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Any possibilty of a "move down"
Not this year but if we continue to show well against our peer conferences, any chance we can pull over a UAB LaTech Southern Miss or even MTSU? Keep travel down and sell more tickets as the opponents would be closer to home and should in theory bring more fans with them.
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RE: Any possibilty of a "move down"
(05-08-2014 04:17 PM)asupatch Wrote: Not this year but if we continue to show well against our peer conferences, any chance we can pull over a UAB LaTech Southern Miss or even MTSU? Keep travel down and sell more tickets as the opponents would be closer to home and should in theory bring more fans with them.
Don't know about the others, but unless ULM moves down to FCS, the Ruston bunch will never join the SBC. They will never be in a conference with ULM.
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RE: Any possibilty of a "move down"
(05-08-2014 04:24 PM)Vobserver Wrote: (05-08-2014 04:17 PM)asupatch Wrote: Not this year but if we continue to show well against our peer conferences, any chance we can pull over a UAB LaTech Southern Miss or even MTSU? Keep travel down and sell more tickets as the opponents would be closer to home and should in theory bring more fans with them.
Don't know about the others, but unless ULM moves down to FCS, the Ruston bunch will never join the SBC. They will in a conference with ULM.
Did you mean they will NOT go to the SBC as long as ULM is in the SBC. You must have been rushing, what you said was confusing, or my coffee has something in it.
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RE: Any possibilty of a "move down"
LaTech would burn to death before joining ULL and ULM. MTSU is not rejoining anything called SBC ever again as it would be perceived as "step back" by this students who don't attend games.
USM or UAB might after years of us performing better and if the money was better...ask again in 10 years.
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05-08-2014 04:29 PM |
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RE: Any possibilty of a "move down"
(05-08-2014 04:29 PM)ark30inf Wrote: LaTech would burn to death before joining ULL and ULM. MTSU is not rejoining anything called SBC ever again as it would be perceived as "step back" by this students who don't attend games.
USM or UAB might after years of us performing better and if the money was better...ask again in 10 years.
Tech might join a conference with UL. They will torch their own campus before being in a conference with ULM.
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RE: Any possibilty of a "move down"
Gotta ask --- why does LaTech hate ULM so much?
Is it reciprocated, does ULM hate LaTech a lot?
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05-08-2014 04:55 PM |
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Re: RE: Any possibilty of a "move down"
(05-08-2014 04:55 PM)GoApps70 Wrote: Gotta ask --- why does LaTech hate ULM so much?
Is it reciprocated, does ULM hate LaTech a lot?
I don't think ULM fans hate LaTech as much....so everyone has to chip in and help them.
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05-08-2014 04:59 PM |
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RE: Any possibilty of a "move down"
My theory remains this:
1. No C-USA would consider Sun Belt until after 2015-16 because no one is walking away from the current TV deal.
2. If the next C-USA TV deal is not as attractive and the Sun Belt is able to use the renegotiation window to get similar money the dynamic becomes a bit different.
3. The highest threat to shift would be UAB and then only if it is the only way to clear the political opposition to an on-campus stadium.
4. The next highest threat would be the Texas schools if as a group it can be demonstrated that the revenue in Sun Belt with them in would be better (unlikely) than C-USA or essentially equal and unlike C-USA the political clout of the Texans would be such that they could dominate the awarding of conference events and such.
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RE: Any possibilty of a "move down"
Considering Neck pretty much voluntarily turned down a bowl game two years ago to avoid playing ULM, they'll never play in a league with the Warhawks. ULL is a different story, the two have a regular nonconference series...however its hard to say whether or not the same generosity would extend to playing in the same league.
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RE: Any possibilty of a "move down"
(05-08-2014 05:10 PM)chiefsfan Wrote: Considering Neck pretty much voluntarily turned down a bowl game two years ago to avoid playing ULM, they'll never play in a league with the Warhawks. ULL is a different story, the two have a regular nonconference series...however its hard to say whether or not the same generosity would extend to playing in the same league.
LaTech seemed pretty easy to get along with when the WAC was folding and
they needed a place to play. Why do you call them Neck? Is it a take off on Tech?
Back to basics, why do they hate ULM? Did ULM take away their candy or is it
some kind of false ego contempt like a lot of schools get that they think they are
better than someone else?
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RE: Any possibilty of a "move down"
No way in hell anyone comes back. Even if the tv deal isn't great, it'll be better than ours. If teams want to save on travel, I'd love to see a western orientated conference with state,ULL, la tech, Texas state, utsa, rice, utep, unt, southern miss, and Missouri state. Maybe NMSU.
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RE: Any possibilty of a "move down"
UAB is a basketball first school and last time I checked the SBC is football first, second, third, then maybe basketball but from what I read on this board baseball might be more important.
unless basketball becomes a lot more important no way UAB is moving
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RE: Any possibilty of a "move down"
(05-08-2014 05:23 PM)GoApps70 Wrote: (05-08-2014 05:10 PM)chiefsfan Wrote: Considering Neck pretty much voluntarily turned down a bowl game two years ago to avoid playing ULM, they'll never play in a league with the Warhawks. ULL is a different story, the two have a regular nonconference series...however its hard to say whether or not the same generosity would extend to playing in the same league.
LaTech seemed pretty easy to get along with when the WAC was folding and they needed a place to play. Why do you call them Neck? Is it a take off on Tech?
Back to basics, why do they hate ULM? Did ULM take away their candy or is it some kind of false ego contempt like a lot of schools get that they think they are better than someone else?
As I'm married to a techster, I'd say it's the last part regarding ego. But when there's
2 fbs schools 30 minutes apart, you've gotta do something to separate yourself for recruiting, etc, which apparently tech has done a better job at. There are limited resources to go around in Louisiana and tech has set itself apart regarding facilities, enrollment, etc.
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05-08-2014 05:29 PM |
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RE: Any possibilty of a "move down"
As far as Tech...
no way in hell
The SBC offered 4 C-USA schools just a year or two ago and no one took the bait
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05-08-2014 05:30 PM |
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RE: Any possibilty of a "move down"
(05-08-2014 05:30 PM)WKUYG Wrote: As far as Tech...
no way in hell
The SBC offered 4 C-USA schools just a year or two ago and no one took the bait
Who did they offer?
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RE: Any possibilty of a "move down"
(05-08-2014 05:29 PM)Redwolves06 Wrote: (05-08-2014 05:23 PM)GoApps70 Wrote: (05-08-2014 05:10 PM)chiefsfan Wrote: Considering Neck pretty much voluntarily turned down a bowl game two years ago to avoid playing ULM, they'll never play in a league with the Warhawks. ULL is a different story, the two have a regular nonconference series...however its hard to say whether or not the same generosity would extend to playing in the same league.
LaTech seemed pretty easy to get along with when the WAC was folding and they needed a place to play. Why do you call them Neck? Is it a take off on Tech?
Back to basics, why do they hate ULM? Did ULM take away their candy or is it some kind of false ego contempt like a lot of schools get that they think they are better than someone else?
As I'm married to a techster, I'd say it's the last part regarding ego. But when there's
2 fbs schools 30 minutes apart, you've gotta do something to separate yourself for recruiting, etc, which apparently tech has done a better job at. There are limited resources to go around in Louisiana and tech has set itself apart regarding facilities, enrollment, etc.
Ahhhhhh, 30 minutes apart. That probably explains a lot. Us newbie Easterners have no concept sometimes.
Why Neck? Is it in an area called the Neck of La.?
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RE: Any possibilty of a "move down"
(05-08-2014 05:38 PM)GoApps70 Wrote: (05-08-2014 05:29 PM)Redwolves06 Wrote: (05-08-2014 05:23 PM)GoApps70 Wrote: (05-08-2014 05:10 PM)chiefsfan Wrote: Considering Neck pretty much voluntarily turned down a bowl game two years ago to avoid playing ULM, they'll never play in a league with the Warhawks. ULL is a different story, the two have a regular nonconference series...however its hard to say whether or not the same generosity would extend to playing in the same league.
LaTech seemed pretty easy to get along with when the WAC was folding and they needed a place to play. Why do you call them Neck? Is it a take off on Tech?
Back to basics, why do they hate ULM? Did ULM take away their candy or is it some kind of false ego contempt like a lot of schools get that they think they are better than someone else?
As I'm married to a techster, I'd say it's the last part regarding ego. But when there's
2 fbs schools 30 minutes apart, you've gotta do something to separate yourself for recruiting, etc, which apparently tech has done a better job at. There are limited resources to go around in Louisiana and tech has set itself apart regarding facilities, enrollment, etc.
Ahhhhhh, 30 minutes apart. That probably explains a lot. Us newbie Easterners have no concept sometimes.
Why Neck? Is it in an area called the Neck of La.?
Just sun belt posters trying to be funny...
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RE: Any possibilty of a "move down"
(05-08-2014 05:10 PM)arkstfan Wrote: My theory remains this:
1. No C-USA would consider Sun Belt until after 2015-16 because no one is walking away from the current TV deal.
2. If the next C-USA TV deal is not as attractive and the Sun Belt is able to use the renegotiation window to get similar money the dynamic becomes a bit different.
3. The highest threat to shift would be UAB and then only if it is the only way to clear the political opposition to an on-campus stadium.
4. The next highest threat would be the Texas schools if as a group it can be demonstrated that the revenue in Sun Belt with them in would be better (unlikely) than C-USA or essentially equal and unlike C-USA the political clout of the Texans would be such that they could dominate the awarding of conference events and such.
Uab is tied to the ua bot. An on campus stadium was as much as done when the ua bot said no. Moving to the sbc will not help with this matter. Leaving the ua bot will.
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RE: Any possibilty of a "move down"
(05-08-2014 04:17 PM)asupatch Wrote: Not this year but if we continue to show well against our peer conferences, any chance we can pull over a UAB LaTech Southern Miss or even MTSU? Keep travel down and sell more tickets as the opponents would be closer to home and should in theory bring more fans with them.
UAB will not sell more tickets.. however just down the road about half way to ga st. is a school that will.
Shorter travel more fans.
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05-08-2014 05:57 PM |
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RE: Any possibilty of a "move down"
(05-08-2014 05:38 PM)GoApps70 Wrote: (05-08-2014 05:29 PM)Redwolves06 Wrote: (05-08-2014 05:23 PM)GoApps70 Wrote: (05-08-2014 05:10 PM)chiefsfan Wrote: Considering Neck pretty much voluntarily turned down a bowl game two years ago to avoid playing ULM, they'll never play in a league with the Warhawks. ULL is a different story, the two have a regular nonconference series...however its hard to say whether or not the same generosity would extend to playing in the same league.
LaTech seemed pretty easy to get along with when the WAC was folding and they needed a place to play. Why do you call them Neck? Is it a take off on Tech?
Back to basics, why do they hate ULM? Did ULM take away their candy or is it some kind of false ego contempt like a lot of schools get that they think they are better than someone else?
As I'm married to a techster, I'd say it's the last part regarding ego. But when there's
2 fbs schools 30 minutes apart, you've gotta do something to separate yourself for recruiting, etc, which apparently tech has done a better job at. There are limited resources to go around in Louisiana and tech has set itself apart regarding facilities, enrollment, etc.
Ahhhhhh, 30 minutes apart. That probably explains a lot. Us newbie Easterners have no concept sometimes.
Why Neck? Is it in an area called the Neck of La.?
Many of our schools had a rivalry with those guys at some point. Thus they earn a not so nice nickname.
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