(04-09-2014 12:01 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(04-09-2014 10:44 AM)idroot4russia Wrote:  How would you compare his game to Sylvester Gray?

To me, based on a sample size of 2 games and several scrimmages, hawkin's outside game is better and he handles the ball better. I think he's very physical much like Sylvester but is actually may be a bit quicker and more explosive. It's weird, he looks to be maybe more dynamic than Sylvester with a more well rounded game but Gray just had more of an imposing presence and had faster foot speed, if that makes sense. Gray was unquestionably a better athlete and back then at 6-6 and 235, he was just dominant even against taller guys, which is the unknown with Hawkins. Gray was pretty cut up too, physically, more so than Hawkins.

Good insights, thanks.

(04-09-2014 12:50 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(04-09-2014 12:27 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(04-09-2014 12:00 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  Neils Giffey don't look too swift. Did he get exposed playing the 3 spot? I didn't realize we had such a prevalence of super quick 3 men in college hoops? Plus one of my nightmares of the season was how many times Chris Crawford got beat off the dribble.

Yeah, Giffey is slow as molasses. Dude had a defensive rating of 99.2 this season. He definitely wasn't playing because of his defense; he was playing because he was 4th in the nation in eFG%.

Well I'm thinking Kings rebounding ability and desire would trump his supposed deficiencies as well.

I dunno, I can't tell what Pastner is thinking from one second to the next, but I don't think Giffey is comparable to King. Giffey's defense was noticeably bad, but they rocked with him because he was pretty much the most efficient player in D1 basketball this season. King was good, but he wasn't even on the same planet as Giffey on the offensive end IMO.

Plus, UConn was an amazing defensive team outside of Giffey, while their offense wasn't nearly as efficient most of the year. I think Ollie knew he could play a guy like Giffey and sacrifice a little defense for a lot of offense because guys like Napier and Brimah were so goo on the defensive end.

We sucked on defense (and offense).

Hawkins isn't really "cut" but he is just strong as hell. As 450 says, he is explosive and handles the ball pretty well.

The kid is the absolute real deal, and more importantly to me is an exceedingly nice young man that loves the game and smiles a lot. Very respectful and coachable.

He works hard at defense, but frankly we got such a small sample size of him this year, I can't say he will be a lockdown guy.

He'll do anything he asked to do.

He's going to be a solid Tiger.

(04-08-2014 06:16 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  Hawkins works hard on D, likes to mix it up going for rebounds and brings a lot of energy. If he can produce just 1/3 on the D1 level of what he's producing in JC then its a good pickup

Oh.....
So, this thread is about basketball. Got it.

(04-09-2014 07:53 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(04-09-2014 05:21 AM)TripleA Wrote:  I seriously doubt Hawkins will play much at the 3, more like spot duty at the 4, or even 5, depending on matchups. In case anyone forgot, Dorsey was only 6'6 1/4". And I don't think Hawkins is quick or fast.

Joey's long arms and outstanding hops allowed him to control the paint against most college opposition. I am not sure if Hawkins has those attributes. I think he will play the five only in an emergency based on the scanty info provided to date.

Tiger basketball has no off-season.

Well, he's a 4, not a 3 or 5. I'm just saying if he plays any position other than 4, it would be at the 5 just as easily as at the 3.

(04-11-2014 11:43 AM)madtiger Wrote:  Hawkins isn't really "cut" but he is just strong as hell. As 450 says, he is explosive and handles the ball pretty well.

The kid is the absolute real deal, and more importantly to me is an exceedingly nice young man that loves the game and smiles a lot. Very respectful and coachable.

He works hard at defense, but frankly we got such a small sample size of him this year, I can't say he will be a lockdown guy.

He'll do anything he asked to do.

He's going to be a solid Tiger.

(04-09-2014 12:40 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(04-09-2014 12:31 PM)Crazier Wrote:  Maybe Chris Hawkins can inspire the other tigers in getting into the weight room

Hopefully we can hire someone that will do that.

Fine, I'll do it. Have the University contact my people.

Thanks

(04-11-2014 05:30 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(04-09-2014 07:53 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(04-09-2014 05:21 AM)TripleA Wrote:  I seriously doubt Hawkins will play much at the 3, more like spot duty at the 4, or even 5, depending on matchups. In case anyone forgot, Dorsey was only 6'6 1/4". And I don't think Hawkins is quick or fast.

Joey's long arms and outstanding hops allowed him to control the paint against most college opposition. I am not sure if Hawkins has those attributes. I think he will play the five only in an emergency based on the scanty info provided to date.

Tiger basketball has no off-season.

Well, he's a 4, not a 3 or 5. I'm just saying if he plays any position other than 4, it would be at the 5 just as easily as at the 3.

He isn't really big enough to play the 5 over any length of time....especially against all of these "well coached teams with good players" that we seem to play.

He can play 3/4...the kid can just flat out play. Whatever "it" is, he has it.