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A big plus for UMASS
(04-15-2014 07:07 AM)perimeterpost Wrote:  
(04-14-2014 05:59 PM)MJG Wrote:  Getting Texas State from the WAC vs straight From FCS helps perception of the SBC .NMSU and Idaho even more so as far as how many FCS call ups at one time.

UMASS also benefits from that coming from the MAC.
Three WAC and one MAC school along with four FCS call ups.
That sounds better than eight FCS to FBS schools added.
The truth is more like six and two but perception is a funny thing. Four to six years from now the four recently transitioned teams will be established. So promoting three new schools to FBS will not look as bad. I think that is part of the reason both NMSU and Idaho were added and gives UMASS a chance.

Long term its less damaging to the conference image to be patient. Giving the right Southeastern schools time to get ready is also a benefit.

that's a technicality that very people outside of this inner circle would ever recognize. The casual observer will view Southern Alabama, Georgia Southern, Georgia State, App State, Texas State and UMass(if added) as recent FCS call ups and won't draw any distinction from coming up in 2012 or 2014.

Half of the Sun Belt is made up of new FCS call ups. It is what it is, might as well embrace it.

The casual observer won't think that way. I was a casual observer about 2 years ago so I still remember how stupid I was about all this and a casual observer sees a team play on tv and immediately thinks they are FBS and that includes espn3 9/10 times you ask someone about FCS/FBS they won't truly understand it and they will respond with a very inaccurate idea of the system.


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RE: A big plus for UMASS
So if we do not have to add anyone or have 12 for a championship game, seems only reason to
add one is to have the potential of a real home run winner. So emphasis should shift to a heavy
winner only then.
04-15-2014 09:40 AM
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RE: A big plus for UMASS
And we wonder why some people call the Sun Belt the armpit of FBS football. I don't believe that, but in some ways it's easy for outsiders to justify. No offense to Massachusetts or Idaho, but neither school belongs in the Belt. It makes us look desperate. Enough of this lifeline/temporary stuff, we need to use logic and expand within a reasonable footprint. On the positive side, I guess there is some safety in numbers.
04-16-2014 08:34 AM
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(04-16-2014 08:34 AM)pjc1979 Wrote:  And we wonder why some people call the Sun Belt the armpit of FBS football. I don't believe that, but in some ways it's easy for outsiders to justify. No offense to Massachusetts or Idaho, but neither school belongs in the Belt. It makes us look desperate. Enough of this lifeline/temporary stuff, we need to use logic and expand within a reasonable footprint. On the positive side, I guess there is some safety in numbers.

Is the Big 12 a desperate conference? They took WVU.
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A big plus for UMASS
Perhaps the Sun Belt should trade Texas State or Arkansas State for West Virginia.
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(04-13-2014 10:16 AM)MJG Wrote:  They host two BCS schools this year one that is local.
Expanding their on campus stadium and only playing these types of games at Gillette would be huge. How many non BCS schools can host a local BCS school or two in one year.

Boston College and Colorado

We've been doing it for decades.
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(04-16-2014 10:25 AM)asupatch Wrote:  Is the Big 12 a desperate conference? They took WVU.
At the time that they did, they were pretty desperate ... there was widespread concern that it would all come undone.

But they successfully rode out the period of uncertainty, sorted out their GOR and big TV money deal and now they got their mojo back.
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(04-15-2014 09:40 AM)GoApps70 Wrote:  So if we do not have to add anyone or have 12 for a championship game, seems only reason to
add one is to have the potential of a real home run winner. So emphasis should shift to a heavy
winner only then.

Who is available out there that has that potential? At this point, all of the candidate stack up pretty equally against each other. All of the "potential home run winners" out there have already joined conferences by now.
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(04-18-2014 05:21 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  
(04-15-2014 09:40 AM)GoApps70 Wrote:  So if we do not have to add anyone or have 12 for a championship game, seems only reason to
add one is to have the potential of a real home run winner. So emphasis should shift to a heavy
winner only then.

Who is available out there that has that potential? At this point, all of the candidate stack up pretty equally against each other. All of the "potential home run winners" out there have already joined conferences by now.
No one.
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RE: A big plus for UMASS
There is zero upside to UMASS. They are looking for safe harbor without payment.

As much as I abhor the thought of Liberty, they bring so much more to the table. Facilities pretty good, Television, all sports, and a desire to grow the conference,footprint.

The preference for all logical, smart people is to stand pat at this time, but if they are hell bent on dilution then Liberty is the best candidate short and long term.
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