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RE: Off Campus vs. On Campus Stadium
BTW, my opinion having gone to each kind of stadium all over the country: Playing in on campus stadium owned by your university is the best over any of the other possibilities. If you're a student or alum it's your stadium. Seems like more energy, more of the college lifestyle/culture with all of the school's traditions/fight songs/band etc. Pictures or paintings of your school's legends from years past can be seen everywhere. The concessions have relevant cultural food that's named to coincide with the school and mascot etc. I've been to football stadiums for games where the "home-team" was playing in someone else s stadium (usually the NFL) and it seemed odd to see mascots and imagines all over that weren't related to the home team. Thought it took away from "the home field advantage" a bit. There's many more differences but hope that's a start for you. Does that info help a little? 04-cheers
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(04-01-2014 09:46 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  BTW, my opinion having gone to each kind of stadium all over the country: Playing in on campus stadium owned by your university is the best over any of the other possibilities. If you're a student or alum it's your stadium. Seems like more energy, more of the college lifestyle/culture with all of the school's traditions/fight songs/band etc. Pictures or paintings of your school's legends from years past can be seen everywhere. The concessions have relevant cultural food that's named to coincide with the school and mascot etc. I've been to football stadiums for games where the "home-team" was playing in someone else s stadium (usually the NFL) and it seemed odd to see mascots and imagines all over that weren't related to the home team. Thought it took away from "the home field advantage" a bit. There's many more differences but hope that's a start for you. Does that info help a little? 04-cheers

Absolutely! I appreciate you providing your input. I have only been to a few stadiums and they're Samford University, UAB, Alabama, and UCF. UAB's is the only one that doesn't have a "home-field" advantage element to it (and not only because attendance is ridiculously low). I'd rather have Samford's small stadium that's located on campus because it's at least there stadium and something for alumni to be proud of.
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RE: Off Campus vs. On Campus Stadium
First off, I want to again thank everyone who contributed to the conversation. For those of you who are interested, I'm posting today to provide the results of my research.

Question: Does playing at an on-campus stadium, holding all else equal, affect overall win percentage for Division 1-A college football programs?

Answer: Based on my results, teams do win more games when their stadium is located on-campus. However, the t-stat on the regression analysis was <2 (meaning the increase in win percentage for teams located on-campus was such a low percentage that it should be considered insignificant.

Quick notes:
  • The research included 170 observations
  • Football.stassen.com was used to compile win/loss records
  • FootballGeography.com was used to classify teams as on-campus vs. off-campus

If you have any further questions, feel free to send me a PM and I'd be glad to answer them.
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04-23-2014 11:35 AM
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(04-01-2014 04:30 PM)pesik Wrote:  affects win percentage will be difficult to prove, but it definitely affects attendance

but ill help
-houston started on-campus in robertson stadium (called Houston Public School Stadium at the time) from 1942 till 1950
-from 1950-1964 we played in an off-campus stadium "Houston Stadium" which we shared with rice (now known as rice stadium)
-from 1965-1997 we played in a different off-campus stadium, the Astrodome (originally called the Harris County Domed Stadium, the world's first multi-purpose, domed sports stadium, nicknamed the Eighth Wonder of the World)
-then returned to on campus to Robertson 1998-2012
-2013 we played at reliant stadium (NFL) and BBVA (soccer)
-2014 we return on-campus to a new unnamed campus

It's called Houston Stadium, until a sponsor wants to purchase the naming right
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RE: Off Campus vs. On Campus Stadium
Louisville fan here.

Louisville played on campus from 1946-56.

from 1957-1997 played off-campus at Cardinal Stadium (approximately 1.5 miles from campus)

From 1998-present played off campus at Papa John's Cardinal Stadium. Tail end of a sports complex that is adjacent to campus, but off campus.
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RE: Off Campus vs. On Campus Stadium
(04-01-2014 06:50 PM)ShoreBuc Wrote:  
(04-01-2014 06:47 PM)frenchbeef Wrote:  
(04-01-2014 06:34 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  
(04-01-2014 06:32 PM)frenchbeef Wrote:  
(04-01-2014 04:30 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  Why are we doing your homework?

You are not required to do my homework/research. However, some posters may be interested in supplying information and talking about the topic.

Wouldn't you still need to cite the credible source?

I apologize for the misconception that I have not completed any research on my own already. I have listed some of the following sources listed below. So far, my research has concluded that there are 25 schools currently playing in off campus facilities. Since 2000, I have noticed that 12 schools have built new facilities or simply moved (4 of which were located off campus previously). These schools are Akron, UCF, Florida Atlantic, and Minnesota.

The reason why I asked for extended help was to (1) help look further back in time by fans who may have personally witnessed the transition from off-campus to on-campus and (2) simply talk about the issue itself. It's an interesting one to me because UAB fans have been asking for an on-campus stadium for years. Some think that the stadium will lead to more wins but others point to schools such as Akron, Minnesota, and Florida Atlantic that have struggled since making the transition.


http://www.footballgeography.com/list-of...he-campus/
http://football.stassen.com/cgi-bin/reco...by=Win+Pct
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NCA...l_stadiums
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10...2304563144

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(04-23-2014 01:18 PM)BIgCatonProwl Wrote:  
(04-01-2014 04:30 PM)pesik Wrote:  affects win percentage will be difficult to prove, but it definitely affects attendance

but ill help
-houston started on-campus in robertson stadium (called Houston Public School Stadium at the time) from 1942 till 1950
-from 1950-1964 we played in an off-campus stadium "Houston Stadium" which we shared with rice (now known as rice stadium)
-from 1965-1997 we played in a different off-campus stadium, the Astrodome (originally called the Harris County Domed Stadium, the world's first multi-purpose, domed sports stadium, nicknamed the Eighth Wonder of the World)
-then returned to on campus to Robertson 1998-2012
-2013 we played at reliant stadium (NFL) and BBVA (soccer)
-2014 we return on-campus to a new unnamed campus

It's called Houston Stadium, until a sponsor wants to purchase the naming right

It is actually Yeoman Stadium at O'Quinn Field until we get the sponsor.
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(04-01-2014 09:53 PM)frenchbeef Wrote:  
(04-01-2014 09:46 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  BTW, my opinion having gone to each kind of stadium all over the country: Playing in on campus stadium owned by your university is the best over any of the other possibilities. If you're a student or alum it's your stadium. Seems like more energy, more of the college lifestyle/culture with all of the school's traditions/fight songs/band etc. Pictures or paintings of your school's legends from years past can be seen everywhere. The concessions have relevant cultural food that's named to coincide with the school and mascot etc. I've been to football stadiums for games where the "home-team" was playing in someone else s stadium (usually the NFL) and it seemed odd to see mascots and imagines all over that weren't related to the home team. Thought it took away from "the home field advantage" a bit. There's many more differences but hope that's a start for you. Does that info help a little? 04-cheers

Absolutely! I appreciate you providing your input. I have only been to a few stadiums and they're Samford University, UAB, Alabama, and UCF. UAB's is the only one that doesn't have a "home-field" advantage element to it (and not only because attendance is ridiculously low). I'd rather have Samford's small stadium that's located on campus because it's at least there stadium and something for alumni to be proud of.

I have always been very sympathetic to UAB's situation. I'm not even a UAB fan, and to me it's infuriating how UAT does everything possible to prevent your program from growing even an inch. That Board of Regents (or whatever it's called in AL) sounds like nothing but pure corruption.

But I'll back up what the other poster said about UCF. Building Bright House Networks Stadium transformed our athletic program in every possible way. In the Citrus Bowl days, it was an atypically good day to see a crowd over 30K for an average game. Since moving on campus to BHNS, I think we've had just 4 games that dipped under 30K (three were Thanksgiving weekend games in bad seasons, the other was a horrendous rain storm game against Marshall).

People can chuckle about "The Wok" all they want, and the thing is certainly a bare-bones stadium. But the effect that it's had is immeasurable. But, UCF also had built an entire Athletic Village at the same time, which included the CFE Arena that opened a couple months after BHNS, dorm towers, and retail stores. That was a big part of the transformation as well.
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(04-23-2014 03:05 PM)Knightshift Wrote:  
(04-01-2014 09:53 PM)frenchbeef Wrote:  
(04-01-2014 09:46 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  BTW, my opinion having gone to each kind of stadium all over the country: Playing in on campus stadium owned by your university is the best over any of the other possibilities. If you're a student or alum it's your stadium. Seems like more energy, more of the college lifestyle/culture with all of the school's traditions/fight songs/band etc. Pictures or paintings of your school's legends from years past can be seen everywhere. The concessions have relevant cultural food that's named to coincide with the school and mascot etc. I've been to football stadiums for games where the "home-team" was playing in someone else s stadium (usually the NFL) and it seemed odd to see mascots and imagines all over that weren't related to the home team. Thought it took away from "the home field advantage" a bit. There's many more differences but hope that's a start for you. Does that info help a little? 04-cheers

Absolutely! I appreciate you providing your input. I have only been to a few stadiums and they're Samford University, UAB, Alabama, and UCF. UAB's is the only one that doesn't have a "home-field" advantage element to it (and not only because attendance is ridiculously low). I'd rather have Samford's small stadium that's located on campus because it's at least there stadium and something for alumni to be proud of.

I have always been very sympathetic to UAB's situation. I'm not even a UAB fan, and to me it's infuriating how UAT does everything possible to prevent your program from growing even an inch. That Board of Regents (or whatever it's called in AL) sounds like nothing but pure corruption.

But I'll back up what the other poster said about UCF. Building Bright House Networks Stadium transformed our athletic program in every possible way. In the Citrus Bowl days, it was an atypically good day to see a crowd over 30K for an average game. Since moving on campus to BHNS, I think we've had just 4 games that dipped under 30K (three were Thanksgiving weekend games in bad seasons, the other was a horrendous rain storm game against Marshall).

People can chuckle about "The Wok" all they want, and the thing is certainly a bare-bones stadium. But the effect that it's had is immeasurable. But, UCF also had built an entire Athletic Village at the same time, which included the CFE Arena that opened a couple months after BHNS, dorm towers, and retail stores. That was a big part of the transformation as well.

Slight correction.

UCF Arena (now CFE Arena) opened to the public on Sunday, Sept 9, 2007 while BHNS opened up just 6 days later on Saturday, Sept 15, 2007.

UCF was the only school in over 70 years to build a good size on-campus stadium and a good size on-campus arena at the very same time...and the only one to have them open up to the public in the very same week.

That feat alone was an amazing accomplishment for UCF, as UCF was entering just its 3 season in CUSA, had never won a football conf championship (now has 3), never won a bowl game (now has 3) and obviously never played a Div II, Div I-AA or obviously not even a Div I-A football game on campus before.
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(04-24-2014 08:06 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  
(04-23-2014 03:05 PM)Knightshift Wrote:  
(04-01-2014 09:53 PM)frenchbeef Wrote:  
(04-01-2014 09:46 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  BTW, my opinion having gone to each kind of stadium all over the country: Playing in on campus stadium owned by your university is the best over any of the other possibilities. If you're a student or alum it's your stadium. Seems like more energy, more of the college lifestyle/culture with all of the school's traditions/fight songs/band etc. Pictures or paintings of your school's legends from years past can be seen everywhere. The concessions have relevant cultural food that's named to coincide with the school and mascot etc. I've been to football stadiums for games where the "home-team" was playing in someone else s stadium (usually the NFL) and it seemed odd to see mascots and imagines all over that weren't related to the home team. Thought it took away from "the home field advantage" a bit. There's many more differences but hope that's a start for you. Does that info help a little? 04-cheers

Absolutely! I appreciate you providing your input. I have only been to a few stadiums and they're Samford University, UAB, Alabama, and UCF. UAB's is the only one that doesn't have a "home-field" advantage element to it (and not only because attendance is ridiculously low). I'd rather have Samford's small stadium that's located on campus because it's at least there stadium and something for alumni to be proud of.

I have always been very sympathetic to UAB's situation. I'm not even a UAB fan, and to me it's infuriating how UAT does everything possible to prevent your program from growing even an inch. That Board of Regents (or whatever it's called in AL) sounds like nothing but pure corruption.

But I'll back up what the other poster said about UCF. Building Bright House Networks Stadium transformed our athletic program in every possible way. In the Citrus Bowl days, it was an atypically good day to see a crowd over 30K for an average game. Since moving on campus to BHNS, I think we've had just 4 games that dipped under 30K (three were Thanksgiving weekend games in bad seasons, the other was a horrendous rain storm game against Marshall).

People can chuckle about "The Wok" all they want, and the thing is certainly a bare-bones stadium. But the effect that it's had is immeasurable. But, UCF also had built an entire Athletic Village at the same time, which included the CFE Arena that opened a couple months after BHNS, dorm towers, and retail stores. That was a big part of the transformation as well.

Slight correction.

UCF Arena (now CFE Arena) opened to the public on Sunday, Sept 9, 2007 while BHNS opened up just 6 days later on Saturday, Sept 15, 2007.

UCF was the only school in over 70 years to build a good size on-campus stadium and a good size on-campus arena at the very same time...and the only one to have them open up to the public in the very same week.

That feat alone was an amazing accomplishment for UCF, as UCF was entering just its 3 season in CUSA, had never won a football conf championship (now has 3), never won a bowl game (now has 3) and obviously never played a Div II, Div I-AA or obviously not even a Div I-A football game on campus before.

Yeah, the Nevada game was the first thing that popped into my head, but of course it was open well before that. I attended the pep rally in there in the hours before the Texas game, after all. 03-banghead
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