(04-13-2014 09:54 AM)Old Dominion Wrote:  Banker-I did not read anything about an IVy school comparison. Are you inferring this ? The title says under rated by state, not incomparison to Ivy league schools. One could just as easily infer they mean most under rated in comparison to other schools within that state.

Reread the opening to the story. A few direct quotes:

"While the term "safety school" may have a negative connotation, it's unquestionably a smart decision to apply to at least one college you'll likely be accepted to."

Nothing needs to be inferred here. It doesn't come out and say the Ivy schools, but when looking at schools with low acceptance rates, that's the type schools they are talking about.

"Oftentimes, these schools' strong academic programs are overshadowed by the popular perception that a college is better if it's tougher to get into."

Again, clearly stating that the colleges they are listing are strong, in another spot they even call them great, but that they may be underrated by applicants because they are easier to get in to than some schools. Again, since the Ivies and similar schools have the lowest acceptance rates, I believe it is obvious who they are talking about.

So again, the only context in which they are calling these schools underrated is in the view of a small group of college bound kids who believe they can't get a good education if they don't get into a small subset of private schools.

I agree this list is completely bogus. I can promise you ULM isn't underrated at all.

(04-13-2014 04:14 PM)banker Wrote:  

(04-13-2014 09:54 AM)Old Dominion Wrote:  Banker-I did not read anything about an IVy school comparison. Are you inferring this ? The title says under rated by state, not incomparison to Ivy league schools. One could just as easily infer they mean most under rated in comparison to other schools within that state.

Reread the opening to the story. A few direct quotes:

"While the term "safety school" may have a negative connotation, it's unquestionably a smart decision to apply to at least one college you'll likely be accepted to."

Nothing needs to be inferred here. It doesn't come out and say the Ivy schools, but when looking at schools with low acceptance rates, that's the type schools they are talking about.

"Oftentimes, these schools' strong academic programs are overshadowed by the popular perception that a college is better if it's tougher to get into."

Again, clearly stating that the colleges they are listing are strong, in another spot they even call them great, but that they may be underrated by applicants because they are easier to get in to than some schools. Again, since the Ivies and similar schools have the lowest acceptance rates, I believe it is obvious who they are talking about.

So again, the only context in which they are calling these schools underrated is in the view of a small group of college bound kids who believe they can't get a good education if they don't get into a small subset of private schools.

not necessarily, not every state has an Ivy League school. 20+ years ago I applied to Ohio but Ohio State was my safety school because back then Ohio State took everybody. Based on the criteria of this article OSU would have been the "underrated" college at the time. 20 years later Ohio State has upped its admissions criteria significantly making Ohio the "underrated" school by comparison.

It's all relative and is not contingent on public vs private/ivy league.

Obviously, there's no editor proofing the article.
It's clear the writer meant "Overrated" in the story title.

(04-13-2014 09:40 PM)AtlantaEagle Wrote:  Obviously, there's no editor proofing the article.
It's clear the writer meant "Overrated" in the story title.

UofL the most underrated in Kentucky? Pretty sure that both UofL and UK get all the recognition they deserve and then some.

(04-12-2014 04:58 PM)RUNVSFD MINER Wrote:  TX A&M is so under-rated.

I don't know how they define underrated, but my thought was Univ. of Dallas.

In so many states, the top school is underrated? I'm not sure I get these ratings. LOL

(04-13-2014 08:07 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  

(04-13-2014 04:14 PM)banker Wrote:  

(04-13-2014 09:54 AM)Old Dominion Wrote:  Banker-I did not read anything about an IVy school comparison. Are you inferring this ? The title says under rated by state, not incomparison to Ivy league schools. One could just as easily infer they mean most under rated in comparison to other schools within that state.

Reread the opening to the story. A few direct quotes:

"While the term "safety school" may have a negative connotation, it's unquestionably a smart decision to apply to at least one college you'll likely be accepted to."

Nothing needs to be inferred here. It doesn't come out and say the Ivy schools, but when looking at schools with low acceptance rates, that's the type schools they are talking about.

"Oftentimes, these schools' strong academic programs are overshadowed by the popular perception that a college is better if it's tougher to get into."

Again, clearly stating that the colleges they are listing are strong, in another spot they even call them great, but that they may be underrated by applicants because they are easier to get in to than some schools. Again, since the Ivies and similar schools have the lowest acceptance rates, I believe it is obvious who they are talking about.

So again, the only context in which they are calling these schools underrated is in the view of a small group of college bound kids who believe they can't get a good education if they don't get into a small subset of private schools.

not necessarily, not every state has an Ivy League school. 20+ years ago I applied to Ohio but Ohio State was my safety school because back then Ohio State took everybody. Based on the criteria of this article OSU would have been the "underrated" college at the time. 20 years later Ohio State has upped its admissions criteria significantly making Ohio the "underrated" school by comparison.

It's all relative and is not contingent on public vs private/ivy league.

But every kid that applies to an Ivy League school comes from a state, which is why they listed a school from each state.

I am seriously baffled that a bunch of college educated people can't grasp what information this article is intended to convey. It's not that hard.

I am a kid that has applied to Yale, Columbia and Stanford. I live in the state of North Carolina. The acceptance rate of those three schools to which I have applied average about 7%. Hey, it would be a good idea to also apply to UNC because it's a really good school with a higher acceptance rate than those other schools. Just because it is easier to get in to UNC doesn't mean it's not a good school.

That's it, that's all the article is trying to convey. It's listing the best school in each state that doesn't have a very low acceptance rate.

Why yes, they did the University of Florida is the most underrated university in Florida.
We all know this list is a joke, but c'mon man!

(04-13-2014 10:53 PM)banker Wrote:  

(04-13-2014 08:07 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  

(04-13-2014 04:14 PM)banker Wrote:  

(04-13-2014 09:54 AM)Old Dominion Wrote:  Banker-I did not read anything about an IVy school comparison. Are you inferring this ? The title says under rated by state, not incomparison to Ivy league schools. One could just as easily infer they mean most under rated in comparison to other schools within that state.

Reread the opening to the story. A few direct quotes:

"While the term "safety school" may have a negative connotation, it's unquestionably a smart decision to apply to at least one college you'll likely be accepted to."

Nothing needs to be inferred here. It doesn't come out and say the Ivy schools, but when looking at schools with low acceptance rates, that's the type schools they are talking about.

"Oftentimes, these schools' strong academic programs are overshadowed by the popular perception that a college is better if it's tougher to get into."

Again, clearly stating that the colleges they are listing are strong, in another spot they even call them great, but that they may be underrated by applicants because they are easier to get in to than some schools. Again, since the Ivies and similar schools have the lowest acceptance rates, I believe it is obvious who they are talking about.

So again, the only context in which they are calling these schools underrated is in the view of a small group of college bound kids who believe they can't get a good education if they don't get into a small subset of private schools.

not necessarily, not every state has an Ivy League school. 20+ years ago I applied to Ohio but Ohio State was my safety school because back then Ohio State took everybody. Based on the criteria of this article OSU would have been the "underrated" college at the time. 20 years later Ohio State has upped its admissions criteria significantly making Ohio the "underrated" school by comparison.

It's all relative and is not contingent on public vs private/ivy league.

But every kid that applies to an Ivy League school comes from a state, which is why they listed a school from each state.

I am seriously baffled that a bunch of college educated people can't grasp what information this article is intended to convey. It's not that hard.

I am a kid that has applied to Yale, Columbia and Stanford. I live in the state of North Carolina. The acceptance rate of those three schools to which I have applied average about 7%. Hey, it would be a good idea to also apply to UNC because it's a really good school with a higher acceptance rate than those other schools. Just because it is easier to get in to UNC doesn't mean it's not a good school.

That's it, that's all the article is trying to convey. It's listing the best school in each state that doesn't have a very low acceptance rate.

its not about what state you're applying from, its about what state you're applying to. if it was about the state you are from then there's no reason to divide by state because you can apply to schools in all 50 states.

the article is simply saying- of all of the schools in this particular state, this is the one that has a high acceptance rate but is also a quality institution. Nothing more, nothing less. The use of the word underrated is debatable.

(04-13-2014 10:53 PM)banker Wrote:  

(04-13-2014 08:07 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  

(04-13-2014 04:14 PM)banker Wrote:  

(04-13-2014 09:54 AM)Old Dominion Wrote:  Banker-I did not read anything about an IVy school comparison. Are you inferring this ? The title says under rated by state, not incomparison to Ivy league schools. One could just as easily infer they mean most under rated in comparison to other schools within that state.

Reread the opening to the story. A few direct quotes:

"While the term "safety school" may have a negative connotation, it's unquestionably a smart decision to apply to at least one college you'll likely be accepted to."

Nothing needs to be inferred here. It doesn't come out and say the Ivy schools, but when looking at schools with low acceptance rates, that's the type schools they are talking about.

"Oftentimes, these schools' strong academic programs are overshadowed by the popular perception that a college is better if it's tougher to get into."

Again, clearly stating that the colleges they are listing are strong, in another spot they even call them great, but that they may be underrated by applicants because they are easier to get in to than some schools. Again, since the Ivies and similar schools have the lowest acceptance rates, I believe it is obvious who they are talking about.

So again, the only context in which they are calling these schools underrated is in the view of a small group of college bound kids who believe they can't get a good education if they don't get into a small subset of private schools.

not necessarily, not every state has an Ivy League school. 20+ years ago I applied to Ohio but Ohio State was my safety school because back then Ohio State took everybody. Based on the criteria of this article OSU would have been the "underrated" college at the time. 20 years later Ohio State has upped its admissions criteria significantly making Ohio the "underrated" school by comparison.

It's all relative and is not contingent on public vs private/ivy league.

But every kid that applies to an Ivy League school comes from a state, which is why they listed a school from each state.

I am seriously baffled that a bunch of college educated people can't grasp what information this article is intended to convey. It's not that hard.

I am a kid that has applied to Yale, Columbia and Stanford. I live in the state of North Carolina. The acceptance rate of those three schools to which I have applied average about 7%. Hey, it would be a good idea to also apply to UNC because it's a really good school with a higher acceptance rate than those other schools. Just because it is easier to get in to UNC doesn't mean it's not a good school.

That's it, that's all the article is trying to convey. It's listing the best school in each state that doesn't have a very low acceptance rate.

I get the point that you are trying to make, but I think that the article is very misleading in it's title. My main issue with it is that if what you are suggesting is true, then the article was written for a very small portion of the population. What percentage of college applicants are seriously considering Ivy league schools? Case in point, there may be a very small number of HS aged kids in NC applying to Columbia, Yale and Harvard. For the vast majority of kids in NC, UNC would be their primary choice, with acceptance rates around 33%. An underrated fall back school would be something like ECU, UNCG or UNCW, all great schools with great academics but much higher acceptance rates somewhere between 50-70%.

However, while I think Charlotte is the best school in the state, I refuse to consider it a fallback for UNC, because we actually require our kids to go to class.

(04-13-2014 10:02 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(04-12-2014 04:58 PM)RUNVSFD MINER Wrote:  TX A&M is so under-rated.

I don't know how they define underrated, but my thought was Univ. of Dallas.

I would have said Baker College was the most underrated (Sid Richardson is the most over rated)

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(04-13-2014 10:02 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(04-12-2014 04:58 PM)RUNVSFD MINER Wrote:  TX A&M is so under-rated.

I don't know how they define underrated, but my thought was Univ. of Dallas.

I would agree with this. Univ of Dallas is a smart school.

University of Louisville?

The second largest and most popular university in the state in "underrated"?

The responses are mind numbing. Everybody read the article without reading the headline.

(04-14-2014 11:02 AM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(04-13-2014 10:02 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(04-12-2014 04:58 PM)RUNVSFD MINER Wrote:  TX A&M is so under-rated.

I don't know how they define underrated, but my thought was Univ. of Dallas.

I would agree with this. Univ of Dallas is a smart school.

I would have gone with UT-Dallas or, if we want a smaller school, Trinity in San Antonio

The site they used for the data, niche.com, uses nothing but student reviews to determine their ratings. I'm under no illusions that Louisiana Tech is an Ivy League school, but they have us ranked #9 in the state in academics. ULM is #5. LSU-Shreveport is #8. This site is a joke.