(07-25-2014 11:15 AM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  Since Banowski made the remark the other day that WKU was the last piece of the puzzle for C-USA, is it time for some kind of grant of rights that holds the current members together for a certain period of time? Exceptions could be built in for advancement to a P5, which might aid in getting the GOR in place. What say you?

No.

(07-27-2014 08:15 AM)Ragu Wrote:  

(07-25-2014 01:12 PM)demiveeman Wrote:  Won't happen. Not a chance in hell.

Nobody wants to lock themselves into a conference with FIU, FAU, and UTSA.

From a UAB fan? Really? You guys have no room to talk. FAU has beaten your pathetic program plenty of times in football.

Yes, from a UAB fan. A GOR doesn't just apply to football, you know...but congratulations on your big wins against us.

None, and I mean NONE, of the original C-USA or C-USA 2.0 left-behinds want to be stuck in a conference with you guys.

It isn't that we aren't going to make the best of this situation, but if you think for one second that anybody is going to agree to get penalized for leaving the likes of this conference...you are crazy.

(07-28-2014 04:12 PM)demiveeman Wrote:  

(07-27-2014 08:15 AM)Ragu Wrote:  

(07-25-2014 01:12 PM)demiveeman Wrote:  Won't happen. Not a chance in hell.

Nobody wants to lock themselves into a conference with FIU, FAU, and UTSA.

From a UAB fan? Really? You guys have no room to talk. FAU has beaten your pathetic program plenty of times in football.

Yes, from a UAB fan. A GOR doesn't just apply to football, you know...but congratulations on your big wins against us.

None, and I mean NONE, of the original C-USA or C-USA 2.0 left-behinds want to be stuck in a conference with you guys.

It isn't that we aren't going to make the best of this situation, but if you think for one second that anybody is going to agree to get penalized for leaving the likes of this conference...you are crazy.

You can be a real obnoxious sob most of the time

(07-28-2014 04:12 PM)demiveeman Wrote:  

(07-27-2014 08:15 AM)Ragu Wrote:  

(07-25-2014 01:12 PM)demiveeman Wrote:  Won't happen. Not a chance in hell.

Nobody wants to lock themselves into a conference with FIU, FAU, and UTSA.

From a UAB fan? Really? You guys have no room to talk. FAU has beaten your pathetic program plenty of times in football.

Yes, from a UAB fan. A GOR doesn't just apply to football, you know...but congratulations on your big wins against us.

None, and I mean NONE, of the original C-USA or C-USA 2.0 left-behinds want to be stuck in a conference with you guys.

It isn't that we aren't going to make the best of this situation, but if you think for one second that anybody is going to agree to get penalized for leaving the likes of this conference...you are crazy.

UAB again has nothing to brag about. You guys aren't going anywhere anyways. The difference is FAU only has about a decade of football right now. You guys have another decade on us with nothing special being done...

I mean at least we have won a bowl game (2 in fact)

We got in just in time...Feels like we slid underneath a gate at the last second, haha...

No prez in his right mind would sign a GOR in CUSA.

(07-29-2014 06:47 AM)Ragu Wrote:  

(07-28-2014 04:12 PM)demiveeman Wrote:  

(07-27-2014 08:15 AM)Ragu Wrote:  

(07-25-2014 01:12 PM)demiveeman Wrote:  Won't happen. Not a chance in hell.

Nobody wants to lock themselves into a conference with FIU, FAU, and UTSA.

From a UAB fan? Really? You guys have no room to talk. FAU has beaten your pathetic program plenty of times in football.

Yes, from a UAB fan. A GOR doesn't just apply to football, you know...but congratulations on your big wins against us.

None, and I mean NONE, of the original C-USA or C-USA 2.0 left-behinds want to be stuck in a conference with you guys.

It isn't that we aren't going to make the best of this situation, but if you think for one second that anybody is going to agree to get penalized for leaving the likes of this conference...you are crazy.

UAB again has nothing to brag about. You guys aren't going anywhere anyways. The difference is FAU only has about a decade of football right now. You guys have another decade on us with nothing special being done...

I mean at least we have won a bowl game (2 in fact)

I'm not talking about just UAB (and I'm certainly not bragging about UAB Football). I'm talking about ANYBODY else in the conference.

You can keep harping on the fact that UAB sucks at football (HAR HAR) but it doesn't make my point any less true.

Nobody wants to be in this version of the conference except for the ones that just got here. Everybody else is just dealing with the cards they've been dealt. None of those schools are going to sign a GOR to try and keep it together.

Well who says a school like FAU would even sign? What is one of the AAC Florida schools leave and FAU improves football more. They could bolt CUSA as well...

(07-29-2014 09:06 AM)Ragu Wrote:  Well who says a school like FAU would even sign? What is one of the AAC Florida schools leave and FAU improves football more. They could bolt CUSA as well...

I never said they would. Why would anybody sign it? The time for that was two conferences ago.

(07-29-2014 08:50 AM)demiveeman Wrote:  Nobody wants to be in this version of the conference except for the ones that just got here.

I don't believe this is true. Don't get me wrong, I'm excited that Charlotte made the jump as soon as we could and thankfully that C-USA gave us a spot.

However, I'm pretty sure no school wants to be in this conference including the ones that just got here. I know the ones that just got here have less of a chance at moving up, but I don't think they want C-USA to be their last stop. C-USA, AAC, Sun Belt - these are all stepping stone conferences. I don't know that I would want to be associated with any school that thought the second tier was the best it could ever do.

Again, I'm excited to be playing FBS football starting next year and excited that any conference would take us so early. I'll just be disappoint if down the road, say 50 years from now, Charlotte still has the same chance of winning an FBS national championship as we do this year (0%), which will be the case if we are still in C-USA.

All one has to do is consider the mess when WVU left for the Big 12. The Big East said "No, you can't do that." and WVU said, "What are you going to do? Guard the airport?"

No one can stop a school from changing. It would be a monetary penalty. That's it. And if the penalty is too stiff, not one president would sign.

(07-29-2014 09:47 AM)EpicNiner Wrote:  I'll just be disappoint if down the road, say 50 years from now, Charlotte still has the same chance of winning an FBS national championship as we do this year (0%)

Hate to say it, but it is going to be a disappointing 2064 for you. Nobody in this current C-USA is going to have a shot at an FBS national championship in the next 50 years. The system is constantly being refined to make sure this is the case.

(07-29-2014 11:23 AM)demiveeman Wrote:  

(07-29-2014 09:47 AM)EpicNiner Wrote:  I'll just be disappoint if down the road, say 50 years from now, Charlotte still has the same chance of winning an FBS national championship as we do this year (0%)

Hate to say it, but it is going to be a disappointing 2064 for you. Nobody in this current C-USA is going to have a shot at an FBS national championship in the next 50 years. The system is constantly being refined to make sure this is the case.

I completely agree that no one in this conference has a chance of making it to the FBS championship, which is why I said that Charlotte will have zero chance if still in C-USA. However, I honestly think there are teams in this conference who have the potential of getting called up, and I foolishly hope that Charlotte will be in that group. I think everyone hopes their team will be in that group, otherwise why not just drop back down to FCS.

(07-29-2014 11:45 AM)EpicNiner Wrote:  

(07-29-2014 11:23 AM)demiveeman Wrote:  

(07-29-2014 09:47 AM)EpicNiner Wrote:  I'll just be disappoint if down the road, say 50 years from now, Charlotte still has the same chance of winning an FBS national championship as we do this year (0%)

Hate to say it, but it is going to be a disappointing 2064 for you. Nobody in this current C-USA is going to have a shot at an FBS national championship in the next 50 years. The system is constantly being refined to make sure this is the case.

I completely agree that no one in this conference has a chance of making it to the FBS championship, which is why I said that Charlotte will have zero chance if still in C-USA. However, I honestly think there are teams in this conference who have the potential of getting called up, and I foolishly hope that Charlotte will be in that group. I think everyone hopes their team will be in that group, otherwise why not just drop back down to FCS.

Charlotte and the meep meeps are IMHO at the top of that list.

(07-29-2014 11:45 AM)EpicNiner Wrote:  

(07-29-2014 11:23 AM)demiveeman Wrote:  

(07-29-2014 09:47 AM)EpicNiner Wrote:  I'll just be disappoint if down the road, say 50 years from now, Charlotte still has the same chance of winning an FBS national championship as we do this year (0%)

Hate to say it, but it is going to be a disappointing 2064 for you. Nobody in this current C-USA is going to have a shot at an FBS national championship in the next 50 years. The system is constantly being refined to make sure this is the case.

I completely agree that no one in this conference has a chance of making it to the FBS championship, which is why I said that Charlotte will have zero chance if still in C-USA. However, I honestly think there are teams in this conference who have the potential of getting called up, and I foolishly hope that Charlotte will be in that group. I think everyone hopes their team will be in that group, otherwise why not just drop back down to FCS.

And I'm saying it doesn't matter if any teams move up. No team in this current C-USA, regardless of where they move to in the future, will have a legitimate shot at an FBS National Championship 50 years from now.

This is shortsighted. If a CUSA school that plays and defeats all the teams in a strong OOC schedule and then defeats all the teams in a stronger CUSA, it will make the playoff. The size of the playoff will grow larger in the future. CUSA is a conference with a lot of young programs. You have to consider the very strong possibility that the conference is going to improve dramatically in football in the coming years.

(07-29-2014 01:59 PM)Afflicted Wrote:  This is shortsighted.

It is the opposite of shortsighted. It is foresighted.

The future is not bright for non-P5 teams, and NO team currently in C-USA will have a shot at the FBS Championship as we know it now.

50 years from now...these teams will either all be in a different division or play in some other "championship".

I don't know about that. P5 and G5 will always need one another. They need us to help fill out their fat home schedules and we need them right now for money and strength of schedule. Eventually, the G5 conferences will need to band together and respond. Perhaps demand only home and home against P5 schools? How about just improve as a group? As soon as the G5 conferences can consistently have members ranked in the top 25 and in "their" playoff, they won't be able to ignore us as we chip away at their money and attention. Who knows what can happen? Let them pay their players and pay income taxes to the government as for-profit institutions. A lot of things can change, but the G5 will need to quit sitting around and feeling sorry for itself. Respond!