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RE: Reports out of missouri saying JMU and MSU recieved invite
(04-10-2014 10:12 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  The claims of UMass being expelled suddenly changing the dynamic are specious. I know that AState leadership was aware of the UMass situation within a day or two of the MAC extending the full offer to UMass, it is implausible that the rest of the league was unaware. Therefore any impact UMass might have had on the situation took place nearly a month prior to the public announcement but the "insider" claims acted as if the news was new to the Sun Belt and significant enough to adjust the thinking on realignment when any adjustment would have happened nearly a month earlier and been reflected in the "insider" information, even if the cause of the change were not revealed.
Likewise, it is not plausible that the reported claims that JMU thinking changed upon the UMass announcement are accurate. If JMU were actively engaged with the MAC, they would have had some awareness of the MAC's action and even if the MAC held some fantastic hope of acceptance, the probability would be that if the Sun Belt is in active pursuit of JMU that the Sun Belt would have dashed that for JMU by giving indication that UMass was in active pursuit of Sun Belt membership thereby revealing UMass's choice.
The evidence strongly suggests the smoke has merely been hot air.

Though JMU's thinking may have not changed 'suddenly', the fact that UMass was being expelled (at whatever point they made the decision not to join the MAC) did and does put pressure on JMU to fish or cut bait.

If my math is right, there are 4 schools vying for one Sun Belt FBS slot; JMU, Missouri St., UMass and Liberty. That's a lot of suitors for one belle.

Question. Why would the Sun Belt go to 13 by inviting both JMU and Missouri St.?
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RE: Reports out of missouri saying JMU and MSU recieved invite
(04-10-2014 10:23 AM)The4thOption Wrote:  
(04-10-2014 10:12 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(04-10-2014 09:48 AM)Crump1 Wrote:  I don't think I have ever turned to NBC Sports. I presume that DirecTV carries it?

220. They do a great job with the NHL, MLS, and Premier League.

What is the Premier League ?

The highest level of competition for British soccer. Teams like Manchester United, Manchester City, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea, Everton compete in this league.
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RE: Reports out of missouri saying JMU and MSU recieved invite
(04-10-2014 10:28 AM)FIUFan Wrote:  
(04-10-2014 10:12 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  The claims of UMass being expelled suddenly changing the dynamic are specious. I know that AState leadership was aware of the UMass situation within a day or two of the MAC extending the full offer to UMass, it is implausible that the rest of the league was unaware. Therefore any impact UMass might have had on the situation took place nearly a month prior to the public announcement but the "insider" claims acted as if the news was new to the Sun Belt and significant enough to adjust the thinking on realignment when any adjustment would have happened nearly a month earlier and been reflected in the "insider" information, even if the cause of the change were not revealed.
Likewise, it is not plausible that the reported claims that JMU thinking changed upon the UMass announcement are accurate. If JMU were actively engaged with the MAC, they would have had some awareness of the MAC's action and even if the MAC held some fantastic hope of acceptance, the probability would be that if the Sun Belt is in active pursuit of JMU that the Sun Belt would have dashed that for JMU by giving indication that UMass was in active pursuit of Sun Belt membership thereby revealing UMass's choice.
The evidence strongly suggests the smoke has merely been hot air.

Though JMU's thinking may have not changed 'suddenly', the fact that UMass was being expelled (at whatever point they made the decision not to join the MAC) did and does put pressure on JMU to fish or cut bait.

If my math is right, there are 4 schools vying for one Sun Belt FBS slot; JMU, Missouri St., UMass and Liberty. That's a lot of suitors for one belle.

Question. Why would the Sun Belt go to 13 by inviting both JMU and Missouri St.?

Because Idaho isn't a long-term solution.
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(04-10-2014 10:29 AM)All Dukes_All Day Wrote:  The highest level of competition for British soccer. Teams like Manchester United, Manchester City, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea, Everton compete in this league.

The 3rd best futbol league in Europe. 05-stirthepot
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(04-10-2014 10:28 AM)FIUFan Wrote:  
(04-10-2014 10:12 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  The claims of UMass being expelled suddenly changing the dynamic are specious. I know that AState leadership was aware of the UMass situation within a day or two of the MAC extending the full offer to UMass, it is implausible that the rest of the league was unaware. Therefore any impact UMass might have had on the situation took place nearly a month prior to the public announcement but the "insider" claims acted as if the news was new to the Sun Belt and significant enough to adjust the thinking on realignment when any adjustment would have happened nearly a month earlier and been reflected in the "insider" information, even if the cause of the change were not revealed.
Likewise, it is not plausible that the reported claims that JMU thinking changed upon the UMass announcement are accurate. If JMU were actively engaged with the MAC, they would have had some awareness of the MAC's action and even if the MAC held some fantastic hope of acceptance, the probability would be that if the Sun Belt is in active pursuit of JMU that the Sun Belt would have dashed that for JMU by giving indication that UMass was in active pursuit of Sun Belt membership thereby revealing UMass's choice.
The evidence strongly suggests the smoke has merely been hot air.

Though JMU's thinking may have not changed 'suddenly', the fact that UMass was being expelled (at whatever point they made the decision not to join the MAC) did and does put pressure on JMU to fish or cut bait.

If my math is right, there are 4 schools vying for one Sun Belt FBS slot; JMU, Missouri St., UMass and Liberty. That's a lot of suitors for one belle.

Question. Why would the Sun Belt go to 13 by inviting both JMU and Missouri St.?

Because they might want to force Idaho out?
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(04-10-2014 09:15 AM)JMUsince89 Wrote:  Oh Please let them do the right thing. No more monitoring the situation!!!!!!! I want SBC soooo bad. Lots of old embers to kick around and start the flames again.
Why are you starting the flames again, did they burn out?
(04-10-2014 09:26 AM)JMU2004 Wrote:  Hey App fans....need to re-spark this pronto. The tailgate before the game was legendary, and the game was amazing.



Still say Coach Moore saw how upset Micky the Mouth was, and since he is such a good guy and they were friends, he called the dogs off the second half. Wished they had Matthew's comment before the game that was on TV....talking @ App State he was saying, "Who are these guy, who are they.. (reference to Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kind). Will take our record over JMU anytime, but that game will be remember forever by both sides. As well as the game the year before where we beat you guys.
Oh, yeah...remember, I hate you guys, and I hate purple streamers.
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(04-10-2014 10:30 AM)All Dukes_All Day Wrote:  Because they might want to force Idaho out?

Yeah, unless the culture of the Sun Belt has changed in the last year; we/they just don't do that.
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(04-10-2014 10:30 AM)FIUFan Wrote:  
(04-10-2014 10:29 AM)All Dukes_All Day Wrote:  The highest level of competition for British soccer. Teams like Manchester United, Manchester City, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea, Everton compete in this league.

The 3rd best futbol league in Europe. 05-stirthepot

Top to bottom I think it's more competitive than La Liga. Atletico, Real and Barcelona are playing a different level of soccer than anyone else there.

BPL down the stretch this season is going to be very interesting.
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(04-10-2014 10:22 AM)The4thOption Wrote:  
(04-10-2014 10:08 AM)statefanatic Wrote:  
(04-10-2014 10:03 AM)Dman Wrote:  This your statement.

"Search it on twitter. I'm on my phone and don't know how to link it. "

Bear Boulevard @BearBoulevardFollowReports are saying that Missouri State and JMU have been invited to the Sun Belt Conference. Could FBS football be coming to #sgf soon?

What is #sgf ?

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(04-10-2014 10:08 AM)statefanatic Wrote:  
(04-10-2014 10:03 AM)Dman Wrote:  This your statement.

"Search it on twitter. I'm on my phone and don't know how to link it. "

Bear Boulevard @BearBoulevardFollowReports are saying that Missouri State and JMU have been invited to the Sun Belt Conference. Could FBS football be coming to #sgf soon?



Having a hard time finding anything close that quote on that Twitter. This is what I see

" Bear Boulevard ‏@BearBoulevard 13h

@thejordanburton seems they're trying to add #MSUBears and JMU, kick out Idaho, add NMSU all sports to get to a solid 14.
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Bear Boulevard ‏@BearBoulevard 13h

@thejordanburton Reports are that the western Sun Belt schools won't agree to add only an Eastern member unless they also add MSU"
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