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(07-10-2014 05:50 PM)MajorHoople Wrote:  

(07-10-2014 05:26 PM)Hoekjeness Wrote:  Phil Steele and Athlon do not have depth charts from WMU already.

SIDs from all schools send out Prospectus prior to Spring Football and updated ones afterwards.

So - yes, they do.

Hard to believe you're not on mailing list, Mr. In The Know.

Quote:Fleck and staff probably don't even have a clue

Maybe most accurate thing you've ever posted on here.

Quote:I don't know if he's been converted to OL permanently, all I know is he played TE last year and is listed on the website as a TE. Does anyone else here have info he's moving to OL?

Yes - Phil Steele and Athlon.

Apparently you're not the Insider you think you are.

I feel like you have some anger towards Hoejkness.

Phil Steele clearly does research, but I guarantee this is just the depth chart from the spring game, mixed in with incoming freshmen.

Wow.... now moving on to receivers. There seems to be a lot of options. Who do you think will emerge as the main targets aside from Corey Davis.

It seems that freshman, Bazerra, may see time at tight end if he is has good as projected.


Player Pos. Ht, Wt 2014
Year Rivals Targets Catches Yards Catch Rate Target
Rate %SD Yds/
Target NEY Real Yds/
Target RYPR

Corey Davis WR-X 6'2, 205 So. 2 stars (5.3) 135 67 941 49.6% 33.6% 51.2% 7.0 8 6.6 102.5
Timmy Keith WR-Z 6'0, 203 Jr. 3 stars (5.5) 50 20 218 40.0% 12.4% 58.3% 4.4 -99 4.5 23.8
Kendrick Roberts WR-F 6'3, 203 Jr. 3 stars (5.5) 45 23 354 51.1% 11.2% 62.2% 7.9 39 7.7 38.6
Josh Schaffer WR-X 38 19 219 50.0% 9.5% 50.0% 5.8 -44 6.5 23.9
Clark Mussman TE 36 20 195 55.6% 9.0% 37.9% 5.4 -67 4.9 21.2
Daniel Braverman (2012) WR 5'10, 164 So. 3 stars (5.5) 32 18 135 56.3% 6.6% 59.4% 4.2 N/A 4.2 15.8
Eric Boyden TE 6'4, 243 Jr. 2 stars (5.2) 26 19 179 73.1% 6.5% 88.9% 6.9 -37 9.0 19.5
Dareyon Chance RB 23 14 114 60.9% 5.7% 35.0% 5.0 -60 5.9 12.4
Brian Fields RB 20 13 122 65.0% 5.0% 23.1% 6.1 -35 6.4 13.3
Mario Rodriguez FB 6'3, 265 Sr. 2 stars (5.2) 10 6 82 60.0% 2.5% 66.7% 8.2 7 3.3 8.9
Alec Moulton WR 6'1, 189 So. NR 8 7 61 87.5% 2.0% 37.5% 7.6 -12 8.0 6.6
Antoin Scriven RB 5 4 50 80.0% 1.2% 50.0% 10.0 6 9.5 5.4
Michael Henry WR 5'10, 172 So. 2 stars (5.4) 3 1 2 33.3% 0.7% N/A 0.7 -16 0.0 0.2
Courtney Bynes WR


2 1 6 50.0% 0.5% N/A 3.0 -8 0.0 0.7
Justin Ferguson (Notre Dame) WR 6'2, 185 So. 3 stars (5.7)
Lonnie Johnson WR 6'3, 184 Fr. 3 stars (5.7)
Javonte Seabury WR 5'9, 170 Fr. 3 stars (5.6)

Jay Harris WR 5'11, 180 Fr. 3 stars (5.5)

Lucas Bezerra TE 6'4, 242 Fr. 3 stars (5.5)

(07-12-2014 07:03 PM)bostonbronco Wrote:  Wow.... now moving on to receivers. There seems to be a lot of options. Who do you think will emerge as the main targets aside from Corey Davis.

It seems that freshman, Bazerra, may see time at tight end if he is has good as projected.


Player Pos. Ht, Wt 2014
Year Rivals Targets Catches Yards Catch Rate Target
Rate %SD Yds/
Target NEY Real Yds/
Target RYPR

Corey Davis WR-X 6'2, 205 So. 2 stars (5.3) 135 67 941 49.6% 33.6% 51.2% 7.0 8 6.6 102.5
Timmy Keith WR-Z 6'0, 203 Jr. 3 stars (5.5) 50 20 218 40.0% 12.4% 58.3% 4.4 -99 4.5 23.8
Kendrick Roberts WR-F 6'3, 203 Jr. 3 stars (5.5) 45 23 354 51.1% 11.2% 62.2% 7.9 39 7.7 38.6
Josh Schaffer WR-X 38 19 219 50.0% 9.5% 50.0% 5.8 -44 6.5 23.9
Clark Mussman TE 36 20 195 55.6% 9.0% 37.9% 5.4 -67 4.9 21.2
Daniel Braverman (2012) WR 5'10, 164 So. 3 stars (5.5) 32 18 135 56.3% 6.6% 59.4% 4.2 N/A 4.2 15.8
Eric Boyden TE 6'4, 243 Jr. 2 stars (5.2) 26 19 179 73.1% 6.5% 88.9% 6.9 -37 9.0 19.5
Dareyon Chance RB 23 14 114 60.9% 5.7% 35.0% 5.0 -60 5.9 12.4
Brian Fields RB 20 13 122 65.0% 5.0% 23.1% 6.1 -35 6.4 13.3
Mario Rodriguez FB 6'3, 265 Sr. 2 stars (5.2) 10 6 82 60.0% 2.5% 66.7% 8.2 7 3.3 8.9
Alec Moulton WR 6'1, 189 So. NR 8 7 61 87.5% 2.0% 37.5% 7.6 -12 8.0 6.6
Antoin Scriven RB 5 4 50 80.0% 1.2% 50.0% 10.0 6 9.5 5.4
Michael Henry WR 5'10, 172 So. 2 stars (5.4) 3 1 2 33.3% 0.7% N/A 0.7 -16 0.0 0.2
Courtney Bynes WR


2 1 6 50.0% 0.5% N/A 3.0 -8 0.0 0.7
Justin Ferguson (Notre Dame) WR 6'2, 185 So. 3 stars (5.7)
Lonnie Johnson WR 6'3, 184 Fr. 3 stars (5.7)
Javonte Seabury WR 5'9, 170 Fr. 3 stars (5.6)

Jay Harris WR 5'11, 180 Fr. 3 stars (5.5)

Lucas Bezerra TE 6'4, 242 Fr. 3 stars (5.5)

Kendall Roberts and Darius Phillips. From people in the program I have spoken with, Phillips continues to get praised as someone who can make an impact.

I do believe Billingslea, Harris, Seabury, and Keith will compete for time as well.

Here's video from Darius's senior year. He is a 4.3 speedster.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKl6eOyw4gc

Davis and Roberts are legit deep threats and Keith is talented as well. Moulton also emerged as a threat, but he might get buried on the depth chart barring injuries.

Braverman and Phillips are good slot options. Between Braverman, Phillips and Seabury we have some serious speed to work with in the slot. All 3 of them run 4.3-4.4.

Boyden is obviously our top TE right now, but Bezerra has been impressive in the time he's been here.


I'm interested to see if Jay Harris gets playing time. Don't know a whole lot about him though.

Here's a look at the defensive line:

90 Khairi Bailey DE 6-3 251 RFr. Chicago, Ill. (Morgan Park)
94 Jack McIntee DE 6-2 250 So. Three Rivers, Mich. (Defiance) (Three Rivers)
36 Jeremiah Mullinax DE 6-5 232 RFr. Lincoln Park, Mich. (Southgate Anderson)
5 Andre Turner DE 6-3 218 RFr. Harper Woods, Mich. (Chandler Park Academy)
68 David Curle DL 6-2 290 So. Shelby Township, Mich. (Utica Eisenhower)
51 Devante Lee DL 6-6 230 RFr. Chicago, Ill. (U.S. Simeon Career Academy)
15 Jamar Simpkins DL 6-2 277 So. Miami, Fla. (Monsignor Pace)
8 Cleveland Smith DL 6-1 233 Jr. Miami, Fla. (North Miami Beach)
9 Richard Ash DT 6-3 314 5Sr. Pahokee, Fla.

Thoughts???

(07-23-2014 03:54 PM)bostonbronco Wrote:  Here's a look at the defensive line:


Name Pos Ht, Wt 2014
Year Rivals GP Tackles % of Team TFL Sacks Int PBU FF FR
Travonte Boles NG 12 40.0 5.7% 5.0 1.5 1 1 0 0
Jarrell McKinney DE 6'4, 216 Jr. 2 stars (5.4) 12 30.5 4.3% 2.5 0.0 0 0 0 0
Roosevelt Donaldson DE 10 21.5 3.1% 4.0 0.0 0 0 1 0
Mikhail Dubose DE 11 18.0 2.6% 1.5 0.0 0 0 2 0
Cleveland Smith DT 6'1, 233 Jr. 2 stars (5.2) 9 15.0 2.1% 5.0 0.0 0 0 0 0
Keion Adams DE 6'3, 230 So. NR 10 14.5 2.1% 2.5 1.0 0 1 1 0
Jamar Simpkins NG 6'2, 277 So. 2 stars (5.4) 7 13.0 1.8% 1.5 1.0 0 0 0 0
Cory Sueing DT 7 6.5 0.9% 2.5 0.0 0 0 1 0
David Curle DL 5 6.5 0.9% 0.5 0.0 0 0 0 0
Jabarai Bothwell DT 4 2.5 0.4% 0.0 0.0 0 0 0 0
Khairi Bailey DE 6'3, 251 RSFr. 3 stars (5.6)
Andre Turner DE 6'3, 218 RSFr. 2 stars (5.4)
Ken Finley DT 6'3, 283 Fr. 3 stars (5.5)
Nick Matich DT 6'2, 300 Fr. 2 stars (5.4)
Nathan Braster DE 6'5, 252 Fr. 2 stars (5.4)

Thoughts???

Well, 5 of them are gone, and Finley may not be eligible.

Thanks, Dip. I just updated it:

Here's a look at the defensive line:

90 Khairi Bailey DE 6-3 251 RFr. Chicago, Ill. (Morgan Park)
94 Jack McIntee DE 6-2 250 So. Three Rivers, Mich. (Defiance) (Three Rivers)
36 Jeremiah Mullinax DE 6-5 232 RFr. Lincoln Park, Mich. (Southgate Anderson)
5 Andre Turner DE 6-3 218 RFr. Harper Woods, Mich. (Chandler Park Academy)
68 David Curle DL 6-2 290 So. Shelby Township, Mich. (Utica Eisenhower)
51 Devante Lee DL 6-6 230 RFr. Chicago, Ill. (U.S. Simeon Career Academy)
15 Jamar Simpkins DL 6-2 277 So. Miami, Fla. (Monsignor Pace)
8 Cleveland Smith DL 6-1 233 Jr. Miami, Fla. (North Miami Beach)
9 Richard Ash DT 6-3 314 5Sr. Pahokee, Fla.

Freshmen:
Nathan Braster DE Fort Wayne, IN South Side 6'4" 245 2 stars 5.4
Kenny Finley DT Muskegon, MI Muskegon 6'2" 278 3 stars 5.5
Nick Matich DT Clarkston, MI Clarkston 6'2" 290 2 stars 5.4

Thoughts???

I want to see what Devante Lee can do at DE. Good size and athleticism and should be ready to go after his RS year.

Also interested to see how good Ash is. 315 lbs? The dude should be a rock in the middle of our D-line.

(07-10-2014 11:53 AM)Hoekjeness Wrote:  I think between Doyle, Van Dort, and Okorafor, at least 2 of those 3 guys starts.

Kristof and Beavers are the only guaranteed returning starters IMO.

Mario Rodriguez is a tight end.

It will be Doyle and Okorafor. Van Dort played TE his whole HS career, and in his system at Zeeland they NEVER pass blocked. Plus, he needs a year in the weight room...

Van Dort is way more athletic than Doyle is. I wouldn't be surprised if Doyle disappoints.