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RE: Marshall Gunning Hard For Mike D'Antoni
I get the feeling that if Marshall is putting all their eggs in the D'Antoni basket, then they are setting themselves up for an FIU/Butch Davis situation.
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RE: Marshall Gunning Hard For Mike D'Antoni
(04-15-2014 09:34 AM)fauowls561 Wrote: I get the feeling that if Marshall is putting all their eggs in the D'Antoni basket, then they are setting themselves up for an FIU/Butch Davis situation.
THIS. THANK YOU. Finally, someone said what I've felt this entire time.
I just personally feel that waiting this long for D'Antoni (who, don't get me wrong, has been absolutely great for the University lately, particularly through the Vision Campaign) is far too risky.
No college coaching experience is a red flag. What if he gets the job and it doesn't work out? Then we potentially alienate a very popular, famous alumni.
All of this rather than hire a proven, successful college head coach from a smaller level/conference? I dunno, it's just my opinion, but I'd rather that route than D'Antoni.
Then again, I had the exact same opinion when we hired Doc, so what do I know?
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fauowls561
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RE: Marshall Gunning Hard For Mike D'Antoni
(04-15-2014 10:39 AM)RedParallax Wrote: (04-15-2014 09:34 AM)fauowls561 Wrote: I get the feeling that if Marshall is putting all their eggs in the D'Antoni basket, then they are setting themselves up for an FIU/Butch Davis situation.
THIS. THANK YOU. Finally, someone said what I've felt this entire time.
I just personally feel that waiting this long for D'Antoni (who, don't get me wrong, has been absolutely great for the University lately, particularly through the Vision Campaign) is far too risky.
No college coaching experience is a red flag. What if he gets the job and it doesn't work out? Then we potentially alienate a very popular, famous alumni.
All of this rather than hire a proven, successful college head coach from a smaller level/conference? I dunno, it's just my opinion, but I'd rather that route than D'Antoni.
Then again, I had the exact same opinion when we hired Doc, so what do I know?
Well no offense to Marshall, which I'm sure is a fine University, I just have a hard time believing that D'Antoni would have much interest in going from multi-million dollar NBA head coach of premier franchises to head coach at a mid-major for a fraction of the salary. He can go do TV and likely make more money than he can at Marshall and wouldn't have to worry about getting 18 year-olds to go to class. Perhaps I'm wrong, but I just don't see the appeal for him to take the job.
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RE: Marshall Gunning Hard For Mike D'Antoni
(04-15-2014 10:53 AM)fauowls561 Wrote: (04-15-2014 10:39 AM)RedParallax Wrote: (04-15-2014 09:34 AM)fauowls561 Wrote: I get the feeling that if Marshall is putting all their eggs in the D'Antoni basket, then they are setting themselves up for an FIU/Butch Davis situation.
THIS. THANK YOU. Finally, someone said what I've felt this entire time.
I just personally feel that waiting this long for D'Antoni (who, don't get me wrong, has been absolutely great for the University lately, particularly through the Vision Campaign) is far too risky.
No college coaching experience is a red flag. What if he gets the job and it doesn't work out? Then we potentially alienate a very popular, famous alumni.
All of this rather than hire a proven, successful college head coach from a smaller level/conference? I dunno, it's just my opinion, but I'd rather that route than D'Antoni.
Then again, I had the exact same opinion when we hired Doc, so what do I know?
Well no offense to Marshall, which I'm sure is a fine University, I just have a hard time believing that D'Antoni would have much interest in going from multi-million dollar NBA head coach of premier franchises to head coach at a mid-major for a fraction of the salary. He can go do TV and likely make more money than he can at Marshall and wouldn't have to worry about getting 18 year-olds to go to class. Perhaps I'm wrong, but I just don't see the appeal for him to take the job.
I was pretty much in the exact same boat as this argument, but some article the other day came out and stated he expressed interest in the job this time around, as he apparently has the past couple of times. So who knows? He's still got family in the area, as well.
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RE: Marshall Gunning Hard For Mike D'Antoni
Marshall will interview both Robert Morris head coach Andrew Toole and Eastern Kentucky head coach Jeff Neubauer this week. I think Mike Hamrick also has talked to other coaches, at least informally, including Moton of NC Central among others at the Final Four, and has reached out to Murray Bartow of ETSU and others, like John Phelphrey down at Florida - who both claim they have not talked to anyone at Marshall, but I'm sure their agents or attorneys have. They are still hoping D'Antoni is a possibility, but like any good AD, Hamrick will have a back-up plan with some of these coaches, but no reason to sit still a month unless there was a chance that Mike D'Antoni, age 62, with aging parents still in southern W.Va., would come to take over a Marshall program with major upgrades in travel and salary made possible by a few well-heeled donors (and probably bring Danny D'Antoni, age 67, along with him).
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RE: Marshall Gunning Hard For Mike D'Antoni
(04-15-2014 10:58 AM)Woody Woodrum Wrote: Marshall will interview both Robert Morris head coach Andrew Toole and Eastern Kentucky head coach Jeff Neubauer this week. I think Mike Hamrick also has talked to other coaches, at least informally, including Moton of NC Central among others at the Final Four, and has reached out to Murray Bartow of ETSU and others, like John Phelphrey down at Florida - who both claim they have not talked to anyone at Marshall, but I'm sure their agents or attorneys have. They are still hoping D'Antoni is a possibility, but like any good AD, Hamrick will have a back-up plan with some of these coaches, but no reason to sit still a month unless there was a chance that Mike D'Antoni, age 62, with aging parents still in southern W.Va., would come to take over a Marshall program with major upgrades in travel and salary made possible by a few well-heeled donors (and probably bring Danny D'Antoni, age 67, along with him).
If not D'Antoni, I hope its Moton or Toole rather than Neubauer. I have no idea why we would even consider someone like Bartow or Pelphrey.
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RE: Marshall Gunning Hard For Mike D'Antoni
(04-15-2014 10:53 AM)fauowls561 Wrote: (04-15-2014 10:39 AM)RedParallax Wrote: (04-15-2014 09:34 AM)fauowls561 Wrote: I get the feeling that if Marshall is putting all their eggs in the D'Antoni basket, then they are setting themselves up for an FIU/Butch Davis situation.
THIS. THANK YOU. Finally, someone said what I've felt this entire time.
I just personally feel that waiting this long for D'Antoni (who, don't get me wrong, has been absolutely great for the University lately, particularly through the Vision Campaign) is far too risky.
No college coaching experience is a red flag. What if he gets the job and it doesn't work out? Then we potentially alienate a very popular, famous alumni.
All of this rather than hire a proven, successful college head coach from a smaller level/conference? I dunno, it's just my opinion, but I'd rather that route than D'Antoni.
Then again, I had the exact same opinion when we hired Doc, so what do I know?
Well no offense to Marshall, which I'm sure is a fine University, I just have a hard time believing that D'Antoni would have much interest in going from multi-million dollar NBA head coach of premier franchises to head coach at a mid-major for a fraction of the salary. He can go do TV and likely make more money than he can at Marshall and wouldn't have to worry about getting 18 year-olds to go to class. Perhaps I'm wrong, but I just don't see the appeal for him to take the job.
I don't think many of you understand what Marshall means to many of its alums and donors. The appeal of the job isn't the profile of the job itself, but more like a donation of sorts to raise the profile of the school that he loves.
It wouldn't be any different than many of us die-hards making it big in coaching, and returning to give back to our school near the end of our career when we're financially set for life (multiple generations), and have family in the area.
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RE: Marshall Gunning Hard For Mike D'Antoni
(04-15-2014 11:32 AM)Hank Rearden Wrote: (04-15-2014 10:53 AM)fauowls561 Wrote: (04-15-2014 10:39 AM)RedParallax Wrote: (04-15-2014 09:34 AM)fauowls561 Wrote: I get the feeling that if Marshall is putting all their eggs in the D'Antoni basket, then they are setting themselves up for an FIU/Butch Davis situation.
THIS. THANK YOU. Finally, someone said what I've felt this entire time.
I just personally feel that waiting this long for D'Antoni (who, don't get me wrong, has been absolutely great for the University lately, particularly through the Vision Campaign) is far too risky.
No college coaching experience is a red flag. What if he gets the job and it doesn't work out? Then we potentially alienate a very popular, famous alumni.
All of this rather than hire a proven, successful college head coach from a smaller level/conference? I dunno, it's just my opinion, but I'd rather that route than D'Antoni.
Then again, I had the exact same opinion when we hired Doc, so what do I know?
Well no offense to Marshall, which I'm sure is a fine University, I just have a hard time believing that D'Antoni would have much interest in going from multi-million dollar NBA head coach of premier franchises to head coach at a mid-major for a fraction of the salary. He can go do TV and likely make more money than he can at Marshall and wouldn't have to worry about getting 18 year-olds to go to class. Perhaps I'm wrong, but I just don't see the appeal for him to take the job.
I don't think many of you understand what Marshall means to many of its alums and donors. The appeal of the job isn't the profile of the job itself, but more like a donation of sorts to raise the profile of the school that he loves.
It wouldn't be any different than many of us die-hards making it big in coaching, and returning to give back to our school near the end of our career when we're financially set for life (multiple generations), and have family in the area.
Lots of schools are special to their alums and mean a lot to them. That doesn't mean that there are many people are looking to go work at their schools (or take a reduced salary do so).
Like I said, perhaps I'm wrong...it wouldn't be the first time. I just have a hard time believing that someone who has made the type of money he has, in the high profile jobs he's held would choose, in his 60's, to go move from LA to go coach at a mid-major. Maybe he loves his school and has family there, but that doesn't mean he has to go coach there to support either. Coaching college kids isn't for everyone, especially someone his age and who has never done it. But hey, if you can land him, good for Marshall. I'll just believe it when I see it.
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RE: Marshall Gunning Hard For Mike D'Antoni
Lots of coaches would prefer to be at the college level over the NBA, so maybe D'Antoni is at a point in his career when he wants to give it a shot and can afford to. Who knows? If he is the guy then my bet is there is already a gentleman's agreement in place but it cannot be announced--or maybe even signed--until LA fires him. If this is going to happen he would be crazy to walk away from $4 million.
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RE: Marshall Gunning Hard For Mike D'Antoni
fauowls561, I'm assuming you are a younger guy. I'm pushing 50, been in banking for 25 years and have had a successful career. My goal is to quit banking in about 5 years and teach some finance classes. It's something I have always wanted to do, but I won't make 20% of what I make now, probably not 10%. Simple fact is that doesn't matter. I've reached a point financially where I can do what I want in the time I have left. It's not always about the money or the status of the position.
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RE: Marshall Gunning Hard For Mike D'Antoni
(04-15-2014 02:27 PM)banker Wrote: fauowls561, I'm assuming you are a younger guy. I'm pushing 50, been in banking for 25 years and have had a successful career. My goal is to quit banking in about 5 years and teach some finance classes. It's something I have always wanted to do, but I won't make 20% of what I make now, probably not 10%. Simple fact is that doesn't matter. I've reached a point financially where I can do what I want in the time I have left. It's not always about the money or the status of the position.
That's great. I don't doubt that others share your desire, but there's also a big difference between teaching "some finance classes" and all the responsibilities that come with being a college basketball head coach. It's an extremely demanding job...maybe more time-consuming than coaching in the NBA. Does a millionaire who has spent the last decade-plus traveling on private planes want to start traveling around the country, flying commercial, recruiting and baby-sitting teenagers? If he does, great for Marshall, but I just don't see it. Like I said, I'll believe it when I see it.
And believe me, this is nothing against Marshall. I'm sure they'll land a good coach. I just doubt it will be Mike D'Antoni.
(This post was last modified: 04-15-2014 06:09 PM by fauowls561.)
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RE: Marshall Gunning Hard For Mike D'Antoni
I doubt it's Mike either, but the demands of a pro coach are much greater than a college coach. 82 games, 41 on the road, 7 day road trips across 4 cities, a season that lasts 3/4 of the year and putting up with a bunch of egos of employees that all make more money that you do.
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RE: Marshall Gunning Hard For Mike D'Antoni
(04-15-2014 07:21 PM)banker Wrote: I doubt it's Mike either, but the demands of a pro coach are much greater than a college coach. 82 games, 41 on the road, 7 day road trips across 4 cities, a season that lasts 3/4 of the year and putting up with a bunch of egos of employees that all make more money that you do.
I was just referring to the fact that you have to deal with recruiting as well as coaching. Not to mention having to deal with teenage players and all that that entails, the NCAA rules, donors, offseason clinics, etc. The NBA season may be longer, but the demands on your time, year round, may be more on a college coach.
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RE: Marshall Gunning Hard For Mike D'Antoni
Just been reported that Andy Toole, who sources said was interviewing this week and was perhaps the lead candidate, isn't even interviewing. I'm still skeptical, but D'Antoni seems more and more likely with every passing hour. I'd be surprised if there isn't at least a very real possibility of it happening.
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RE: Marshall Gunning Hard For Mike D'Antoni
The Lakers last game is tonight. The ball should get rolling shortly.
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RE: Marshall Gunning Hard For Mike D'Antoni
Good thing Tulsa nor Marshall were Santa Clause when I was a kid. Christmas would have never come around
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RE: Marshall Gunning Hard For Mike D'Antoni
I really hope you guys get D'Antoni. Your coach last year was an evil little man. I gave him an ear full when the Herd came to San Antonio this year.
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RE: Marshall Gunning Hard For Mike D'Antoni
Knowing the Lakers they'll try to wait D'Antoni out. He replaced a guy that was fired after going 1 - 4 to start the 2012 season. I think they know he's interested in the Marshall job so they'll make him give up the $4million guaranteed if he wants to coach Marshall next year. That said I think he'll stay with LA until he's dismissed.
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