I will be done as a fan if players are considered employees.

(03-26-2014 02:34 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  I will be done as a fan if players are considered employees.

In the revenue sports they are employees, no matter what they are considered.

The current system is antiquated. It is a different world than when this system was put in place. The amount of money and various revenues have changed dramatically on the BCS level with lucrative advertising packages, product endorsements, each conference having their own tv network, etc. NCAA coaches make more money than NFL coaches at some schools. Everyone is getting rich except the athletes who sacrifice their bodies in increasingly competitve and dangerous contests. The stakes are so high to pull in the almighty $$$s that a coach has to cheat to stay ahead of the game and the NCAA doesn't want to upset the apple cart so they pretend not to see in most cases.

The system needs to be revamped.

A year at Northwestern costs about $57,000. Alot of NfL practice squad players make slightly over $100,000 a year. How many current college players are good enough to make an NFL practice squad? This collective bargaining for college athletes is a bunch of crap.

The ruling does potentially jeopardize the competitive balance within the NCAA since it only applies to private schools. Athletes in public schools continue to be restricted from collective bargaining.

Go ahead and pay them, and then let them pay for their education!

(03-26-2014 02:34 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  I will be done as a fan if players are considered employees.

Ditto

Load of bull. It's their choice to play football. Lots of them wouldn't sniff college if it wasn't for sports.

(03-26-2014 06:59 PM)RangerRocket Wrote:  

(03-26-2014 02:34 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  I will be done as a fan if players are considered employees.

Ditto

Same here.

So if it costs $57,000 per year to go to Northwestern, why not offer the players the choice of a free education or the $57,000 per year in cash. If they choose the cash, they aren't allowed to take classes, and they don't get a degree.

Another question which complicates implementation of the ruling is how it applies to other sports at college level? Can the track team unionize? How about the golfers? And as mentioned above those athletes at public schools are not included in the ruling.

(03-26-2014 07:00 PM)adunifon Wrote:  

(03-26-2014 06:59 PM)RangerRocket Wrote:  

(03-26-2014 02:34 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  I will be done as a fan if players are considered employees.

Ditto

Same here.

Me, too.

I wonder, after getting their free $200,000 education, are the players expecting the union to get them a them a job on the nearest auto assembly line???

(03-26-2014 06:58 PM)factman Wrote:  Go ahead and pay them, and then let them pay for their education!

Good idea and have them give up all of their free bees.

If there particular school does not break even are the athletes willing to make up the loss? If this happens I am out also.

If this happens, I hope that Northwestern follows through with dropping football. The best part of college football is that it isn't the NFL. (with that said, knowing that they can't get a job like a lot of college kids I do think they should be given some sort of stipend that would cover the cost of groceries while at school).

They won't follow through with unionization, but the fact that it has gotten this far hopefully means the NCAA gives athletes more rights. It's absurd that a coach in any sport to take away a scholarship, no questions asked. Outside of revenue-generating sports, hopefully this ruling means that a college wrestler winning a title translates into the wrestling team getting the $18k in funds instead of it getting added on to Gene Smith's nearly $2M salary.


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Can anyone tell me what the h**l is wrong with a young man getting $5 $10 $50 for his autograph. If the NCAA would open their eyes and see what's happening out there. The Olympic committee changed their way of thinking. Look what happened to Jim Thorpe the greatest athlete of all time. They took his Olympic medals away for excepting money for baseball. They reversed that decision after he passed away. Now full-time professional athletes compete. Come on NCAA get your act together. Do it fast before it's too late.

(03-26-2014 02:34 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  I will be done as a fan if players are considered employees.

me too
if they are employees they need to be paid a salary, pay their own tuition, plus pay taxes on their earnings
the school will be open to workman's compensation claims for injuries, or however the NFL and other professional sports leagues address on the job injuries
rosters will have to be decimated down to the size of traveling roster alone I suppose to afford to pay
and what about walk-ons? There could be no such thing, correct?
Can't pay them too...

(03-26-2014 04:08 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  A year at Northwestern costs about $57,000. Alot of NfL practice squad players make slightly over $100,000 a year. How many current college players are good enough to make an NFL practice squad? This collective bargaining for college athletes is a bunch of crap.

Yep, this lends to the idea that college football is just the minor leagues of the NFL.
And that is not true at all.
Its a way for young men to get an education and on the path for a future and a career.
Most of these players won't ever sniff a NFL practice squad.
People have the complete wrong idea about this.