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David Drew's article on the offensive line.
Seems like a lot of competition and key players back as well as freshman potential.

http://www.mlive.com/broncos/index.ssf/2...cart_river
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Returning key players! That's it, seven wins!!
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(07-25-2014 10:00 AM)DesertBronco Wrote:  Returning key players! That's it, seven wins!!

If you can't add to the discussion could you please SHUT UP! 03-shhhh
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Oh ok..."chips have a dull coach" "chips think they're good" beep beep. "Fleck is a great recruiter, he will learn to coach" beep. "Chips are dumb" beep. "EMU has bad attendance"

You mean add to the conversation that way?! 03-lmfao

Please. You only want happy talk and hate it when your boy band, er boy uh band ....AGHHH..03-banghead HJ gets mocked. He have pictures of you?
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RE: David Drew's article on the offensive line.
Here is a look at the potential two-deep depth chart entering fall camp courtesy of MLive:

LEFT TACKLE

Starter: Willie Beavers: The 6-foot-4, 300-pound junior started all 12 games last season and made two starts and a total of eight appearances in 2012.

Backup: Elliot Jordan: The 6-7, 250-pounder from Kentwood could compete for the backup job behind Beavers. Other candidates for the backup job could include freshman Jordan Van Dort.

LEFT GUARD

Starter: Jackson Day: The 6-3, 280-pound sophomore showed steady improvement last season and after making two starts and appearing in a total of eight games as a freshman he finds himself as the frontrunner for a starting job.

Backup: Curtis Doyle: The 6-5, 305-pound freshman from Alma will compete for a backup job at both guard positions and could challenge for playing time. Other possibilities for this job include freshman Zach Novoselsky and redshirt freshman Kristof Ifkovits, a 6-4, 306-pounder who made the move from the defensive line, but broke his foot early in the season.

CENTER

Starter: Jimmy Kristof: The 6-3, 300-pounder has been a staple of consistency since arriving at WMU. He started all 12 games at guard last season and made two starts and a total of 12 appearances in 2012.

Backup: Jon Hoffing: Depending on how the position battles shake out along the offensive line Hoffing (6-4, 285) could be a starter at guard and the backup center or the starting center and a backup to Kristof at guard.

RIGHT GUARD

Starter: Jon Hoffing: Like many names on the offensive line, Hoffing here might not be permanent, but heading into fall camp with so many questions of depth it makes sense.

Backup: Curtis Doyle: The freshman could compete for a backup job at either guard, or a starting job at one of the two spots. The starting job at right guard could end up belonging to Kristof or Day as well.

RIGHT TACKLE

Starter: Taylor Moton: The 6-5, 290-pound sophomore from Okemos started all 12 games last season and was on the field for 827 snaps.

Backup: Chukwuma Okorafor: The 6-6, 285-pounder from Southfield will be on Moton's tail. Okorafor is one of the gems of WMU's historic signing class as he received late offers from several major programs from the SEC, Big Ten and Big 12.
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(07-25-2014 10:55 AM)DesertBronco Wrote:  Oh ok..."chips have a dull coach" "chips think they're good" beep beep. "Fleck is a great recruiter, he will learn to coach" beep. "Chips are dumb" beep. "EMU has bad attendance"

You mean add to the conversation that way?! 03-lmfao

Please. You only want happy talk and hate it when your boy band, er boy uh band ....AGHHH..03-banghead HJ gets mocked. He have pictures of you?

That alone is 4 more topics than you ever hit on.
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Those aren't topics, those are trolls.
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RE: David Drew's article on the offensive line.
(07-25-2014 12:20 PM)bostonbronco Wrote:  Here is a look at the potential two-deep depth chart entering fall camp courtesy of MLive:

LEFT TACKLE

Starter: Willie Beavers: The 6-foot-4, 300-pound junior started all 12 games last season and made two starts and a total of eight appearances in 2012.

Backup: Elliot Jordan: The 6-7, 250-pounder from Kentwood could compete for the backup job behind Beavers. Other candidates for the backup job could include freshman Jordan Van Dort.

LEFT GUARD

Starter: Jackson Day: The 6-3, 280-pound sophomore showed steady improvement last season and after making two starts and appearing in a total of eight games as a freshman he finds himself as the frontrunner for a starting job.

Backup: Curtis Doyle: The 6-5, 305-pound freshman from Alma will compete for a backup job at both guard positions and could challenge for playing time. Other possibilities for this job include freshman Zach Novoselsky and redshirt freshman Kristof Ifkovits, a 6-4, 306-pounder who made the move from the defensive line, but broke his foot early in the season.

CENTER

Starter: Jimmy Kristof: The 6-3, 300-pounder has been a staple of consistency since arriving at WMU. He started all 12 games at guard last season and made two starts and a total of 12 appearances in 2012.

Backup: Jon Hoffing: Depending on how the position battles shake out along the offensive line Hoffing (6-4, 285) could be a starter at guard and the backup center or the starting center and a backup to Kristof at guard.

RIGHT GUARD

Starter: Jon Hoffing: Like many names on the offensive line, Hoffing here might not be permanent, but heading into fall camp with so many questions of depth it makes sense.

Backup: Curtis Doyle: The freshman could compete for a backup job at either guard, or a starting job at one of the two spots. The starting job at right guard could end up belonging to Kristof or Day as well.

RIGHT TACKLE

Starter: Taylor Moton: The 6-5, 290-pound sophomore from Okemos started all 12 games last season and was on the field for 827 snaps.

Backup: Chukwuma Okorafor: The 6-6, 285-pounder from Southfield will be on Moton's tail. Okorafor is one of the gems of WMU's historic signing class as he received late offers from several major programs from the SEC, Big Ten and Big 12.

THESE are topics. Thanks Boston I'm saving this.
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(07-25-2014 10:33 PM)DesertBronco Wrote:  Those aren't topics, those are trolls.

If pointing Flecks success in recruiting equates to trolling, then apparently anything that paints him in a positive light is trolling.

I think your attempting to "spin" this. Oh wait, I just said you're spinning 03-lmfao

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(07-25-2014 11:02 PM)Chipdip2 Wrote:  
(07-25-2014 10:33 PM)DesertBronco Wrote:  Those aren't topics, those are trolls.

If pointing Flecks success in recruiting equates to trolling, then apparently anything that paints him in a positive light is trolling.

I think your attempting to "spin" this. Oh wait, I just said you're spinning 03-lmfao

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WTF are you talking about here?!? Wow.
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(07-25-2014 12:20 PM)bostonbronco Wrote:  Here is a look at the potential two-deep depth chart entering fall camp courtesy of MLive:

LEFT TACKLE

Starter: Willie Beavers: The 6-foot-4, 300-pound junior started all 12 games last season and made two starts and a total of eight appearances in 2012.

Backup: Elliot Jordan: The 6-7, 250-pounder from Kentwood could compete for the backup job behind Beavers. Other candidates for the backup job could include freshman Jordan Van Dort.

LEFT GUARD

Starter: Jackson Day: The 6-3, 280-pound sophomore showed steady improvement last season and after making two starts and appearing in a total of eight games as a freshman he finds himself as the frontrunner for a starting job.

Backup: Curtis Doyle: The 6-5, 305-pound freshman from Alma will compete for a backup job at both guard positions and could challenge for playing time. Other possibilities for this job include freshman Zach Novoselsky and redshirt freshman Kristof Ifkovits, a 6-4, 306-pounder who made the move from the defensive line, but broke his foot early in the season.

CENTER

Starter: Jimmy Kristof: The 6-3, 300-pounder has been a staple of consistency since arriving at WMU. He started all 12 games at guard last season and made two starts and a total of 12 appearances in 2012.

Backup: Jon Hoffing: Depending on how the position battles shake out along the offensive line Hoffing (6-4, 285) could be a starter at guard and the backup center or the starting center and a backup to Kristof at guard.

RIGHT GUARD

Starter: Jon Hoffing: Like many names on the offensive line, Hoffing here might not be permanent, but heading into fall camp with so many questions of depth it makes sense.

Backup: Curtis Doyle: The freshman could compete for a backup job at either guard, or a starting job at one of the two spots. The starting job at right guard could end up belonging to Kristof or Day as well.

RIGHT TACKLE

Starter: Taylor Moton: The 6-5, 290-pound sophomore from Okemos started all 12 games last season and was on the field for 827 snaps.

Backup: Chukwuma Okorafor: The 6-6, 285-pounder from Southfield will be on Moton's tail. Okorafor is one of the gems of WMU's historic signing class as he received late offers from several major programs from the SEC, Big Ten and Big 12.

Looks like more stability in the offensive line with these young men.

Okorafor is one freshman I could see starting at some point.

Taylor Moton is a big 6'5", 290 sophomore.

I forgot about: redshirt freshman Kristof Ifkovits, 6-4, 306-pounder who broke his foot early in the season will be back.
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RE: David Drew's article on the offensive line.
Last year's OL:
LT - Willie Beavers - 6'4", 309 lbs.
LG - Greg Peterson - 6'5", 282 lbs.
C- Jon Hoffing - 6'4", 285 lbs.
RG - Jimmy Kristof - 6'3", 296 lbs.
RT - Taylor Moton - 6'5", 291 lbs.

Here's what I think we could see this year:
LT - Willie Beavers - 6'4", 309 lbs.
LG - Jordan Van Dort - 6'5", 285 lbs.
C - Jimmy Kristof - 6'3", 296 lbs.
RG - Curtis Doyle - 6'6", 305 lbs.
RT - Chukes Okorafor - 6'6", 285 lbs.

With Elliot Jordan (6'7", 265 lbs.) and Zach Novoselsky (6'5", 285 lbs.) hanging in the wings, you've got to like our size up front once these guys put on a few more pounds, bulk up, and develop into D1 linemen.
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RE: David Drew's article on the offensive line.
Beavers had a tendencies to hold the speed rushers. I'd leave Moten at RT and move Beavers to LG if Okafor was ready to play LT.
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Not sure I'd want a freshman playing LT. That's a tough situation to walk into, regardless of how talented the kid is.
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RE: David Drew's article on the offensive line.
I think this team is going to be relying on freshmen, if that's the way they want to go from what Fleck is saying, then no reason not to jump right in and play them.
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I believe Anthony Parker started at LT as a freshmen. He just got too fat for the position.

Part of the problem last year was early attrition on the Oline.

Sam Jaeger would likely been a three year starter had he not had career ending issues. Matt Finnin left and became a JC stud with offers from numerous BCS programs. Add in Terry Davisson's senior year health issues and Josh Hadel deciding to leave after he graduated.

There could have been experience and depth.
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offensive line is the worst position in football to start a freshman imo... Unless they have truly developed into their bodies. The difference between high school pass protection and college is night and day. No more 150 lb defensive lineman. You play the best you have but it is so difficult to pass block making that jump.
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No way do I see that many true freshmen starting on the O-line. Our current tackles Moton and Beavers are actually decent. Okorafor would have to fight real hard to get the start over them.

Ideally you don't want any true froshs starting on either line. We actually get some experience on the line back this year (one that performed well considering their complete lack of experience; 0 returning starters last year), why screw that up by throwing these new guys right into the fire?
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I hope you all are right.
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