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RE: Sun Belt informs EKU it will not expand with FCS team
(04-25-2014 09:38 PM)cleburneslim Wrote:  Lmao !!!

I know, Slim... I loved seeing all the hype over EKU, knowing they were NO where near ready, but it was fun to read it. I say the Sun Belt go after C-USA, MAC, and Iditarod Conference teams now that they turned down EKU. I gotta place a hashtag just for the fun of it... #smileyfaceconference
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Still better than JSU. Good luck in the Kidd this year. Enjoy our SEC fullback and running back combo.

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(04-25-2014 09:33 PM)uakronkid Wrote:  
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(04-25-2014 08:26 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  This seems highly unlikely that EKU would send that email to their students.

If they actually did, then EKU doesn't have much professionalism.

self defecation(EKU is out, this emails show it) is much easier to believe than someone saying they were sent something that say EKU is #12.

So that lie picks up a lot more speed and spreads faster than one patting their school on the back.

I really, really hope you meant "self deprecation."
lol yeah that! unless there's some weird fetish I tapped into over at EKU
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(04-25-2014 09:45 PM)Colonels12 Wrote:  Still better than JSU. Good luck in the Kidd this year. Enjoy our SEC fullback and running back combo.

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Yo, Colonel... That wasn't a knock against EKU dude. You aren't ready yet, which is true, but re-read my post. Not slamming you guys, so don't don't get nuts on me.

Just like JSU, I know you have SEC transfers. JSU is like SEC transfer U lately, but using Ealey as an example, sometimes that doesn't mean much...
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(04-25-2014 09:31 PM)Colonels12 Wrote:  
(04-25-2014 08:26 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  This seems highly unlikely that EKU would send that email to their students.

If they actually did, then EKU doesn't have much professionalism.

How is it unprofessional? It was a very hot topic around the community. I know I was getting texts from friends not in the area wanting to know the latest news. On campus it was a very popular topic.

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Because an official statement should have been released before EKU started emailing their students.

Besides, I still doubt the validity of the story.
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(04-25-2014 08:37 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  I think we will know something in the next 2-3 weeks. If we do invite UMass for FB and NMSU for all sports it really doesn't address the issue of App having a travel partner at all.

Travel partners are for full up Olympic sports, so that would be:
Appy State, Georgia State, Georgia Southern, Troy, USA, ULL, ULM, stAte, US-Little Rock, UT-Arlington, Texas State, NMSU.

Is there any way that sorts out into six pairs of travel partners? Indeed, if NMSU is not paired, then that implies a second school not paired, which could well be:

NMSU
UT-Arlington / Texas State
stAte / US-Little Rock
ULM / ULL
Troy / USA
GA State / GA Southern
Appy State

But if, say, Texas State was "paired" with NMSU (is there a San Antonio / El Paso shuttle?), that seems like it would domino across the southern tier of the conference:
NMSU / Texas State,
therefore UT-Arlington / ULM
therefore ULL / USA
therefore Troy / GA Southern
therefore GA State / Appy State
... the only pair untouched would be stAte / UA-Little Rock.
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RE: Sun Belt informs EKU it will not expand with FCS team
Moving to FBS is a huge jump in many ways, bigger than most think.
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Sun Belt informs EKU it will not expand with FCS team
SBC needs stability. UMass doesn't help there. Benson has a serious WAC fear.

Hope NMSU joins for all sports now. In 2 years, UMass and Idaho need to be headed elsewhere. Missouri st and EKU at that point?
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(04-25-2014 10:24 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  SBC needs stability. UMass doesn't help there. Benson has a serious WAC fear.

Hope NMSU joins for all sports now. In 2 years, UMass and Idaho need to be headed elsewhere. Missouri st and EKU at that point?

UMass accomplishes the goal of getting to 12, and leaves options for picking up all sports members down the road.
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(04-25-2014 10:24 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  SBC needs stability. UMass doesn't help there. Benson has a serious WAC fear.

Hope NMSU joins for all sports now. In 2 years, UMass and Idaho need to be headed elsewhere. Missouri st and EKU at that point?

UMASS works perfect, and in many ways is the best choice from purely a football perspective than any choice out there. They are a flagship school, they bring in new states and media markets, they are already FBS, they are making investments in football infrastructure NOW, and they want to join.

As for what happens in two years? Who knows! Any decision should be made by making the best choice of the available options. UMASS is the best choice by far. I prefer to think and assume UMASS and Idaho will be good members that will add value to the conference. They both have to have somewhere to go before they can leave.... And there are signs everywhere that realignment is slowing down. Should UMASS and Idaho flourish in the SBC why change? If either has something else to pursue, I'm sure the process will start over again, but I think we will be set with these teams for another 4-5 years or more. By then, EKU can prove they want to be FBS by putting money where their mouth is as well as MSU, LIBERTY can further distance itself from its past and win some football championships, and JMU can get their head out of their pompous backside and decide to finally evolve. Anything can happen.
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(04-25-2014 10:41 PM)GoAppsGo92 Wrote:  
(04-25-2014 10:24 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  SBC needs stability. UMass doesn't help there. Benson has a serious WAC fear.

Hope NMSU joins for all sports now. In 2 years, UMass and Idaho need to be headed elsewhere. Missouri st and EKU at that point?

UMASS works perfect, and in many ways is the best choice from purely a football perspective than any choice out there. They are a flagship school, they bring in new states and media markets, they are already FBS, they are making investments in football infrastructure NOW, and they want to join.

As for what happens in two years? Who knows! Any decision should be made by making the best choice of the available options. UMASS is the best choice by far. I prefer to think and assume UMASS and Idaho will be good members that will add value to the conference. They both have to have somewhere to go before they can leave.... And there are signs everywhere that realignment is slowing down. Should UMASS and Idaho flourish in the SBC why change? If either has something else to pursue, I'm sure the process will start over again, but I think we will be set with these teams for another 4-5 years or more. By then, EKU can prove they want to be FBS by putting money where their mouth is as well as MSU, LIBERTY can further distance itself from its past and win some football championships, and JMU can get their head out of their pompous backside and decide to finally evolve. Anything can happen.

JMU is a separate issue. I know we screwed the pooch.

JMU won't ever join the SBC. I think that has been made clear. I hate it, but I'm not in control.

UMass and Idaho aren't the answer, but they're all that's available. Better than liberty and EKU, for now.
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(04-25-2014 10:50 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  
(04-25-2014 10:41 PM)GoAppsGo92 Wrote:  
(04-25-2014 10:24 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  SBC needs stability. UMass doesn't help there. Benson has a serious WAC fear.

Hope NMSU joins for all sports now. In 2 years, UMass and Idaho need to be headed elsewhere. Missouri st and EKU at that point?

UMASS works perfect, and in many ways is the best choice from purely a football perspective than any choice out there. They are a flagship school, they bring in new states and media markets, they are already FBS, they are making investments in football infrastructure NOW, and they want to join.

As for what happens in two years? Who knows! Any decision should be made by making the best choice of the available options. UMASS is the best choice by far. I prefer to think and assume UMASS and Idaho will be good members that will add value to the conference. They both have to have somewhere to go before they can leave.... And there are signs everywhere that realignment is slowing down. Should UMASS and Idaho flourish in the SBC why change? If either has something else to pursue, I'm sure the process will start over again, but I think we will be set with these teams for another 4-5 years or more. By then, EKU can prove they want to be FBS by putting money where their mouth is as well as MSU, LIBERTY can further distance itself from its past and win some football championships, and JMU can get their head out of their pompous backside and decide to finally evolve. Anything can happen.

JMU is a separate issue. I know we screwed the pooch.

JMU won't ever join the SBC. I think that has been made clear. I hate it, but I'm not in control.

UMass and Idaho aren't the answer, but they're all that's available. Better than liberty and EKU, for now.

Let's be clear: They are a hell of a lot better. Both flagship, both FBS. And "for now" could be 4 years, or it could be 10. If we get to 12 with this deal, we are good to go until further notice. None of us can predict the future, but I have to say that the SBC has fared pretty darn well in the realignment race if this deal brings in NMSU as a full member plus UMASS. Not bad at all.
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(04-25-2014 10:11 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  
(04-25-2014 09:31 PM)Colonels12 Wrote:  
(04-25-2014 08:26 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  This seems highly unlikely that EKU would send that email to their students.

If they actually did, then EKU doesn't have much professionalism.

How is it unprofessional? It was a very hot topic around the community. I know I was getting texts from friends not in the area wanting to know the latest news. On campus it was a very popular topic.

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Because an official statement should have been released before EKU started emailing their students.

Besides, I still doubt the validity of the story.

EKU president tweet the Sun Belt will not be adding an FCS school. Go to his twitter account if you want proof. Still came from the mans mouth and not a inside source.
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(04-25-2014 11:21 PM)GoAppsGo92 Wrote:  
(04-25-2014 10:50 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  
(04-25-2014 10:41 PM)GoAppsGo92 Wrote:  
(04-25-2014 10:24 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  SBC needs stability. UMass doesn't help there. Benson has a serious WAC fear.

Hope NMSU joins for all sports now. In 2 years, UMass and Idaho need to be headed elsewhere. Missouri st and EKU at that point?

UMASS works perfect, and in many ways is the best choice from purely a football perspective than any choice out there. They are a flagship school, they bring in new states and media markets, they are already FBS, they are making investments in football infrastructure NOW, and they want to join.

As for what happens in two years? Who knows! Any decision should be made by making the best choice of the available options. UMASS is the best choice by far. I prefer to think and assume UMASS and Idaho will be good members that will add value to the conference. They both have to have somewhere to go before they can leave.... And there are signs everywhere that realignment is slowing down. Should UMASS and Idaho flourish in the SBC why change? If either has something else to pursue, I'm sure the process will start over again, but I think we will be set with these teams for another 4-5 years or more. By then, EKU can prove they want to be FBS by putting money where their mouth is as well as MSU, LIBERTY can further distance itself from its past and win some football championships, and JMU can get their head out of their pompous backside and decide to finally evolve. Anything can happen.

JMU is a separate issue. I know we screwed the pooch.

JMU won't ever join the SBC. I think that has been made clear. I hate it, but I'm not in control.

UMass and Idaho aren't the answer, but they're all that's available. Better than liberty and EKU, for now.

Let's be clear: They are a hell of a lot better. Both flagship, both FBS. And "for now" could be 4 years, or it could be 10. If we get to 12 with this deal, we are good to go until further notice. None of us can predict the future, but I have to say that the SBC has fared pretty darn well in the realignment race if this deal brings in NMSU as a full member plus UMASS. Not bad at all.

UMass you can MAYBE argue. Flagship in NE mean zero for football. Maine and UNH are bordering flagships. UNH has has way more consistent success than UMass.

Idaho isn't even a flagship (dumb term, btw). And being the flagship who draws under 5k/game means zilch.

This isn't where ASU wanted to be. Make no mistake. Your admin had the balls to jump (and an established rival), ours didn't. I wish we had joined ASU, but it wasn't ideal.
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(04-25-2014 11:42 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  
(04-25-2014 11:21 PM)GoAppsGo92 Wrote:  
(04-25-2014 10:50 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  
(04-25-2014 10:41 PM)GoAppsGo92 Wrote:  
(04-25-2014 10:24 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  SBC needs stability. UMass doesn't help there. Benson has a serious WAC fear.

Hope NMSU joins for all sports now. In 2 years, UMass and Idaho need to be headed elsewhere. Missouri st and EKU at that point?

UMASS works perfect, and in many ways is the best choice from purely a football perspective than any choice out there. They are a flagship school, they bring in new states and media markets, they are already FBS, they are making investments in football infrastructure NOW, and they want to join.

As for what happens in two years? Who knows! Any decision should be made by making the best choice of the available options. UMASS is the best choice by far. I prefer to think and assume UMASS and Idaho will be good members that will add value to the conference. They both have to have somewhere to go before they can leave.... And there are signs everywhere that realignment is slowing down. Should UMASS and Idaho flourish in the SBC why change? If either has something else to pursue, I'm sure the process will start over again, but I think we will be set with these teams for another 4-5 years or more. By then, EKU can prove they want to be FBS by putting money where their mouth is as well as MSU, LIBERTY can further distance itself from its past and win some football championships, and JMU can get their head out of their pompous backside and decide to finally evolve. Anything can happen.

JMU is a separate issue. I know we screwed the pooch.

JMU won't ever join the SBC. I think that has been made clear. I hate it, but I'm not in control.

UMass and Idaho aren't the answer, but they're all that's available. Better than liberty and EKU, for now.

Let's be clear: They are a hell of a lot better. Both flagship, both FBS. And "for now" could be 4 years, or it could be 10. If we get to 12 with this deal, we are good to go until further notice. None of us can predict the future, but I have to say that the SBC has fared pretty darn well in the realignment race if this deal brings in NMSU as a full member plus UMASS. Not bad at all.

UMass you can MAYBE argue. Flagship in NE mean zero for football. Maine and UNH are bordering flagships. UNH has has way more consistent success than UMass.

Idaho isn't even a flagship (dumb term, btw). And being the flagship who draws under 5k/game means zilch.

UMASS, IDAHO, and NMSU are the top 1-2 state schools in each state, and they add value to the conference in reach and prestige. UMASS is completing their stadium enhancements and will start playing in Amherst on campus which will help attendance tremendously. If we complete our lineup with UMASS after pulling its program from the MAC that's a big win for the SBC. With all changes considered over the last 2 years in college football, the SBC has done very, very well for itself.
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UMass is playing Boston College and Colorado in Foxboro this season, both as home games. I believe they are playing 3 games in Gillette stadium until renovations are done. Could see some Sun Belt games played there.
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(04-25-2014 11:42 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  
(04-25-2014 11:21 PM)GoAppsGo92 Wrote:  
(04-25-2014 10:50 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  
(04-25-2014 10:41 PM)GoAppsGo92 Wrote:  
(04-25-2014 10:24 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  SBC needs stability. UMass doesn't help there. Benson has a serious WAC fear.

Hope NMSU joins for all sports now. In 2 years, UMass and Idaho need to be headed elsewhere. Missouri st and EKU at that point?

UMASS works perfect, and in many ways is the best choice from purely a football perspective than any choice out there. They are a flagship school, they bring in new states and media markets, they are already FBS, they are making investments in football infrastructure NOW, and they want to join.

As for what happens in two years? Who knows! Any decision should be made by making the best choice of the available options. UMASS is the best choice by far. I prefer to think and assume UMASS and Idaho will be good members that will add value to the conference. They both have to have somewhere to go before they can leave.... And there are signs everywhere that realignment is slowing down. Should UMASS and Idaho flourish in the SBC why change? If either has something else to pursue, I'm sure the process will start over again, but I think we will be set with these teams for another 4-5 years or more. By then, EKU can prove they want to be FBS by putting money where their mouth is as well as MSU, LIBERTY can further distance itself from its past and win some football championships, and JMU can get their head out of their pompous backside and decide to finally evolve. Anything can happen.

JMU is a separate issue. I know we screwed the pooch.

JMU won't ever join the SBC. I think that has been made clear. I hate it, but I'm not in control.

UMass and Idaho aren't the answer, but they're all that's available. Better than liberty and EKU, for now.

Let's be clear: They are a hell of a lot better. Both flagship, both FBS. And "for now" could be 4 years, or it could be 10. If we get to 12 with this deal, we are good to go until further notice. None of us can predict the future, but I have to say that the SBC has fared pretty darn well in the realignment race if this deal brings in NMSU as a full member plus UMASS. Not bad at all.

UMass you can MAYBE argue. Flagship in NE mean zero for football. Maine and UNH are bordering flagships. UNH has has way more consistent success than UMass.

Idaho isn't even a flagship (dumb term, btw). And being the flagship who draws under 5k/game means zilch.

This isn't where ASU wanted to be. Make no mistake. Your admin had the balls to jump (and an established rival), ours didn't. I wish we had joined ASU, but it wasn't ideal.

AppState is just fine where it is. We committed to FBS and made the best choice available and can now have a say in not only our own future, but the conference as well. UMASS is supported by our university as a SBC member. Whatever comes down the pike in the future... AppState is in a better position to take advantage of it as a member of the SBC and FBS.
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I saw someone mention Southern Miss...

Dare to dream, sir.
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(04-25-2014 10:24 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  SBC needs stability. UMass doesn't help there. Benson has a serious WAC fear.

Hope NMSU joins for all sports now. In 2 years, UMass and Idaho need to be headed elsewhere. Missouri st and EKU at that point?

Fear of what?

Liberty isn't going anywhere. Neither is Jax State. Neither is EKU. Neither is Lamar. All four of them would jump tomorrow and spend whatever it took to make the move. If they don't have the money, they'll borrow or steal it. And JMU, in the likely event that they are going nowhere but the CAA, will probably have a serious case of buyers remorse. Missouri State might also come to the table.

The WAC was a special case. The Sun Belt could go to 16 if we wanted to next year.

The only way a WAC situation is even possible is in the unlikely event that the NCAA allows entire FCS conferences to move up to the G5. And even then, the Belt will be a far better and more desirable conference than a conference comprised solely of FCS moveups.
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(04-25-2014 11:29 PM)statefanatic Wrote:  
(04-25-2014 10:11 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  
(04-25-2014 09:31 PM)Colonels12 Wrote:  
(04-25-2014 08:26 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  This seems highly unlikely that EKU would send that email to their students.

If they actually did, then EKU doesn't have much professionalism.

How is it unprofessional? It was a very hot topic around the community. I know I was getting texts from friends not in the area wanting to know the latest news. On campus it was a very popular topic.

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Because an official statement should have been released before EKU started emailing their students.

Besides, I still doubt the validity of the story.

EKU president tweet the Sun Belt will not be adding an FCS school. Go to his twitter account if you want proof. Still came from the mans mouth and not a inside source.
I didn't see it.
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