(04-26-2014 11:59 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(04-25-2014 11:10 AM)stxrunner Wrote:  

(04-24-2014 01:53 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(04-24-2014 01:25 PM)stxrunner Wrote:  Reading this is exactly why I get annoyed when I heard the new schools whining and complaining when discussing the split of revenue from the old conference holdovers and new schools. It's hard to fathom why anyone had anything to whine about period considering what they are receiving out of the conference move.

But if the C-7 was forced to stay at least a year the exit money would have been distributed across all the 2013 schools. USF, Cincy, and Uconn didn't mind that early exit because of the war chest $$$. That was my issue. It doesn't matter now, time to make the best of what we got.

Just to be clear, teams like UCF earned it. We are currently in 1st place in 2 out of the 3 major sports. The idea that we are riding coattails is laughable. UCF joined the big east before it completey got gutted.

First, USF, Cincy, and UConn had nothing to do with the decision of the C7 to leave. They didn't force them out or demand they leave early so they could rake in money. To imply so is false. The BE holdovers would have much rather had the C7 stay in the conference than leave.

Second, UCF is certainly earning their money this year, but you can't make a legitimate argument that they earned money from the old BE conference. I certainly don't think UCF is riding coattails, but you had nothing to do with the money earned under the old conference. I never saw why people thought that their school was entitled to it.

In the end, the deal that was struck was fair enough, so I probably should have never brought it up.

You realize you guys (USF, Uconn, and Cincy) got nothing if the newbies didn't join. We actually joined the big east. The complete meltdown happened later. You sold the rights to the big east name which UCF signed up for with our commitment. To me it seems fair that money was distributed out and which it was more.

Anyway, this is long history that isn't going to change. Everyone will be on a level playing field soon.

FWIW, I didn't and don't have a problem with how the legacy money was distributed. Sure it would have been nice for the three of us to get 100%, but the newbies did incur losses as well so the 60-40 split was reasonable.

(04-26-2014 09:23 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  2 million from TV + either 3.33 or 1 million from exit fees + 1.50 million from basketball units + football bowl playoff money

Football playoff money should be about $1.7 million per school and another $300k or so for our other bowls, so add it up and it comes to close to $9 million per year for USF.

That is about the same as the $4 million we got from the last Big East media deal plus the $3.5 million we got from our old bowls (which includes the BCS bowl payout), and $1.5 million for basketball units, which also came to about $9 million per year.

Problem is, the typical P5 school is going to be getting something like this:

Media money: $20 million
playoff and bowl money: $9 million
NCAA money: $2 million

Total: $31 million

So whereas in the past, the gap between a conference like the Big 12 and the Big East was on the order of $21 million (all sources) to $9 million, it will now be about $31 million to $9 million.

The gap has grown from $12 million to $22 million per year.

That's a big-arse gap, and it's annual, every-year gap.

Correct and that's why is very important for ALL the AAC schools to increase what they bring in donations and ticket sales. Something similar to what Louisville was able to create

(04-26-2014 01:37 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  Correct and that's why is very important for ALL the AAC schools to increase what they bring in donations and ticket sales. Something similar to what Louisville was able to create

Between me and you, it's only really important that USF does it. History shows that schools, not conferences, get promoted.

(04-26-2014 04:04 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(04-26-2014 01:37 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  Correct and that's why is very important for ALL the AAC schools to increase what they bring in donations and ticket sales. Something similar to what Louisville was able to create

Between me and you, it's only really important that USF does it. History shows that schools, not conferences, get promoted.

LOL. How many tines are you going to repeat the same song? We all know it by now very well.

(04-26-2014 04:16 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(04-26-2014 04:04 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(04-26-2014 01:37 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  Correct and that's why is very important for ALL the AAC schools to increase what they bring in donations and ticket sales. Something similar to what Louisville was able to create

Between me and you, it's only really important that USF does it. History shows that schools, not conferences, get promoted.

LOL. How many tines are you going to repeat the same song? We all know it by now very well.

Likewise. At least my song rings true.

(04-26-2014 04:22 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(04-26-2014 04:16 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(04-26-2014 04:04 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(04-26-2014 01:37 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  Correct and that's why is very important for ALL the AAC schools to increase what they bring in donations and ticket sales. Something similar to what Louisville was able to create

Between me and you, it's only really important that USF does it. History shows that schools, not conferences, get promoted.

LOL. How many tines are you going to repeat the same song? We all know it by now very well.

Likewise. At least my song rings true.

But this is NOT the forum to repeat it like a broken record. It accomplishes nothing.