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RE: Hey, WKU Welcome to your New Conference
(03-15-2014 10:21 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(03-15-2014 09:07 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  
(03-15-2014 12:49 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(03-15-2014 12:18 PM)Usajags Wrote:  I see that as more and more fans are becoming upset with the current G5 conference line ups. It's just a ticking time bomb before these conferences are blown up and redrawn that make more sense for everyone involved, especially the fans since we are the ones that are ultimately paying the bills.

C-USA, SBC and the NBE all need to be redesigned. The MAC and MW are about as good as they can be right now.

The G5 want to play screw your neighbor when there is more money to be made by leveraging the entire TV package of all five into a single deal and then distributing money based on appearances but the reality is AAC would rather take less and maintain a bigger leader over the rest than get more an scratch away at the gap between them and the P5.

Same goes for bowl games.

Doesn't matter what the line-ups are, align however you like but it is stupid to not maximize TV and bowl opportunities and revenue by cooperating.

The AAC is a major basketball league with top notch coverage from ESPN. In truth, I do not seem them dividing what they have with any other conference. 5 teams n the dance make them a very good place for basketball.

The AAC in basketball is pretty much Cincy, Memphis, and UConn. Maybe SMU depending how they develop. Its a very top heavy league.
ECU, Tulane, USF, UCF...those aren't exactly quality basketball programs.

You left out Temple, rebuilding year this year, and a good Tulsa squad. You are correct however in stating that teams like ECU and Tulane bring very little to the AAC in terms of BB.
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03-16-2014 06:27 AM
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RE: Hey, WKU Welcome to your New Conference
It looks more and more like the separation between conference power and prestige is widening. The Bigs like the SEC,Big 10,12,ACC,Pac are breaking away. AAC/MWC have settled in as Tier 2. Tier 3 is SBC/USA/MAC.

Some individual teams might be able to jump up now and then but I don't see the conferences moving.

My dead-horse point for this thread is WKU and the other old SBC schools really gain nothing by moving to CUSA.
* 1 to 2 bid league in Basketball. (The selection committee repeatedly says they don't consider conference affiliation for at-large teams)
* TV contract in CUSA will not be as lucrative in the future
* More bowl bids . . . for now, but SBC is catching up
* More costly travel for Olympic sports
* No big-name opponents that will draw better attendance

I don't fault WKU for moving, they get back with Middle but I just don't see it being that much better

And before someone says it, Yes, ASU might consider moving if offered, but it would be a lot less exciting now with what CUSA has become.

Also like to say that WKU fans have been much better about the move. UNT and MT fans acted like they had cashed a golden ticket with the move and were headed to the SEC.
03-16-2014 08:16 AM
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Hey, WKU Welcome to your New Conference
Didn't ECU have a pretty good basketball team last year? I can't remember for sure.


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RE: Hey, WKU Welcome to your New Conference
Some here are finally realizing what I've been saying for months......in most sports, a move from the Belt to C-USA is nothing more than a lateral move. And in football, it might actually be a negative.

With the additions of Georgia Southern and App State, the Belt has taken on two of the FCS powerhouses. With time, I believe they'll meet the challenge and perform very well in FBS and enhance the image of the Belt even further.

My advice to the Cajun program has been to stay put in the Belt until something much better than a C-USA offer comes along. I'm sure they'll ignore my advice though.
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(03-16-2014 08:42 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  Some here are finally realizing what I've been saying for months......in most sports, a move from the Belt to C-USA is nothing more than a lateral move. And in football, it might actually be a negative.

With the additions of Georgia Southern and App State, the Belt has taken on two of the FCS powerhouses. With time, I believe they'll meet the challenge and perform very well in FBS and enhance the image of the Belt even further.

My advice to the Cajun program has been to stay put in the Belt until something much better than a C-USA offer comes along. I'm sure they'll ignore my advice though.

You're probably the only one, seems all of your programs fans are dying to get out of the SBC and into CUSA...
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(03-16-2014 08:53 AM)Redwolves06 Wrote:  
(03-16-2014 08:42 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  Some here are finally realizing what I've been saying for months......in most sports, a move from the Belt to C-USA is nothing more than a lateral move. And in football, it might actually be a negative.

With the additions of Georgia Southern and App State, the Belt has taken on two of the FCS powerhouses. With time, I believe they'll meet the challenge and perform very well in FBS and enhance the image of the Belt even further.

My advice to the Cajun program has been to stay put in the Belt until something much better than a C-USA offer comes along. I'm sure they'll ignore my advice though.

You're probably the only one, seems all of your programs fans are dying to get out of the SBC and into CUSA...

A lone voice of reason.04-cheers
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C-USA was exciting when it was ECU football and Memphis basketball, both are gone. Those are the teams that excited fan bases about moving, and NT and MTSU both were going into that league, but shortly after those teams left. WKU knew those teams were gone before they headed in that direction.

The only teams that excite in CUSA now is a UAb team that couldn't get over the Memphis hump and a USM team that has won one football game over the last two years.

Not the CUSA that we all wanted to be apart of, I'll keep my SBC thank you very much. Not much in basketball right now, but football has a bright future, and softball and baseball are just better in the belt.
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(03-16-2014 08:26 AM)GaStPanthers Wrote:  Didn't ECU have a pretty good basketball team last year? I can't remember for sure.


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ECU had a decent team last year. We just built a 17 million practice facility and gave an extension to Jeff Lebo. Next year we should be better than this year as we have several transfers and a few good new recruits coming on board. By and large however, ECU has always struggled with basketball. I think we are really going to struggle in the AAC and imo, will be a bottom team for many years to come.

Also, I do not want to come a crossed in my posts as being anti Conf USA. I am not. Nor do I have anything bad to say about the schools that are currently in the conference, including the ones that joined Conf USA recently. All of the school in Conf USA and the Sun Belt are fine schools.

In terms of sports however, when I look at schools like App State, Ga Southern, Ark State, Louisiana and even a rising South Alabama, I really do not think that Conf USA has any teams that are better or has teams that have any more potential than the ones that I just listed.

Currently however, Conf USA does have a better TV contract and more money. They also still benefit from Conf USA as a brand. Keeping that contract however and keeping that brand are going to be uphill battles, and ones that I do not think they can win. There is no Memphis for example waiting in the wings, there is no UCF, or even a Houston to generate excitement or buzz. On the other hand, Ga Southern and App State for example, have made names for themselves as dominant players in the FCS league. Ul and Ark State have also recently made names for themselves.

Conversely, Marshall and Southern Miss are two high quality schools that also bring with them an excellent reputation in football. It would be great if somehow a conference was created that showcased the best of Conf USA and the best of the Sun Belt. This would imo be a conference that could be contender amongst the G5. (Sorry for the long post)
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