(07-24-2014 02:56 PM)Mitch Rapp Wrote:  I could be wrong about that award NG but in the 98-99 year FB was 12-0, MBB went 21-15, WBB was in the NCAAs and I am pretty sure men's tennis, womens tennis, mens and womens golf either all of them or 3 of 4 all won conference usa. 98-99 was a huge year where we won a ton of stuff.
That is why it was strange that she vanished. She didn't leave for another job.

Its not strange at all. After the Scelfo/RR cluster, Cowan (who was the new preseident at TU) wanted his own AD ... its not unusual for a new president to want to pick his own AD.

So Fitts is going to get rid of Dickson then right?

I know what you mean and I understand what you are saying but Tulane football had 2 consecutive winning seasons, MBB had a string of 20 win season, WBB had been to the NCAA tourney 2-4 years in a row and the other sports were flourishing for the most part.

Sorry, you don't just get rid of that person that easily and they vanish. Especially when you factor in all the other relevant sketchiness that seems to have gone on.

(07-24-2014 03:57 PM)Mitch Rapp Wrote:  So Fitts is going to get rid of Dickson then right?

I know what you mean and I understand what you are saying but Tulane football had 2 consecutive winning seasons, MBB had a string of 20 win season, WBB had been to the NCAA tourney 2-4 years in a row and the other sports were flourishing for the most part.

Sorry, you don't just get rid of that person that easily and they vanish. Especially when you factor in all the other relevant sketchiness that seems to have gone on.

Seems she is out of a job.


Cal Athletic Director Sandy Barbour will leave her position next month, a university official confirmed late Thursday.

In Barbour's decade at the helm of Cal athletics, the school produced 19 national team titles, renovated seismically unsound Memorial Stadium and built a state-of-the-art athletic performance center. But her tenure has been fraught with problems, including:

-- The ongoing issues associated with paying off the debt on the stadium and athletic center, estimated in June 2013 at $445 million.

-- The decline of a football program that ranked near the top of the then-Pac-10 for most of the 2000s, but had only one win last season.

O'Hare blames "the toxic environment of big-time sports" more for Cal's current problems than he faults Barbour. "She's more to be pitied than censured, and she's to be admired for having undertaken" the job.

(07-24-2014 03:57 PM)Mitch Rapp Wrote:  Sorry, you don't just get rid of that person that easily and they vanish. Especially when you factor in all the other relevant sketchiness that seems to have gone on.

You do if you don't like the way she ran the department. You don't seriously contend that Cowen judged his ADs on "wins and losses" do you? Look at how long he kept Dickson, despite a dreadful W/L record of most teams during his tenure..

She was not a good AD. She didn't hire any of those coaches, except for Bowden. She didn't hire Stockton, Clark or Jones. She did nothing to capitalize on 12-0 and she didn't manage well.

Might be true but Cowen didn't even know her when he got rid of her and she did nothing to capitalize on 12-0 because she was not employed by Tulane anymore to do so buddy.

(07-25-2014 09:38 AM)Mitch Rapp Wrote:  Might be true but Cowen didn't even know her when he got rid of her and she did nothing to capitalize on 12-0 because she was not employed by Tulane anymore to do so buddy.

She had several months, and she didn't bring in the bucks. Not a long time, I realize, but she wasn't much of a fundraiser before then.
And while I think it's certain that Scelfo was Cowen's call (after being lobbied heavily by his brother, a major donor), we don't really know her involvement. And Cowen's main mission when hired was to bring in $$.
Pull it all together, and you can see the problem - she didn't bring in $$.
That said, would she be better than Dickson today? Certainly, although my guess is that fundraising still isn't her speciality.
One thing she did that wasn't as easy as the W/L record would suggest it should be, but was essential: She fired Teevens (BTW, he almost won the Ivy League last year).

Well guess what is better than a good fundraiser?

A winner.

Win and you don't need a good fundraiser.

(07-25-2014 01:18 PM)Mitch Rapp Wrote:  Well guess what is better than a good fundraiser?

A winner.

Win and you don't need a good fundraiser.

Talk about landing on your feet ... Sandy Barbour has been hired as the AD at Penn State making a base salary of $700,000 per year.

Did she get fired at Cal Berkeley or why did she move to Penn State? More dinero? . None of the major athletic football donors at Tulane liked here at Tulane. She was to much like Lisa. She allegedly screwed Rich Rodriguez our next head football coach. He had a green tie on to be announced as our next head football coach when she screwed him and went with the alleged all time loser Chris Scelfo.

(07-26-2014 04:24 PM)Savacool Wrote:  Did she get fired at Cal Berkeley or why did she move to Penn State? More dinero? . None of the major athletic football donors at Tulane liked here at Tulane. She was to much like Lisa. She allegedly screwed Rich Rodriguez our next head football coach. He had a green tie on to be announced as our next head football coach when she abandoned him and went with the alleged all time loser Chris Scelfo.

(07-26-2014 04:24 PM)Savacool Wrote:  She allegedly screwed Rich Rodriguez our next head football coach.

Mutual non-interest pact guarantees that didn't happen.

(07-26-2014 04:24 PM)Savacool Wrote:  Did she get fired at Cal Berkeley or why did she move to Penn State? More dinero? . None of the major athletic football donors at Tulane liked here at Tulane. She was to much like Lisa. She allegedly screwed Rich Rodriguez our next head football coach. He had a green tie on to be announced as our next head football coach when she screwed him and went with the alleged all time loser Chris Scelfo.

If you think Sandy screwed RR then you have no idea what actually happened. Scelfo was a Cowan hire plain and simple.

Sandy went along with it. She embarrassed Rick at announcement. He had his green tie on. She could have resigned in protest. She reminds me of Lisa Stockton. All the major Tulane football money men allegedly despised her like Ben Wiener, Freeport Mac Moran cohead and river port tug head. These people personally funded the Tulane athletic deficits each year out of their own pockets. The academic record of her football teams at Cal Berkeley during her tenure was a major embarrassment to the university.

Yep. she so terrible that she keeps getting job promotions

(07-24-2014 07:57 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(07-12-2014 09:23 PM)Savacool Wrote:  Rich Rodriguez… was to be announced as our new head coach (he even had his green tie on minutes before the announcement) when our low life President Scott Cowen told our AD Sandy Barbour not to hire him but hire Chris Scelfo the worst Tulane coach in the last fifty years.

I have heard several versions of that story. In some versions, it was Barbour's decision, in some of them it was Cowen's decision. Either way it turned out very badly for Tulane.

It was Cowen's decision. He was concerned that RR would only stay a few years and become more of a media darling than Scotty boy was. Hiring Scelfo, canning Barbour, and hiring Rick Dickson set the stage for a number of terrible decisions Scott Cowen made as Tulane's President. By all measures, Cowen was a disaster for Tulane, particularly for Tulane Athletics.

(07-28-2014 03:47 PM)DfromCT Wrote:  

(07-24-2014 07:57 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(07-12-2014 09:23 PM)Savacool Wrote:  Rich Rodriguez… was to be announced as our new head coach (he even had his green tie on minutes before the announcement) when our low life President Scott Cowen told our AD Sandy Barbour not to hire him but hire Chris Scelfo the worst Tulane coach in the last fifty years.

I have heard several versions of that story. In some versions, it was Barbour's decision, in some of them it was Cowen's decision. Either way it turned out very badly for Tulane.

It was Cowen's decision. He was concerned that RR would only stay a few years and become more of a media darling than Scotty boy was. Hiring Scelfo, canning Barbour, and hiring Rick Dickson set the stage for a number of terrible decisions Scott Cowen made as Tulane's President. By all measures, Cowen was a disaster for Tulane, particularly for Tulane Athletics.

Not according to the media and the board. There have been three celebrations, a fundraiser, several news stories and the front of our campus is now named for him. The guy is a flat out genius when it comes to self promotion. Like I said on the other board, when the stadium opens, SC will be eating up the praise.

Quote:The guy is a flat out genius when it comes to self promotion.

That is the only thing anyone will ever need to know about Cowen.

.... Don't speak of that name (Cowen).