The Big East drop can be easily explained by the line-up change, but the Pac-12 experienced almost as large of a drop.

http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2014/03/...day-night/

Fox really needs to win the B1G top tier package or at least a piece of it to increase viewer awareness.

Interesting to note that the NCAA Selection show had its second worst ratings since 1989 and the show has declined in the ratings 3 of the last 4 years.

Doesn't bode well for basketball.
http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2014/03/...-since-89/

(03-18-2014 09:45 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  The Big East drop can be easily explained by the line-up change, but the Pac-12 experienced almost as large of a drop.

http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2014/03/...day-night/

Fox really needs to win the B1G top tier package or at least a piece of it to increase viewer awareness.

Interesting to note that the NCAA Selection show had its second worst ratings since 1989 and the show has declined in the ratings 3 of the last 4 years.

Doesn't bode well for basketball.
http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2014/03/...-since-89/

Basketball as a whole is in trouble. I don't know if the NBAs issues are trickling down to NCAA or what. I think the stat that blew my mind was that the 6 hour rain delay coverage of the Daytona 500(not the race, the rain delay!) on FOX was watched by more people than the NBA double header the same day on ABC.

FOX will start picking up ratings with MLB coming this year, NASCAR Sprint Cup races next year (the big daddy outside of NFL) and the World Cup. B1G would be a major coo for them.

(03-18-2014 10:15 AM)StanMolsonMan Wrote:  

(03-18-2014 09:45 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  The Big East drop can be easily explained by the line-up change, but the Pac-12 experienced almost as large of a drop.

http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2014/03/...day-night/

Fox really needs to win the B1G top tier package or at least a piece of it to increase viewer awareness.

Interesting to note that the NCAA Selection show had its second worst ratings since 1989 and the show has declined in the ratings 3 of the last 4 years.

Doesn't bode well for basketball.
http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2014/03/...-since-89/

Basketball as a whole is in trouble. I don't know if the NBAs issues are trickling down to NCAA or what. I think the stat that blew my mind was that the 6 hour rain delay coverage of the Daytona 500(not the race, the rain delay!) on FOX was watched by more people than the NBA double header the same day on ABC.

I think it has a lot to do with availability. People get a limited number of opportunities to watch nascar throughout the year on TV. With basketball any given week I have the opportunity to watch at least 20 games, add college basketball in there and that shoots up to 40.

10 years ago there were maybe 10 games on a week. As availability increases, demand will decrease. If you knew tonight would be your one chance in the next week to watch your favorite team on TV you'd likely make time to watch it. However, if you know that you can either A) record it B) watch one of 3 games later this week or C) get extensive highlights on Sportscenter you are a lot less likely to watch.

This is why I'm excited about our Home football schedule. We have at least 2 or 3 weeks between every home game this season. That gives folks the opportunity to plan well for each game, not have to take off back to back weekends for work, and when you go 2 or 3 weeks without a home game that "itch" comes back to get in the stadium and see some football. I think it should help our attendance a lot.

(03-18-2014 10:45 AM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  FOX will start picking up ratings with MLB coming this year, NASCAR Sprint Cup races next year (the big daddy outside of NFL) and the World Cup. B1G would be a major coo for them.

Problem is the World Cup doesn't come till 2018...meaning they have 4 years to kill before they can even claim to broadcast the games.

I am not sure MLB ratings will help terribly. It depends how MLB handles the FS1 window. The traditional Saturday Fox and Sunday ESPN games are blacked out on local networks...but the Monday/Wednesday ESPN and Sunday TBS games are not. If local networks are not blacked out I think its hurt their ratings.

They really need major college football, or they risk being forgotten by the main stream sports fan.

(03-18-2014 11:24 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Problem is the World Cup doesn't come till 2018...meaning they have 4 years to kill before they can even claim to broadcast the games.

I am not sure MLB ratings will help terribly. It depends how MLB handles the FS1 window. The traditional Saturday Fox and Sunday ESPN games are blacked out on local networks...but the Monday/Wednesday ESPN and Sunday TBS games are not. If local networks are not blacked out I think its hurt their ratings.

They really need major college football, or they risk being forgotten by the main stream sports fan.

I would like to think that the SBC and CUSA are trying to get deals with FS1 and FS2. They REALLY need live content and both confrences could provide that.

Quote:■It is almost cliche to suggest that Major League Baseball has lost younger viewers, but the numbers for the 2013 World Series were still notable — nearly half the audience was over the age of 55, and the series’ median age hovered in the mid-50s. Combine that with a fairly non-diverse audience, and the Fall Classic does not appear to be in great shape.

Only the US Open draws an older audience than the World Series.

None of the MLB playoff games leading into the World Series drew audiences as large as any of the BCS bowls. The GoDaddy outdrew one of the A's playoff games by 50%. Most MLB playoff games leading to the World Series drew smaller audiences than the best college football regular season games.

I'm not sure regular season baseball is going to help Fox that much.

Quote:■It is striking to see just how different the audiences are for the NBA Finals and Final Four, two events that on the surface are fairly similar. The median age for the Final Four was nearly a decade older than that of the NBA Finals, and the audience for the games was dramatically less diverse — just 23% of the Final Four audience was African American, Hispanic or Asian, compared to 58% of the NBA Finals audience. The Final Four also attracted a more affluent audience than the NBA Finals. Despite the obvious divide between the two events, they averaged similar numbers in 2013 — 18.3* million for the Final Four and 17.7 million for the NBA.

The NBA Finals skews younger than any of the big four league championships, the NBA will be fine, college basketball, maybe not.

(03-18-2014 11:34 AM)OwlFamily Wrote:  

(03-18-2014 11:24 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Problem is the World Cup doesn't come till 2018...meaning they have 4 years to kill before they can even claim to broadcast the games.

I am not sure MLB ratings will help terribly. It depends how MLB handles the FS1 window. The traditional Saturday Fox and Sunday ESPN games are blacked out on local networks...but the Monday/Wednesday ESPN and Sunday TBS games are not. If local networks are not blacked out I think its hurt their ratings.

They really need major college football, or they risk being forgotten by the main stream sports fan.

I would like to think that the SBC and CUSA are trying to get deals with FS1 and FS2. They REALLY need live content and both confrences could provide that.

SBC Is stuck unless Fox agreed to use their regional channels. ESPN wont let us televise any other games nationally.

MLB is more about legitimize for the network. It also frees up FOX for the exclusive 2:30 window on Saturday, where they used to show MLB games. They move those to FS1, which in turn will probably lead to the B1G deal similar to SEC on CBS.

the Fox Sports networks will be successful in time. ESPN wasn't a success over night either. It'll take a few years, but Newscorp has the resources to make FS1 and FS2 successful eventually.

(03-18-2014 01:24 PM)Niner National Wrote:  the Fox Sports networks will be successful in time. ESPN wasn't a success over night either. It'll take a few years, but Newscorp has the resources to make FS1 and FS2 successful eventually.

If they win the B1G outright or run the bidding up so high that ESPN and FS1 enter into a consortium agreement to split the top tier, I think FS1 will do fine.

But if ESPN chooses to play hardball and out-bids Fox for the B1G, FS1 has a long road to relevance building a network out of niche sports and second and third choice games.

I confess that basketball holds my interest less than ever. I was a big fan back in the day. Now I just know about my team and don't make as many games as I did 5 or 10 years ago.

As for NASCAR, comparisons of their viewership or attendance are always skewed because every "team" is competing at the same time. All NASCAR fans are watching whenever they have a big event. When NBA, NFL or college teams play they are mostly drawing fans of the two teams competing.

It's like when Nascar fans brag about how a big race had more fans present than a big football game. Well, yeah, you have to add attendance or viewership for ALL football games in a given week to get a true comparison.

True, but this was during a 6 hour rain delay. People would rather watch jet dryers circling the track and radar that day than an NBA game.

SBC desperately needs a new TV deal. I would be pumped if we could get our games shown on fox regional,

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(03-18-2014 03:27 PM)StanMolsonMan Wrote:  True, but this was during a 6 hour rain delay. People would rather watch jet dryers circling the track and radar that day than an NBA game.

The average NASCAR fan probably would.

Sounds like showing paint drying has a ratings shot.

(03-18-2014 04:11 PM)Crump1 Wrote:  

(03-18-2014 03:27 PM)StanMolsonMan Wrote:  True, but this was during a 6 hour rain delay. People would rather watch jet dryers circling the track and radar that day than an NBA game.

The average NASCAR fan probably would.

I'm no more than a very casual racing fan but I rather watch jet dryers than an NBA game. Though I believe they showed an old race during the rain delay and I heard it caused confusion. When I flipped back and forth to it, I didn't realize that is what it was until the second or third time.