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2014 College Football Preview: Why the College Football Playoff Could Kill Mid-Majors
Interesting read. My opinion all always been the playoff will eat up most of the TV money going to G5 conferences and that will cause a restructuring of the G5 conferences into more regional arrangements. This guy seem to have the same take on the money part aspect.

http://sportsunbiased.com/ncaa/college-f...couldnt/2/
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(05-13-2014 04:40 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  Interesting read. My opinion all always been the playoff will eat up most of the TV money going to G5 conferences and that will cause a restructuring of the G5 conferences into more regional arrangements. This guy seem to have the same take on the money part aspect.

http://sportsunbiased.com/ncaa/college-f...couldnt/2/

I'm just glad we're officially out of the FCS come July 1.
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WHAT? The way SOME of you guys have been talking-you were out of FCS and in the SBC last summer.
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I don't buy this.

First, he acts like we are suddenly being cut-off from being in the National Championship picture as Cinderallas. Uh...we have never been in the National Championship picture as Cinderellas.

Seconds, he acts as if playing a Cotton Bowl game in Jerry World in January is a blow to our prestige and will be disappointing to us. Ummm, playing in a Cotton Bowl or Peach Bowl against a Rutgers or Louisville will be the height of just about any program outside of NIU and Boise.

Third, he talks about recruits being less willing to choose us over the P5. Ummm, they don't usually do that anyway AND the scholarship limits are the same....so where are the players we get now going to go in protest of having only a realistic shot at a lowly Cotton Bowl? FCS?

Fourth, we don't get as much money as the P5. Ummm, but its more than we are getting now? How does making more money than now lead to more irrelevance?

It sounds like this guy doesn't really understand our position.
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RE: 2014 College Football Preview: Why the College Football Playoff Could Kill Mid-Majors
(05-13-2014 04:40 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  Interesting read. My opinion all always been the playoff will eat up most of the TV money going to G5 conferences and that will cause a restructuring of the G5 conferences into more regional arrangements. This guy seem to have the same take on the money part aspect.

http://sportsunbiased.com/ncaa/college-f...couldnt/2/

I think the guy is crazy. For starters the G5 haven't been winning most recruiting battles with P5 teams for years. That's nothing new. Second--NFL scouts have proven they can find talent anywhere--and they are getting better and better at it. They will find you anywhere---with one caveate---they cant find you on the bench. So, what recruits know is that if you get on the field and excel---the NFL will find you. There is a limit to how much talent the Alabamas of the world can stockpile. You have to get on the field to be seen by the NFL scouts---the recruits will go where they can play. A top recruit isnt interested in sitting on the bench as the 3 string left tackle---even at Alabama.

Finally, the bowl situation has sucked since the beginning of time for mid-majors. In the beginning, there were just a few bowls and it was tough to get any bowl for anyone--especially mid-majors. The BCS made it tougher to get a good bowl---but the number of bowls expanded so much that now you can likely get to a bowl if you qualify. Yeah--it will be a piece of crap bowl---but its better than nothing.

Frankly, I think the new playoff represents a marginal improvement for mid-majors for 3 reasons.

1) Its easier to get to #4 than it is to get to #2. Plus, now that the playoff is here---its going to expand eventually.

2) More money. The money is a significant shot in the arm and will help cover some of the new costs coming from autonomy (which was coming one with or without the new playoff).

3) Guaranteed access. When the BCS began, there was ZERO access for the non-AQ. That slowly got better, but the access granted was always conditional. You had to reach a certain ranking. Thus, many years, no G5 team participated in the BCS post season. Now, the best G5 champion is guaranteed access---regardless of rank. That's a pretty big step forward. The G5 will always be represented in the CFP postseason--GUARANTEED.
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RE: 2014 College Football Preview: Why the College Football Playoff Could Kill Mid-Majors
(05-13-2014 04:40 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  Interesting read. My opinion all always been the playoff will eat up most of the TV money going to G5 conferences and that will cause a restructuring of the G5 conferences into more regional arrangements. This guy seem to have the same take on the money part aspect.

http://sportsunbiased.com/ncaa/college-f...couldnt/2/

Nothing new. If the FCS and DIV II survived all these years there is no way the G5's are in any trouble. The FCS will lose a lot of games due to the weaker P5's screaming about the SEC playing so many since they have not being able to hang lately.
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(05-13-2014 05:26 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  I don't buy this.

First, he acts like we are suddenly being cut-off from being in the National Championship picture as Cinderallas. Uh...we have never been in the National Championship picture as Cinderellas.

Seconds, he acts as if playing a Cotton Bowl game in Jerry World in January is a blow to our prestige and will be disappointing to us. Ummm, playing in a Cotton Bowl or Peach Bowl against a Rutgers or Louisville will be the height of just about any program outside of NIU and Boise.

Third, he talks about recruits being less willing to choose us over the P5. Ummm, they don't usually do that anyway AND the scholarship limits are the same....so where are the players we get now going to go in protest of having only a realistic shot at a lowly Cotton Bowl? FCS?

Fourth, we don't get as much money as the P5. Ummm, but its more than we are getting now? How does making more money than now lead to more irrelevance?

It sounds like this guy doesn't really understand our position.

I tend to agree with you about him missing the mark.

The G5 have always been the Cinderallas, and with very limited hope of ever making it to the Ball. The CFP may further reduce the chance of making it to the Ball, but it won't change our status of Cinderella/severe underdog. And it won't mean the end of the world as we know it.

At least not for a while.

Things will change, but I think slowly over a period of several years. Schools and programs will adjust.

Money will continue to move toward the P5, mainly in the form of TV revenue, to the point that a wider gulf will exist between the P5 and G5 and the G5 will become more homogenous (everyone is equally bad). But I think that takes a number of years.

The fact that we had the BCS all those years did not really change the status of most G5-type schools. Everyone adjusted, and some moved up a little, while some slid down. But we are still poor, and still in business.
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[Image: avatar_63265_zpsd8a2250c.gif~original]We would need a time machine to know for sure.
Regardless we know the P-5's will mess with us and that is the only constant.
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(05-13-2014 05:34 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(05-13-2014 04:40 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  Interesting read. My opinion all always been the playoff will eat up most of the TV money going to G5 conferences and that will cause a restructuring of the G5 conferences into more regional arrangements. This guy seem to have the same take on the money part aspect.

http://sportsunbiased.com/ncaa/college-f...couldnt/2/

I think the guy is crazy. For starters the G5 haven't been winning most recruiting battles with P5 teams for years. That's nothing new. Second--NFL scouts have proven they can find talent anywhere--and they are getting better and better at it. They will find you anywhere---with one caveate---they cant find you on the bench. So, what recruits know is that if you get on the field and excel---the NFL will find you. There is a limit to how much talent the Alabamas of the world can stockpile. You have to get on the field to be seen by the NFL scouts---the recruits will go where they can play. A top recruit isnt interested in sitting on the bench as the 3 string left tackle---even at Alabama.

Finally, the bowl situation has sucked since the beginning of time for mid-majors. In the beginning, there were just a few bowls and it was tough to get any bowl for anyone--especially mid-majors. The BCS made it tougher to get a good bowl---but the number of bowls expanded so much that now you can likely get to a bowl if you qualify. Yeah--it will be a piece of crap bowl---but its better than nothing.

Frankly, I think the new playoff represents a marginal improvement for mid-majors for 3 reasons.

1) Its easier to get to #4 than it is to get to #2. Plus, now that the playoff is here---its going to expand eventually.

2) More money. The money is a significant shot in the arm and will help cover some of the new costs coming from autonomy (which was coming one with or without the new playoff).

3) Guaranteed access. When the BCS began, there was ZERO access for the non-AQ. That slowly got better, but the access granted was always conditional. You had to reach a certain ranking. Thus, many years, no G5 team participated in the BCS post season. Now, the best G5 champion is guaranteed access---regardless of rank. That's a pretty big step forward. The G5 will always be represented in the CFP postseason--GUARANTEED.

Won't mean as much until G5 is guaranteed a slot in the CFP itself.
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Few schools schedule based on possible play off seed.
This probably hurts FCS more and helps G5.
The eight team play off that almost went into effect includes first round home games.

So G5 inclusion would be top five ranking and you get to play at number one. Making it harder to almost impossible to win a championship. The BCS increased money and play off is an evolution of it.
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