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RE: Jim Fox new APP basketball head coach
Always exciting to sign a new head coach. Good luck guys.04-cheers
04-08-2014 08:48 PM
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(04-08-2014 08:48 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  Always exciting to sign a new head coach. Good luck guys.04-cheers

I hope everyone gives him the chance to get this thing straight. He comes from a well-run and respected program so AppState's hope is all that rubbed off on him. I hope it is the case. We have been able to tell the "Appalachian Story" well with football recruits, I hope we can do the same with basketball.
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(04-08-2014 07:22 PM)asupatch Wrote:  At first I was underwhelmed as I thought Matt McMahon's resume was as strong if not stronger. But the more I am reading and learning about Fox the more I like the hire.

No offense to Matt, but we needed to get away from the Buzz tree. He should have been the coach four years ago, but it's too late for that.
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(04-08-2014 11:07 PM)T-Dog Wrote:  
(04-08-2014 07:22 PM)asupatch Wrote:  At first I was underwhelmed as I thought Matt McMahon's resume was as strong if not stronger. But the more I am reading and learning about Fox the more I like the hire.

No offense to Matt, but we needed to get away from the Buzz tree. He should have been the coach four years ago, but it's too late for that.

Matt is not just from Buzz's tree. He one of our own and put 16 years of blood, sweat and tears into the program. No one cared more for ASU basketball than Matt, or did 4 years ago anyway. Matt's body of work trump's Fox's by quite a bit and has been singled out numerous times as one of the top assistant coaches in America. Fox was the 3rd assistant at Davidson until Metheny took the Elon job 2 years ago. Word on the street is McKillop grooming his son to take over at Davidson prompted Fox to get out. He was quite adamant in the interview with DJ he went after this job hard. Mentioned he knew Charlie. Sure he could read the tea leaves and had good idea there was going to be a job opening. Smart to lay that type of ground work. A good friend who is deep in the college basketball business said he had never heard of Fox before yesterday. It isn't like he was a known commodity in collegiate basketball circles.

I honestly hoping we would attract someone with a little more experience going into the SunBelt. Honestly he is probably as good as we can do outside Matt. I'm sure there aren't many guys who wanted to tackle the mess ASU is in. No history or tradition ( 2 conference championships in 40 years), no fan support (ave 1100 in a really nice 8300 seat arena), bad APR issues (possible loss of scholarships) and going into a much tougher conference with questionable talent. Don't think I would have taken that task on.

He said the right things during the presser, but was very vague on some direct questions about staff and style of play. Really made a point to deflect all questions about "the past" and talk about the future. Typical New Yorker he certainly doesn't lack for confidence. Interesting his Dad runs one of the largest AAU basketball organizations in NYC. The references to Cremins are inevitable and mentioned Bobby's Bronx to Boone Express and he may crank it up again.

Interesting nobody from Char TV or newspaper showed up for the press conference. Prob due to the fact he will be in Char this evening at the Yosef stop.

A 5 year contract. Probably the only way he would take the job. Tells me the first 2 years are basically throw aways. $200K plus $10K bonus each season, $200K for assistants and $50K for DBO. It's good to see App finally make a decent investment in MBB. Those extra $'s from the SB are already paying off.

Next year is going to be interesting. Best of luck Coach Fox! You're gonna need it!
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04-09-2014 04:12 PM
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RE: Jim Fox new APP basketball head coach
(04-09-2014 04:12 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  
(04-08-2014 11:07 PM)T-Dog Wrote:  
(04-08-2014 07:22 PM)asupatch Wrote:  At first I was underwhelmed as I thought Matt McMahon's resume was as strong if not stronger. But the more I am reading and learning about Fox the more I like the hire.

No offense to Matt, but we needed to get away from the Buzz tree. He should have been the coach four years ago, but it's too late for that.

Matt is not just from Buzz's tree. He one of our own and put 16 years of blood, sweat and tears into the program. No one cared more for ASU basketball than Matt, or did 4 years ago anyway. Matt's body of work trump's Fox's by quite a bit and has been singled out numerous times as one of the top assistant coaches in America. Fox was the 3rd assistant at Davidson until Metheny took the Elon job 2 years ago. Word on the street is McKillop grooming his son to take over at Davidson prompted Fox to get out. He was quite adamant in the interview with DJ he went after this job hard. Mentioned he knew Charlie. Sure he could read the tea leaves and had good idea there was going to be a job opening. Smart to lay that type of ground work. A good friend who is deep in the college basketball business said he had never heard of Fox before yesterday. It isn't like he was a known commodity in collegiate basketball circles.

I honestly hoping we would attract someone with a little more experience going into the SunBelt. Honestly he is probably as good as we can do outside Matt. I'm sure there aren't many guys who wanted to tackle the mess ASU is in. No history or tradition ( 2 conference championships in 40 years), no fan support (ave 1100 in a really nice 8300 seat arena), bad APR issues (possible loss of scholarships) and going into a much tougher conference with questionable talent. Don't think I would have taken that task on.

He said the right things during the presser, but was very vague on some direct questions about staff and style of play. Really made a point to deflect all questions about "the past" and talk about the future. Typical New Yorker he certainly doesn't lack for confidence. Interesting his Dad runs one of the largest AAU basketball organizations in NYC. The references to Cremins are inevitable and mentioned Bobby's Bronx to Boone Express and he may crank it up again.

Interesting nobody from Char TV or newspaper showed up for the press conference. Prob due to the fact he will be in Char this evening at the Yosef stop.

A 5 year contract. Probably the only way he would take the job. Tells me the first 2 years are basically throw aways. $200K plus $10K bonus each season, $200K for assistants and $50K for DBO. It's good to see App finally make a decent investment in MBB. Those extra $'s from the SB are already paying off.

Next year is going to be interesting. Best of luck Coach Fox! You're gonna need it!

I was impressed that Brad Stevens had such positive things to say about Coach Fox. I would have never imagined that Brad Stevens would know who Coach Fox was, especially if Fox is unknown in collegiate basketball circles.

With that said, I get the desire to have Matt come home, and I would have supported that move. I also think, as of now, it looks like we've made a good--potentially great--hire.
04-10-2014 10:06 AM
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Just watched the Fox press conference.Looks to be a good hire.Key may be getting some AAU players from NY with his dad's connections.Was looking forward to the trip to Boone(been before) to see WKU play.Maybe I can still see a game on the way to or from a Charlotte contest.
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(04-11-2014 10:04 AM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  Just watched the Fox press conference.Looks to be a good hire.Key may be getting some AAU players from NY with his dad's connections.Was looking forward to the trip to Boone(been before) to see WKU play.Maybe I can still see a game on the way to or from a Charlotte contest.

Maybe we can sign a non conference home and home.
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