview. I think they should address the points mentioned in the OP articles.

Noticed that the NBCSports article was written by him. He said that Skal's thin frame would radically limit his inside game against European guys who have developed bodies and have been playing a decade. Said the mostly likely European contract would be for something like 300K that could be sold the next season to an NBA team for double the money. But only if Skal looks the part.

Did he say anything about Chinese money --- since, apparently, that is how this got started?

No, I suppose that's the great unknown. But Martin mentioned the vacant Black Bear assistant position again. :)
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RE: Two articles on Skal and overseas play / nbcsports and sbnation (LINKED)
D. Rose makes a bit in the NBA. Then there is his shoe money.
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