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RE: Why are people calling for Idaho to drop down and not NMSU?
(04-14-2014 09:18 AM)SHWISH Wrote:  Similar boat Lamar is in. Lamar has the size, money, and sports to fit in the SBC.
Beaumont MSA is bigger than most SBC msa. Beaumont 1 hour drive from nation 4th largest city.
Lamar sits nearly half way between Texas st and UL. Perfect fit? no, Lamar is too far west as is Idaho too far west.

Lamar would be 4th or 5th fiddle in Houston sports. You are also struggling in the Southland. Also have a small stadium you aren't filling up. Roughly around 50th in FCS attendance. Which is 9th in Division II.
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RE: Why are people calling for Idaho to drop down and not NMSU?
I think most in the SBC don't really care if Idaho plays in FCS or FBS, but just do not like having to travel that far for a conference game. NMSU is much easier for the western members to travel to because of the airport at El Paso has numerous flights that come in from Houston (IAH).

If I were a Idaho fan, I think I would be asking the question about where they belong though. It would seem that playing in the Big Sky Conference would make a lot more sense, given the geography.
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"You don't have to go home, but you can't stay here."
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RE: Why are people calling for Idaho to drop down and not NMSU?
(04-14-2014 11:15 AM)The Black Flag Wrote:  "You don't have to go home, but you can't stay here."

As much as I hate Ga South I have to admit the numbers on your helmets are awesome. Off topic but was looking at your sig.
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(04-14-2014 11:17 AM)asupatch Wrote:  
(04-14-2014 11:15 AM)The Black Flag Wrote:  "You don't have to go home, but you can't stay here."

As much as I hate Ga South I have to admit the numbers on your helmets are awesome. Off topic but was looking at your sig.

We've got that old-school-cool thing going for us. 04-cheers
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RE: Why are people calling for Idaho to drop down and not NMSU?
(04-14-2014 11:14 AM)CW Fishman Wrote:  I think most in the SBC don't really care if Idaho plays in FCS or FBS, but just do not like having to travel that far for a conference game. NMSU is much easier for the western members to travel to because of the airport at El Paso has numerous flights that come in from Houston (IAH).

If I were a Idaho fan, I think I would be asking the question about where they belong though. It would seem that playing in the Big Sky Conference would make a lot more sense, given the geography.

you are right. Idaho has nothing in common with any sbc schools and is too far removed geographically to ever develop rivalries with any. they and their fans and supporters should just ramp up the pressure on the mwc to take them in..I am not bashing them but the mwc or another western conf. would be the best fit for them. I think nmsu can make something out of a sbc membership because they are closer and recruit in texas and have a history with several sbc schools. If we could get them for all sports and mo state we would have a nice western division.
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(04-13-2014 07:05 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  Just curious. Idaho always gets flack for staying in the FBS, but I never see people giving it to New Mexico State.

Well, for starters, NM St has an on-campus, and actually pretty nice OCS that seats over 30,000. Idaho has the Kibbie Dome, which seats less for football than many programs seat for basketball.
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RE: Why are people calling for Idaho to drop down and not NMSU?
(04-13-2014 07:09 PM)Bleeds_Purple Wrote:  
(04-13-2014 07:05 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  Just curious. Idaho always gets flack for staying in the FBS, but I never see people giving it to New Mexico State.
Better geography for New Mexico State I guess? Their proximity to Texas. They border Texas and Texas border's Louisiana etc.

Geography and the Kibbie Dome

NMSU has an approrpriate stadium for FBS football, is a plausible member for all sports (some would say desirable), and is considered to be a potential rival for at least one of our programs. NMSU can also leverage its Sun Belt membership for enhanced recruiting (NMSU recruits in the SBC footprint).

I don't think there is a single poster on this forum that wishes Idaho ill. But I'm not aware of any non-Idaho posters that actually want Idaho in the conference. I'd be very happy for Idaho and NMSU if the MWC decided to go to 14 and took both of them. We know that isn't likely to happen.

Idaho can help their case by doing something about their inappropriate stadium and their football success profile. Both of those actions are made more difficult by at least the perception that Idaho's tenure in FBS is very tenuous. Idaho is in a bad situation.
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I actually kind of like the Kibbie. Look forward to seeing it once before Idaho moves. I like weird little stadiums though. Very unique.
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RE: Why are people calling for Idaho to drop down and not NMSU?
(04-14-2014 11:02 AM)asupatch Wrote:  
(04-14-2014 09:18 AM)SHWISH Wrote:  Similar boat Lamar is in. Lamar has the size, money, and sports to fit in the SBC.
Beaumont MSA is bigger than most SBC msa. Beaumont 1 hour drive from nation 4th largest city.
Lamar sits nearly half way between Texas st and UL. Perfect fit? no, Lamar is too far west as is Idaho too far west.

Lamar would be 4th or 5th fiddle in Houston sports. You are also struggling in the Southland. Also have a small stadium you aren't filling up. Roughly around 50th in FCS attendance. Which is 9th in Division II.

Lamar isn't even on the radar in Houston. Beaumont/Port Arthur/Lake Charles is its own media market. SHSU has a much higher profile than Lamar in Houston. I'm talking about orders of magnitude.
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