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This is the most thorough preview I've seen thus far, complete with graphs, roster charts, and commentaries.

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football...ule-roster

(07-08-2014 04:40 PM)bostonbronco Wrote:  This is the most thorough preview I've seen thus far, complete with graphs, roster charts, and commentaries.

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football...ule-roster

This is a March 7, 2014 article.

(07-08-2014 05:14 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  

(07-08-2014 04:40 PM)bostonbronco Wrote:  This is the most thorough preview I've seen thus far, complete with graphs, roster charts, and commentaries.

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football...ule-roster

This is a March 7, 2014 article.

. . . and the most thorough preview I've seen. Also includes freshmen and possible starters. When one scrolls down, there is a chart for each position with stats. Very interesting and complete.

"Comically enthusiastic" DOES sound better than "buffoonish". I like it!

He really does a great job of reconciling both of the extreme viewpoints around here lately. Nicely done.

Here me now believe me later. Brant is going to KICK ASS this year.

(07-08-2014 07:44 PM)Hiller4Hyz09 Wrote:  Here me now believe me later. Brant is going to KICK ASS this year.

Yeah he is relentless and a hitter hope he stays healthy.

Looking at the offensive line, where we couldn't open up holes nor give time to the QB last year, who do you think will start and how will they do in general this year?


Player Pos. Ht, Wt 2014 Year Rivals Career Starts
Willie Beavers LT 6'4, 309 Jr. 3 stars (5.5) 14
James Kristof LG 6'3, 296 Jr. 2 stars (5.4) 14
Jon Hoffing C 6'4, 285 Sr. 2 stars (5.4) 13
Taylor Moton RT 6'5, 291 So. 2 stars (5.2) 12
Greg Peterson RG 10
Jackson Day RG 6'3, 279 So. 2 stars (5.4) 2
Travis Turner LT 0
John Jackson LG 6'2, 319 Jr. 2 stars (5.3) 0
Ben Davisson RT 0

Josh Bass OL 6'4, 271 RSFr. 2 stars (5.4)
Chukwuma Okorafor OL 6'5, 275 Fr. 3 stars (5.6)
Curtis Doyle OL 6'5, 304 Fr. 3 stars (5.5)

(07-10-2014 08:27 AM)bostonbronco Wrote:  Looking at the offensive line, where we couldn't open up holes nor give time to the QB last year, who do you think will start and how will they do in general this year?


Player Pos. Ht, Wt 2014 Year Rivals Career Starts
Willie Beavers LT 6'4, 309 Jr. 3 stars (5.5) 14
James Kristof LG 6'3, 296 Jr. 2 stars (5.4) 14
Jon Hoffing C 6'4, 285 Sr. 2 stars (5.4) 13
Taylor Moton RT 6'5, 291 So. 2 stars (5.2) 12
Greg Peterson RG 10
Jackson Day RG 6'3, 279 So. 2 stars (5.4) 2
Travis Turner LT 0
John Jackson LG 6'2, 319 Jr. 2 stars (5.3) 0
Ben Davisson RT 0

Josh Bass OL 6'4, 271 RSFr. 2 stars (5.4)
Chukwuma Okorafor OL 6'5, 275 Fr. 3 stars (5.6)
Curtis Doyle OL 6'5, 304 Fr. 3 stars (5.5)

I think four guys are almost shoe ins at some spot. Beavers, Moton, Day and Kristof. Kristof and Beavers especially. There has been some talk of moving Kristof to center, but I think that is a mistake, he has been a guard and is your best lineman, I would leave him be. Beavers has impressed the staff, and so had Josh Bass a bit before his freak injury. Don't know if he can bounce back in time. Hoffing is going to have to earn his spot and fight off Curtis Doyle I think. I see Jordan Van Dort and Novolselsky redshirting. Okorafor will be in the mix, which might move Moton inside.

Here's OL depth chart from Athlon CFB magazine (which I assume was provided by WMU):

LT Beavers Elliot Jordan (Fr)

LG Day Bass

C Kristof Mario Rodriguez (Sr)

RG Hoffing Doyle

RT Moton Okorafor

I think between Doyle, Van Dort, and Okorafor, at least 2 of those 3 guys starts.

Kristof and Beavers are the only guaranteed returning starters IMO.

Mario Rodriguez is a tight end.

(07-10-2014 11:53 AM)Hoekjeness Wrote:  I think between Doyle, Van Dort, and Okorafor, at least 2 of those 3 guys starts.

Kristof and Beavers are the only guaranteed returning starters IMO.

Mario Rodriguez is a tight end.

Phil Steele seems to think they're moving him to backup center.


Btw, here's Phil Steele's projections for O-line this year (I think he mixed up Hoffing and Kristof though):

Center: Jimmy Kristof, Mario Rodriguez, Jordan Van Dort, (longsnapper) Wyatt Pfeifer

Right Guard: Jon Hoffing, Curtis Doyle, Andrew Aurand, Dustin Pringle

Left Guard: Jackson Day, Josh Bass, John Jackson, Kristof Ifkovits

Right Tackle: Taylor Moton, Chukwuma Okorafor, Zach Novoselsky

Left Tackle: Willie Beavers, Elliot Jordan

(07-10-2014 12:28 PM)ColinApocalypse Wrote:  

(07-10-2014 11:53 AM)Hoekjeness Wrote:  Mario Rodriguez is a tight end.

Phil Steele seems to think they're moving him to backup center.

Phil Steele and Athlon are wrong. Hokey says so.

I was under the impression Rodriguez got moved to OL for Spring practices.

Well, considering he played tight end last year and the WMU website still lists him as a tight end...

http://www.wmubroncos.com/ViewArticle.db...=206293164

As I posted - these preview magazines get the depth charts, stats, other info from the schools themselves (Spring Prospectus and then afterward updates).

Apparently you're not as much in the "know" as you'd like to be, Hokey.

Phil Steele and Athlon do not have depth charts from WMU already. That's ridiculous. They are just doing their research online and looking at spring game rosters and stats -- the same ones fans and media get at the spring game. I'm sure they saw that Rodriguez played OL during the spring game and ran with it.

Kids are battling for starting spots and coaches are still making final determinations right up until 1-2 weeks before the opener. Fleck and staff probably don't even have a clue what the depth chart is going to look like yet. And they shouldn't, because it's only early July. A lot can change between now and the end of August. Last season, the depth charts were not released until one week before the opener against MSU.

I don't know if he's been converted to OL permanently, all I know is he played TE last year and is listed on the website as a TE. Does anyone else here have info he's moving to OL?

(07-10-2014 05:26 PM)Hoekjeness Wrote:  Phil Steele and Athlon do not have depth charts from WMU already.

SIDs from all schools send out Prospectus prior to Spring Football and updated ones afterwards.

So - yes, they do.

Hard to believe you're not on mailing list, Mr. In The Know.

Quote:Fleck and staff probably don't even have a clue

Maybe most accurate thing you've ever posted on here.

Quote:I don't know if he's been converted to OL permanently, all I know is he played TE last year and is listed on the website as a TE. Does anyone else here have info he's moving to OL?

Yes - Phil Steele and Athlon.

Apparently you're not the Insider you think you are.

If it's true that Mario will be playing OL, then you gotta wonder what kinda depth we have at TE. Boyden, Bezerra, and McDaniel? 1 junior and 2 true freshmen? Yikes.

Hoople? What on earth are you talking about?

I am not an insider but it is common knowledge that this is not how it works... sure, there is a depth chart (sort of) release for the spring game. But nothing after that until 1-2 weeks before the opener.

If a depth chart is released, why don't we see something on MLive? Or is it just Phil Steele and Athalon that are the "lone" insiders? Seriously...

Does it ever occur to you that they just might do very good research?