(05-24-2014 09:34 AM)DrBox Wrote:  Yes, you can use TOPS for Tulane, but obviously it only pays 10% or so of the tuition. Handling the tuition is the challenge at TU, made more difficult when the NCAA outlawed schollies below 1/2; otherwise, you get academics, top notch facility, recruiting base, and, yes, good attendance (only dropped off last couple of years). We have a lot more fans and donors into baseball than basketball (thus a new baseball coach, but not a new basketball coach).
My understanding is that LSU basically won't give a La kid a baseball scholarship; they put them on TOPS and they want to use their 11 schollies for out of state players. That has pushed some top kids to Lafayette and to other state schools.

Thats the main reason i was asking. I knew lsu did this. Plus they hound the state legislators. My wife has a cousin who is a state senator from Washington parish. Those guys have one full ride per year they can give to any kid in their district. LSU hounds them about holding them in case they need them for a baseball kid.
The public universities in La have a huge advantage in baseball because of tops.

BUT you can give less than 1/2. You can go 25% is what most freshmen players get. Upper classmen make it as high as 65%. Thats about as high as you see for a baseball s/s.

(05-24-2014 10:42 AM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:  

(05-24-2014 09:34 AM)DrBox Wrote:  Yes, you can use TOPS for Tulane, but obviously it only pays 10% or so of the tuition. Handling the tuition is the challenge at TU, made more difficult when the NCAA outlawed schollies below 1/2; otherwise, you get academics, top notch facility, recruiting base, and, yes, good attendance (only dropped off last couple of years). We have a lot more fans and donors into baseball than basketball (thus a new baseball coach, but not a new basketball coach).
My understanding is that LSU basically won't give a La kid a baseball scholarship; they put them on TOPS and they want to use their 11 schollies for out of state players. That has pushed some top kids to Lafayette and to other state schools.

Thats the main reason i was asking. I knew lsu did this. Plus they hound the state legislators. My wife has a cousin who is a state senator from Washington parish. Those guys have one full ride per year they can give to any kid in their district. LSU hounds them about holding them in case they need them for a baseball kid.
The public universities in La have a huge advantage in baseball because of tops.

BUT you can give less than 1/2. You can go 25% is what most freshmen players get. Upper classmen make it as high as 65%. Thats about as high as you see for a baseball s/s.

Don't get me started on TOPS. It's a boondoggle. The academic requirements are a joke - something like a 23 on the ACT and you get a free ride, on the backs of the taxpayers.
Each legislator can give a schollie to Tulane too. But those are under high scrutiny now, and you still need a 28 on the ACT to get one. And TOPS applies to every student - everyone gets full tuition paid with a 3.0 GPA or so and a 23.
Thanks for the correction on the schollies.

Georgia, I think the answer at Rice is the obvious answer: Houston is a much bigger city so there are more players to pick from. And I suspect the number of upper middle class suburbans who can afford some are all tuition, are higher multiples than the population difference. Thus, they have a far wider recruiting base than we do. Frankly, that's whey we recruit Houston, knowing that we'll largely get Rice 2nds.
Rice probably has a larger general scholarship program than we do (although pretty much anyone admitted can get 20% knocked off their Tulane tuition if they ask; but I doubt that they can do that for baseball players; if it was a more systematic schollie program, they could).