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RE: Why are people calling for Idaho to drop down and not NMSU?
Geography and NMSU's basketball program. I honestly feel terrible for Idaho (and now UMass). I wished NDSt, EWU and other programs in that are moved up to save the WAC. In the future, who knows that may happen. I hope Idaho finds a conference that best fits their student athletes and their fan base. Unfortunately, that's not the Sun Belt.
04-14-2014 12:57 AM
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RE: Why are people calling for Idaho to drop down and not NMSU?
(04-14-2014 12:27 AM)dmacfour Wrote:  
(04-13-2014 08:07 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  1. Kibbie Dome. (when you had to 'borrow' Wash. St. stadium to qualify for FBS and still haven done any stadium expansion to get to 25K at minimum that's a big tell tale sign you are not FBS worthy)
2. Attendance. Even at 16k capacity you didn't sell out your tiny stadium. There some tickets sold but the crowd on TV showed around 6k.

Either start breaking ground on a stadium for FBS or go down to FCS.
Idaho is by no means that only one that should drop down. Eastern Michigan should drop down also....they even had worse attendance than Idaho. Performance on the field doesn't mean anything if you can't bring in the crowd. And if UMass can't get it together, they should drop back down also.

Here's the thing though: How can Idaho justify a 25K stadium when a P5 school can't hit capacity 6 miles away? Wazzu would barely fill a 25K stadium with their attendance figures. MWC schools struggle to hit 60% capacity with 30K+ stadiums. Idaho could certainly use 9K more seats for bigger games, needs they to work out other issues before worrying about looking good on paper.

But for what it's worth, they have plans to expand to 27K. Who knows when it'll actually happen.

Idaho needs the twenty million dollar expansion to 22k. That is what Western Kentucky has and they moved on or up depending on your view. The possibility of having to move down makes that expansion logical.
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RE: Why are people calling for Idaho to drop down and not NMSU?
Idaho does have a winning record vs NMSU and has one two bowl games in 15 years vs none in over fifty years. NMSU has publicly talked about moving down meaning their president. Idaho has never considered it only the public has.
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RE: Why are people calling for Idaho to drop down and not NMSU?
To paraphrase, you don't have to drop down, but you can't stay here.
I look forward to playing Idaho this year. I respect the school, but even if you had a good program you just don't fit the SBC. Wish you luck and hope things work out, but i just don't see a long future with the conference.
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Why are people calling for Idaho to drop down and not NMSU?
Hopefully Idaho will go undefeated out of conference the next few years and the MWC will beg to take them, that's the best scenario for all involved IMO
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RE: Why are people calling for Idaho to drop down and not NMSU?
(04-14-2014 06:07 AM)GaSouthern Wrote:  Hopefully Idaho will go undefeated out of conference the next few years and the MWC will beg to take them, that's the best scenario for all involved IMO

Idaho is a state flagship school of pretty high academic standing and represents the whole state. It's just a small state so they dont have a lot of clout but they try to hang at the top level and like schools like Delaware and Rhode Island and North Dakota they dont have large numbers working in their favor. nobody seems to be pushing for any of the mac schools to drop down and some of them only have a few thousand at home football games...
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RE: Why are people calling for Idaho to drop down and not NMSU?
(04-14-2014 12:27 AM)dmacfour Wrote:  
(04-13-2014 08:07 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  1. Kibbie Dome. (when you had to 'borrow' Wash. St. stadium to qualify for FBS and still haven done any stadium expansion to get to 25K at minimum that's a big tell tale sign you are not FBS worthy)
2. Attendance. Even at 16k capacity you didn't sell out your tiny stadium. There some tickets sold but the crowd on TV showed around 6k.

Either start breaking ground on a stadium for FBS or go down to FCS.
Idaho is by no means that only one that should drop down. Eastern Michigan should drop down also....they even had worse attendance than Idaho. Performance on the field doesn't mean anything if you can't bring in the crowd. And if UMass can't get it together, they should drop back down also.

Here's the thing though: How can Idaho justify a 25K stadium when a P5 school can't hit capacity 6 miles away? Wazzu would barely fill a 25K stadium with their attendance figures. MWC schools struggle to hit 60% capacity with 30K+ stadiums. Idaho could certainly use 9K more seats for bigger games, needs they to work out other issues before worrying about looking good on paper.

But for what it's worth, they have plans to expand to 27K. Who knows when it'll actually happen.

I don't think you saw WSU attendance figures last year. Their upgraded stadium has 33K capacity and averaged 29,737. They are actually upgrading the press box and club suites which I think was just completed.
Idaho has always had 'plans'. If Idaho was really serious about stay FBS they would actually have put in $$ into their facilites regardless, becasue that is what is necessary to be in this level. As for MWC schools, at least they have FBS stadiums and there are some schools preparing to build new stadiums.
Eastern Michigan...God love them, with their pitful 4k average attendance at least put $$ in a 30K stadium. I am calling for them to move down the FCS.
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RE: Why are people calling for Idaho to drop down and not NMSU?
Similar boat Lamar is in. Lamar has the size, money, and sports to fit in the SBC.
Beaumont MSA is bigger than most SBC msa. Beaumont 1 hour drive from nation 4th largest city.
Lamar sits nearly half way between Texas st and UL. Perfect fit? no, Lamar is too far west as is Idaho too far west.
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RE: Why are people calling for Idaho to drop down and not NMSU?
Same can be said of Jax st, perfect fit wrong location.
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RE: Why are people calling for Idaho to drop down and not NMSU?
Idaho is in Idaho. That is the problem.
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