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Even Bobby Bowden got told to leave. Lame.
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Their is a long and distinguished list of Hall of fame coaches that were fired or "resigned". It's rare a coach ever goes out because he wants to. Well said MHB coaches are hired to be fired.
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(04-16-2014 06:03 PM)Hoekjeness Wrote:  Cubit got canned and left with him a 1-11 team.

You never answered my original question. How does a head coach ever become a head coach?

Not every first time head coach starts DII, or comes into a good situation for that matter.

I suppose we'll "return to this" (Martin and Creighton) in December.
So now last years debacle was all Cubit's fault. That's getting a bit desperate to paint your boy in a positive light.
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Like posting random slide shows to try and heap further derision on a coach you've been bagging on since he was hired desperate?

In all seriousness you can't blame Bill Cubit for last season. You should judge his tenure from 2005-2012. My beef with the cult of Bill crowd was always the excuse making and the attempt to inflate what he did do, I don't think its appropriate to do the inverse either.
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I agree Liam. If PJ wins 12 games next year or losses 12 games it's on him and you can't blame the guy before him. When PJ is gone the next guy will be judged on his own merit. Hawk gets credit for his first year 26-5 team.
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(04-16-2014 10:32 PM)Liam9903 Wrote:  Like posting random slide shows to try and heap further derision on a coach you've been bagging on since he was hired desperate?

In all seriousness you can't blame Bill Cubit for last season. You should judge his tenure from 2005-2012. My beef with the cult of Bill crowd was always the excuse making and the attempt to inflate what he did do, I don't think its appropriate to do the inverse either.

I agree. Don't think I have ever inflated BC's record. The MAC West leaders (NIU, UT and BSU) passed him and WMU bye the last three years of his reign. I also did not start "bagging" on PJ as soon as he was hired. May have questioned the hire & lack of experience, but held my criticism until after 9-7-13.

Singing the programs praises today? Don't think so. I may not be from Missouri, but they are going to have to show me. Great recruiting class, now lets see what's accomplished on the field come fall.
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Can't wait to see if this program can get some traction in year 2. I'm not going to withhold criticism if its warranted but I'm not going to kill the guy for going 1-11 instead of 3-9 in year 1 either. A one year sample size isn't enough for me to call it a bad hire, but of course we can't have another year like last year again. I don't think we will either.
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It is fair because that 1-11 team was about 90-95% Bill Cubit recruits.

This season is much more stacked with Fleck's players... young, but Fleck's players.
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(04-17-2014 06:13 AM)Hoekjeness Wrote:  It is fair because that 1-11 team was about 90-95% Bill Cubit recruits.

This season is much more stacked with Fleck's players... young, but Fleck's players.

BC never went 1-11 with, "his players". Never lost to an FCS team either.
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You're right, his players/recruits did.
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(04-17-2014 07:01 AM)Hoekjeness Wrote:  You're right, his players/recruits did.

They went through Winter Conditioning, Spring Practice, Summer Conditioning, Fall Camp, and a 12-game schedule under Fleck and staff.

He recruited-signed almost a third of them. The rest chose to stay and play for him (another form of recruitment).

They were-are HIS players. As it says in the record book.
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(04-17-2014 07:01 AM)Hoekjeness Wrote:  You're right, his players/recruits did.

LOL! Not with him at the HC! Even in his worst season they were competitive and beat a BCS team, not losing to a bad AA squad.

I'd say Peej earned the ranking and it's time for him to prove them wrong.
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You almost have to be trolling now.
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(04-16-2014 01:17 PM)Hoekjeness Wrote:  
(04-16-2014 12:49 PM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  0-0 still beats 1-11.

How? 0-0 = .000 winning percentage

0-0 is not .000, it is undefined.
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(04-17-2014 02:21 PM)thegeneral Wrote:  
(04-16-2014 01:17 PM)Hoekjeness Wrote:  
(04-16-2014 12:49 PM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  0-0 still beats 1-11.

How? 0-0 = .000 winning percentage

0-0 in not .000, it is undefined.

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Well if we're playing math games 1 is infinitely more than zero. So PJ Fleck has infinitely more D1 wins than that coach from Creighton or whatever that EMU hired.
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(04-17-2014 09:20 PM)Liam9903 Wrote:  Well if we're playing math games 1 is infinitely more than zero. So PJ Fleck has infinitely more D1 wins than that coach from Creighton or whatever that EMU hired.

New EMU has been a header for 17 years with a .751 winning percentage. He scares the shiite out of me.
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Quite the argument here, our 1-11 coach (by the skin of his teeth 1 win) is not the worst on a technicality, the guy we think should be worse than him hasn't coached yet?

wow. This year better be a marked improvement over that mess, that's all I have to say.
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(04-17-2014 09:43 PM)Kimbosucks Wrote:  
(04-17-2014 09:20 PM)Liam9903 Wrote:  Well if we're playing math games 1 is infinitely more than zero. So PJ Fleck has infinitely more D1 wins than that coach from Creighton or whatever that EMU hired.

New EMU has been a header for 17 years with a .751 winning percentage. He scares the shiite out of me.

Seriously why couldn't they just go all EMU and hire another D1 assistant who needed to learn on the job at probably the toughest FBS recruiting spot? I really liked that formula.
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(04-17-2014 10:42 PM)Liam9903 Wrote:  
(04-17-2014 09:43 PM)Kimbosucks Wrote:  
(04-17-2014 09:20 PM)Liam9903 Wrote:  Well if we're playing math games 1 is infinitely more than zero. So PJ Fleck has infinitely more D1 wins than that coach from Creighton or whatever that EMU hired.

New EMU has been a header for 17 years with a .751 winning percentage. He scares the shiite out of me.

Seriously why couldn't they just go all EMU and hire another D1 assistant who needed to learn on the job at probably the toughest FBS recruiting spot? I really liked that formula.


Sounds like they learned from that experience. There's always hope!! 03-thumbsup
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