This isn't the discussion with the boosters in North Little Rock on Thursday, but a radio interview at the last spring caravan stop in Downtown Jonesboro on Friday.

Fast forward to the 4:40 mark to hear about new press box expansion and new Jumbotron projects.

UMASS comments at 7 minute mark.

http://www.953theticket.com/?p=1811

Surprised he wants UMASS all sports or nothing. They have had problems since moving up That is normal. Flying the volleyball team to Massachusetts makes even less sense.

(05-16-2014 09:00 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  This isn't the discussion with the boosters in North Little Rock on Thursday, but a radio interview at the last spring caravan stop in Downtown Jonesboro on Friday.

Fast forward to the 4:40 mark to hear about new press box expansion and new Jumbotron projects.

UMASS comments at 7 minute mark.

http://www.953theticket.com/?p=1811

As disappointed as I was with the A-State AD from the tweets released from the booster event. His public comments on the radio yesterday make much more sense and are much more in harmony with what we know to be the case as far as the league's commitments and stated goals.

(05-17-2014 09:11 AM)MJG Wrote:  Surprised he wants UMASS all sports or nothing. They have had problems since moving up That is normal. Flying the volleyball team to Massachusetts makes even less sense.

He said that's what he would prefer. He said "whatever the presidents decide".

(05-17-2014 09:45 AM)GoAppsGo92 Wrote:  

(05-16-2014 09:00 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  This isn't the discussion with the boosters in North Little Rock on Thursday, but a radio interview at the last spring caravan stop in Downtown Jonesboro on Friday.

Fast forward to the 4:40 mark to hear about new press box expansion and new Jumbotron projects.

UMASS comments at 7 minute mark.

http://www.953theticket.com/?p=1811

As disappointed as I was with the A-State AD from the tweets released from the booster event. His public comments on the radio yesterday make much more sense and are much more in harmony with what we know to be the case as far as the league's commitments and stated goals.

If you look at the other thread I believe that was what Arkstfan was trying to tell you.

(05-17-2014 09:55 AM)OsageJ Wrote:  

(05-17-2014 09:45 AM)GoAppsGo92 Wrote:  

(05-16-2014 09:00 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  This isn't the discussion with the boosters in North Little Rock on Thursday, but a radio interview at the last spring caravan stop in Downtown Jonesboro on Friday.

Fast forward to the 4:40 mark to hear about new press box expansion and new Jumbotron projects.

UMASS comments at 7 minute mark.

http://www.953theticket.com/?p=1811

As disappointed as I was with the A-State AD from the tweets released from the booster event. His public comments on the radio yesterday make much more sense and are much more in harmony with what we know to be the case as far as the league's commitments and stated goals.

If you look at the other thread I believe that was what Arkstfan was trying to tell you.

That may be, but hearing it from the source removes all doubt.

(05-17-2014 09:57 AM)GoAppsGo92 Wrote:  

(05-17-2014 09:55 AM)OsageJ Wrote:  

(05-17-2014 09:45 AM)GoAppsGo92 Wrote:  

(05-16-2014 09:00 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  This isn't the discussion with the boosters in North Little Rock on Thursday, but a radio interview at the last spring caravan stop in Downtown Jonesboro on Friday.

Fast forward to the 4:40 mark to hear about new press box expansion and new Jumbotron projects.

UMASS comments at 7 minute mark.

http://www.953theticket.com/?p=1811

As disappointed as I was with the A-State AD from the tweets released from the booster event. His public comments on the radio yesterday make much more sense and are much more in harmony with what we know to be the case as far as the league's commitments and stated goals.

If you look at the other thread I believe that was what Arkstfan was trying to tell you.

That may be, but hearing it from the source removes all doubt.

Doubt? I'm a Troy fan and I never had any doubt about stAte's competitiveness.I think your gonna find on your tour of the Sun Belt this year several competitive nooks along the way!

If UMass wouldn't join the MAC all sports then I find it harder to believe they would join the Sun Belt for all sports. But anything is possible.

(05-17-2014 10:25 AM)GE and MTS Wrote:  If UMass wouldn't join the MAC all sports then I find it harder to believe they would join the Sun Belt for all sports. But anything is possible.

Mohajir doesn't believe they would either. Nor does he want them to.

(05-17-2014 09:47 AM)GoAppsGo92 Wrote:  

(05-17-2014 09:11 AM)MJG Wrote:  Surprised he wants UMASS all sports or nothing. They have had problems since moving up That is normal. Flying the volleyball team to Massachusetts makes even less sense.

He said that's what he would prefer. He said "whatever the presidents decide".

However he pretty much told you straight up we are voting no. Our Chancellor, President, and AD work in lock step. There is no way the Chancellor would approve UMass without Mohajir first giving the go ahead.

If ASU is a no...that means UALR is a no, and that likely means that ULL and Texas State will fall in line. Hence the "I think we'll stay at 11" comment.

(05-17-2014 10:25 AM)GE and MTS Wrote:  If UMass wouldn't join the MAC all sports then I find it harder to believe they would join the Sun Belt for all sports. But anything is possible.

Obviously no one expects them to. But unfortunately for UMass, I am betting that most FBS Leagues will hold that standard.

(05-17-2014 10:53 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(05-17-2014 09:47 AM)GoAppsGo92 Wrote:  

(05-17-2014 09:11 AM)MJG Wrote:  Surprised he wants UMASS all sports or nothing. They have had problems since moving up That is normal. Flying the volleyball team to Massachusetts makes even less sense.

He said that's what he would prefer. He said "whatever the presidents decide".

However he pretty much told you straight up we are voting no. Our Chancellor, President, and AD work in lock step. There is no way the Chancellor would approve UMass without Mohajir first giving the go ahead.

If ASU is a no...that means UALR is a no, and that likely means that ULL and Texas State will fall in line. Hence the "I think we'll stay at 11" comment.

He absolutely did not say that. We will see what happens.

(05-17-2014 10:08 AM)WhitetailWizard Wrote:  

(05-17-2014 09:57 AM)GoAppsGo92 Wrote:  

(05-17-2014 09:55 AM)OsageJ Wrote:  

(05-17-2014 09:45 AM)GoAppsGo92 Wrote:  

(05-16-2014 09:00 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  This isn't the discussion with the boosters in North Little Rock on Thursday, but a radio interview at the last spring caravan stop in Downtown Jonesboro on Friday.

Fast forward to the 4:40 mark to hear about new press box expansion and new Jumbotron projects.

UMASS comments at 7 minute mark.

http://www.953theticket.com/?p=1811

As disappointed as I was with the A-State AD from the tweets released from the booster event. His public comments on the radio yesterday make much more sense and are much more in harmony with what we know to be the case as far as the league's commitments and stated goals.

If you look at the other thread I believe that was what Arkstfan was trying to tell you.

That may be, but hearing it from the source removes all doubt.

Doubt? I'm a Troy fan and I never had any doubt about stAte's competitiveness.I think your gonna find on your tour of the Sun Belt this year several competitive nooks along the way!

The doubt removed was about UMASS and the commitment to get to 12. He still used a loser's argument on why he personally does not want a championship game.

(05-17-2014 09:57 AM)GoAppsGo92 Wrote:  

(05-17-2014 09:55 AM)OsageJ Wrote:  

(05-17-2014 09:45 AM)GoAppsGo92 Wrote:  

(05-16-2014 09:00 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  This isn't the discussion with the boosters in North Little Rock on Thursday, but a radio interview at the last spring caravan stop in Downtown Jonesboro on Friday.

Fast forward to the 4:40 mark to hear about new press box expansion and new Jumbotron projects.

UMASS comments at 7 minute mark.

http://www.953theticket.com/?p=1811

As disappointed as I was with the A-State AD from the tweets released from the booster event. His public comments on the radio yesterday make much more sense and are much more in harmony with what we know to be the case as far as the league's commitments and stated goals.

If you look at the other thread I believe that was what Arkstfan was trying to tell you.

That may be, but hearing it from the source removes all doubt.

Except you weren't relying on the source, you were relying on Troy's paraphrase of what he said and as I explained I was standing right there when he said it and the paraphrase lacked the nuance of what was said.

(05-17-2014 11:29 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(05-17-2014 09:57 AM)GoAppsGo92 Wrote:  

(05-17-2014 09:55 AM)OsageJ Wrote:  

(05-17-2014 09:45 AM)GoAppsGo92 Wrote:  

(05-16-2014 09:00 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  This isn't the discussion with the boosters in North Little Rock on Thursday, but a radio interview at the last spring caravan stop in Downtown Jonesboro on Friday.

Fast forward to the 4:40 mark to hear about new press box expansion and new Jumbotron projects.

UMASS comments at 7 minute mark.

http://www.953theticket.com/?p=1811

As disappointed as I was with the A-State AD from the tweets released from the booster event. His public comments on the radio yesterday make much more sense and are much more in harmony with what we know to be the case as far as the league's commitments and stated goals.

If you look at the other thread I believe that was what Arkstfan was trying to tell you.

That may be, but hearing it from the source removes all doubt.

Except you weren't relying on the source, you were relying on Troy's paraphrase of what he said and as I explained I was standing right there when he said it and the paraphrase lacked the nuance of what was said.

After listening to his radio interview, it's clear Mohajir seems like a good guy, but nuance is not something you would say he has. His public comments fall in line with the leagues stated goals, and he made it very clear that UMASS is getting serious consideration. That works for me.

(05-17-2014 11:25 AM)GoAppsGo92 Wrote:  

(05-17-2014 10:08 AM)WhitetailWizard Wrote:  

(05-17-2014 09:57 AM)GoAppsGo92 Wrote:  

(05-17-2014 09:55 AM)OsageJ Wrote:  

(05-17-2014 09:45 AM)GoAppsGo92 Wrote:  As disappointed as I was with the A-State AD from the tweets released from the booster event. His public comments on the radio yesterday make much more sense and are much more in harmony with what we know to be the case as far as the league's commitments and stated goals.

If you look at the other thread I believe that was what Arkstfan was trying to tell you.

That may be, but hearing it from the source removes all doubt.

Doubt? I'm a Troy fan and I never had any doubt about stAte's competitiveness.I think your gonna find on your tour of the Sun Belt this year several competitive nooks along the way!

The doubt removed was about UMASS and the commitment to get to 12. He still used a loser's argument on why he personally does not want a championship game.

FWIW, among the non-power leagues, when one or more teams comes into a conference championship game ranked, the higher rated team is 7-7 all-time. If you use a neutral site or alternate hosting between divisions or any other format where the highest rated team isn't at home the higher rated team will lose most of the time.

The only way you can do a title game and statistically give the highest rated team a good chance of improving their standing is to have the highest rated team host without regard to any other factor (ie. if East champ is 7-1 in league but 11-1 overall and the West champ is 8-0 in league but 9-3 overall you have to have the east champ host)

(05-17-2014 11:36 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(05-17-2014 11:25 AM)GoAppsGo92 Wrote:  

(05-17-2014 10:08 AM)WhitetailWizard Wrote:  

(05-17-2014 09:57 AM)GoAppsGo92 Wrote:  

(05-17-2014 09:55 AM)OsageJ Wrote:  If you look at the other thread I believe that was what Arkstfan was trying to tell you.

That may be, but hearing it from the source removes all doubt.

Doubt? I'm a Troy fan and I never had any doubt about stAte's competitiveness.I think your gonna find on your tour of the Sun Belt this year several competitive nooks along the way!

The doubt removed was about UMASS and the commitment to get to 12. He still used a loser's argument on why he personally does not want a championship game.

FWIW, among the non-power leagues, when one or more teams comes into a conference championship game ranked, the higher rated team is 7-7 all-time. If you use a neutral site or alternate hosting between divisions or any other format where the highest rated team isn't at home the higher rated team will lose most of the time.

The only way you can do a title game and statistically give the highest rated team a good chance of improving their standing is to have the highest rated team host without regard to any other factor (ie. if East champ is 7-1 in league but 11-1 overall and the West champ is 8-0 in league but 9-3 overall you have to have the east champ host)

I like and want the championship game hosted on the highest ranked team's field. That's the way all of these championship games should be in my opinion. It should be a reward and revenue generator for the best team, and should guarantee a solid attendance to boot... Plus the national exposure of the game on your campus is an added bonus, and it's cheaper to do as well. If it has the stats support it, that's even better.

(05-17-2014 11:25 AM)GoAppsGo92 Wrote:  He still used a loser's argument on why he personally does not want a championship game.

He used the same rationale the Big 12 commissioner used. Business. As much as you don't like it, this is a business. You do cost-benefit analysis and risk analysis and base decisions off of that. Not on what you think would be spiffy, what gives you an FCS flashback, or what others are doing.

We are going to need a championship game. Particularly when we start having ranked teams in the east and west. But the question is whether that day is today and whether we need to add another temp football-only refugee with bad football that is outside our traditional footprint to get it RIGHT NOW.

Call it what you will.

(05-17-2014 11:41 AM)GoAppsGo92 Wrote:  

(05-17-2014 11:36 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(05-17-2014 11:25 AM)GoAppsGo92 Wrote:  

(05-17-2014 10:08 AM)WhitetailWizard Wrote:  

(05-17-2014 09:57 AM)GoAppsGo92 Wrote:  That may be, but hearing it from the source removes all doubt.

Doubt? I'm a Troy fan and I never had any doubt about stAte's competitiveness.I think your gonna find on your tour of the Sun Belt this year several competitive nooks along the way!

The doubt removed was about UMASS and the commitment to get to 12. He still used a loser's argument on why he personally does not want a championship game.

FWIW, among the non-power leagues, when one or more teams comes into a conference championship game ranked, the higher rated team is 7-7 all-time. If you use a neutral site or alternate hosting between divisions or any other format where the highest rated team isn't at home the higher rated team will lose most of the time.

The only way you can do a title game and statistically give the highest rated team a good chance of improving their standing is to have the highest rated team host without regard to any other factor (ie. if East champ is 7-1 in league but 11-1 overall and the West champ is 8-0 in league but 9-3 overall you have to have the east champ host)

I like and want the championship game hosted on the highest ranked team's field. That's the way all of these championship games should be in my opinion. It should be a reward and revenue generator for the best team, and should guarantee a solid attendance to boot... Plus the national exposure of the game on your campus is an added bonus, and it's cheaper to do as well. If it has the stats support it, that's even better.

Assuming all G5 leagues do a title game at the home field of the highest ranked teams on average one home team loses every year and about every three or four years, two will lose. But of course reality rarely conforms to stats so more likely one year none will lose and then one year three will lose.

(05-17-2014 11:33 AM)GoAppsGo92 Wrote:  His public comments fall in line with the leagues stated goals, and he made it very clear that UMASS is getting serious consideration. That works for me.

There are things UMASS can do, say, and commit to that would make them acceptable as a temporary placeholder, and even as a permanent member.

But getting a championship game right this instant is not one of the things that should be the primary motivator for adding them. That should be a side-effect of adding them at most.