Unlike any other school, BYU's decisions are driven by the LDS. They serve a PR function for the church, which doesn't care about thing so like bowl tie-ins, BCS access, etc.

Looking 3 years out to 2016, BYU already has 3 November games on the schedule - Cincinnati, Southern Miss, and Utah State. They also have a contract with Notre Dame for 4 more games by 2020, which appear to be coming in the 2017-20 timeframe. With UMass coming on the market as an independent in that same time frame, that's one more Indy looking to schedule games. BYU also has political leverage with Utah as well as Utah State to get games on their schedule.they also have ESPN helping them to come up with schedule deals.

If BYU comes around to seeing the need for a conference relationship for its football program, the Big XII or a return to the Mountain West would make the most sense. The money and travel just don't seem to make sense for an arrangement with the AAC.

If BYU needs a conference to get to the play off - join the MWC. It is the easier path. Get by Boise and go undefeated their in. MWC is a weaker conference to make that leap after Boise. They could probably write their own ticket like Boise too. They will be able to keep their own TV deal and leave their other sports in the WCC too. MWC conference takes Texas El Paso to get to 14 for FB and 12 for all sports. Helps to balance the Hawaii FB only situation too. Otherwise BYU holds with their current 4 and 4 MWC / AAC scheduling and signs on with bowls against the AAC in Miami, Orlando, along with their Poinsettia deal. They'll wait for the B-12 bid with Cinn when Texas and Oklahoma rubber stamp the deal to get back to a conference Championship Game to make more money for the conference.

(04-18-2014 12:17 PM)carolinaknights Wrote:  If BYU needs a conference to get to the play off - join the MWC. It is the easier path. Get by Boise and go undefeated their in. MWC is a weaker conference to make that leap after Boise. They could probably write their own ticket like Boise too. They will be able to keep their own TV deal and leave their other sports in the WCC too. MWC conference takes Texas El Paso to get to 14 for FB and 12 for all sports. Helps to balance the Hawaii FB only situation too. Otherwise BYU holds with their current 4 and 4 MWC / AAC scheduling and signs on with bowls against the AAC in Miami, Orlando, along with their Poinsettia deal. They'll wait for the B-12 bid with Cinn when Texas and Oklahoma rubber stamp the deal to get back to a conference Championship Game to make more money for the conference.

B12 was already in negotiations with them but backed out because they couldnt deal with the church and the Sunday game rules.

(04-18-2014 12:19 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(04-18-2014 12:17 PM)carolinaknights Wrote:  If BYU needs a conference to get to the play off - join the MWC. It is the easier path. Get by Boise and go undefeated their in. MWC is a weaker conference to make that leap after Boise. They could probably write their own ticket like Boise too. They will be able to keep their own TV deal and leave their other sports in the WCC too. MWC conference takes Texas El Paso to get to 14 for FB and 12 for all sports. Helps to balance the Hawaii FB only situation too. Otherwise BYU holds with their current 4 and 4 MWC / AAC scheduling and signs on with bowls against the AAC in Miami, Orlando, along with their Poinsettia deal. They'll wait for the B-12 bid with Cinn when Texas and Oklahoma rubber stamp the deal to get back to a conference Championship Game to make more money for the conference.

B12 was already in negotiations with them but backed out because they couldnt deal with the church and the Sunday game rules.

You don't play college FB on Sunday and their other sports are in another league now. BYU will be a little more flexible now that they were passed over in the PAC 12 sweepstakes with their arch rival Utah receiving the bid.

(04-18-2014 12:17 PM)Melky Cabrera Wrote:  Unlike any other school, BYU's decisions are driven by the LDS. They serve a PR function for the church, which doesn't care about thing so like bowl tie-ins, BCS access, etc.

Looking 3 years out to 2016, BYU already has 3 November games on the schedule - Cincinnati, Southern Miss, and Utah State. They also have a contract with Notre Dame for 4 more games by 2020, which appear to be coming in the 2017-20 timeframe. With UMass coming on the market as an independent in that same time frame, that's one more Indy looking to schedule games. BYU also has political leverage with Utah as well as Utah State to get games on their schedule.they also have ESPN helping them to come up with schedule deals.

If BYU comes around to seeing the need for a conference relationship for its football program, the Big XII or a return to the Mountain West would make the most sense. The money and travel just don't seem to make sense for an arrangement with the AAC.

This ^^^^^^^^

(04-18-2014 12:23 PM)carolinaknights Wrote:  

(04-18-2014 12:17 PM)Melky Cabrera Wrote:  Unlike any other school, BYU's decisions are driven by the LDS. They serve a PR function for the church, which doesn't care about thing so like bowl tie-ins, BCS access, etc.

Looking 3 years out to 2016, BYU already has 3 November games on the schedule - Cincinnati, Southern Miss, and Utah State. They also have a contract with Notre Dame for 4 more games by 2020, which appear to be coming in the 2017-20 timeframe. With UMass coming on the market as an independent in that same time frame, that's one more Indy looking to schedule games. BYU also has political leverage with Utah as well as Utah State to get games on their schedule.they also have ESPN helping them to come up with schedule deals.

If BYU comes around to seeing the need for a conference relationship for its football program, the Big XII or a return to the Mountain West would make the most sense. The money and travel just don't seem to make sense for an arrangement with the AAC.

This ^^^^^^^^

If they went to LDS and said their plan is falling apart. Cant find games to schedule or can't find post season agreements. Then LDS will have to allow them to join a conference.

I'm rooting for BYU to become bowl eligible and get snubbed from bowls this year. Not going to lie.

I am surprised that BYU was not part of the Miami Bowl. It seems like that would have been of interest to to Arescoand BYU. Holmoe flat out said that BYU wanted a series of 1 year agreements with multiple bowls. The Miami Bowl would have been a perfect place for a 1 year agreement.

Love how the Rutgers and fake UConn fan are chiming in on this

(04-18-2014 12:30 PM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  

(04-18-2014 12:23 PM)carolinaknights Wrote:  

(04-18-2014 12:17 PM)Melky Cabrera Wrote:  Unlike any other school, BYU's decisions are driven by the LDS. They serve a PR function for the church, which doesn't care about thing so like bowl tie-ins, BCS access, etc.

Looking 3 years out to 2016, BYU already has 3 November games on the schedule - Cincinnati, Southern Miss, and Utah State. They also have a contract with Notre Dame for 4 more games by 2020, which appear to be coming in the 2017-20 timeframe. With UMass coming on the market as an independent in that same time frame, that's one more Indy looking to schedule games. BYU also has political leverage with Utah as well as Utah State to get games on their schedule.they also have ESPN helping them to come up with schedule deals.

If BYU comes around to seeing the need for a conference relationship for its football program, the Big XII or a return to the Mountain West would make the most sense. The money and travel just don't seem to make sense for an arrangement with the AAC.

This ^^^^^^^^

If they went to LDS and said their plan is falling apart. Cant find games to schedule or can't find post season agreements. Then LDS will have to allow them to join a conference.

I'm rooting for BYU to become bowl eligible and get snubbed from bowls this year. Not going to lie.

Me too. Or even better, BYU ranked ahead of the G5 champ but doesn't go to the Access Bowl and still snubbed for all other bowls.

However, now that they are Indy, you can have them. They are too much of a hassle for us and their issues for coverage...etc

(04-18-2014 11:29 AM)Pirate1 Wrote:  BYU's football relationship with the American will probably end up like Notre Dame's is with the ACC or Big East back in the day. Play 4-5 American teams every year but on the back side they can take one of our bowl bids from us....

But - LOL! - what is there left to take?

BYU is in a world of hurt once most leagues move to a 9 game schedule. Not easy for BYU to get appealing games once conference schedules start. BYU would be a huge get for us if we can pull it off. BYU would surely help getting more tv appealing games and help with bowl negotiations.

Not getting my hopes up.

(04-18-2014 02:59 PM)BJUnklFkr Wrote:  

(04-18-2014 11:29 AM)Pirate1 Wrote:  BYU's football relationship with the American will probably end up like Notre Dame's is with the ACC or Big East back in the day. Play 4-5 American teams every year but on the back side they can take one of our bowl bids from us....

But - LOL! - what is there left to take?

I hear u. The thought is they get access to any of our bowls but we use them with our bowl negotiations. That would be a win for the AAC.

(04-18-2014 03:24 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  BYU is in a world of hurt once most leagues move to a 9 game schedule. Not easy for BYU to get appealing games once conference schedules start. BYU would be a huge get for us if we can pull it off. BYU would surely help getting more tv appealing games and help with bowl negotiations.

Not getting my hopes up.

Except they'll want their own TV package much like Texas. They already have their own BYUtv that show games so the AAC will have to give as the Big12 did for Texas.

(04-18-2014 03:32 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(04-18-2014 03:24 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  BYU is in a world of hurt once most leagues move to a 9 game schedule. Not easy for BYU to get appealing games once conference schedules start. BYU would be a huge get for us if we can pull it off. BYU would surely help getting more tv appealing games and help with bowl negotiations.

Not getting my hopes up.

Except they'll want their own TV package much like Texas. They already have their own BYUtv that show games so the AAC will have to give as the Big12 did for Texas.

There could probably be something worked out if both sides agreed. Give them secondary access to tv rebroadcasts so they keep content on BYU tv.

Our deal with ESPN would need to improve though.

The idea was positively received among BYU fans when I tested it on their board, albeit small sample size.

Nothing on the realignment front for BYU is going to happen unless the ESPN contract changes. That may happen if they can't find teams to play that their fans will not watch, but I find that improbable. Granted Aresco is keeping the option open, but knows this and not really pursuing this further.

BYU is going yo wait couple of years and see how the new playoffs bowl deal works out. If they see that they have no shot at a BCS style bowl as Indy they might join a conference

(04-18-2014 04:48 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  BYU is going yo wait couple of years and see how the new playoffs bowl deal works out. If they see that they have no shot at a BCS style bowl as Indy they might join a conference

I am not sure they will be affected about the playoff situation if the other bowls will still be interested as long as the fan base is there.

(04-18-2014 04:54 PM)sierrajip Wrote:  

(04-18-2014 04:48 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  BYU is going yo wait couple of years and see how the new playoffs bowl deal works out. If they see that they have no shot at a BCS style bowl as Indy they might join a conference

I am not sure they will be affected about the playoff situation if the other bowls will still be interested as long as the fan base is there.

Well I think that is what they are counting on. But remember they are competing vs P5 schools for those bowls and it's only a few open slots. The first time BYU goes 10-2 and sees themselves not chosen for an at large bowl slot is the day they will start to reconsider. Specially if they see a 11-2 G5 champ in those BCS bowls.

I wouldn't touch any MWC/former MWC school with a 10 foot pole if i were the AAC.