We announced FBS on April 9th 2012. That means that the the February 2013 recruiting class was the FIRST FBS quality class. We should have just said from 2009 we were going FBS like UTSA did recruit that way from day one. So you have that. Then you have the QB cluster. Nine scholarship QBs signed from 2009-2012; Nine. Drew Little was the best of the bunch but life caught up to him. The rest where mismanaged by the offensive coaching genius of one John Bond. I told someone last week that I truly believe that if we had signed Taylor Heinicke he would be working at Kroger as we speak. Last year can be attributed to playing a whole bunch of inexperienced Freshmen and Sophomores (Who were actually more talented that the Juniors and Seniors) and the remnants of a horrible QB situation. We did not have an FBS quality QB although Jeff Jagodzinski and Luke Huard did a hell of a job coaching up Ronnie Bell. With a true FBS QB I dont think we lose an FCS game and I think at least three other games (Troy, Texas State, Arkansas State) look a lot different.
[/quote]

So what if GS & Appy break 500 with a FCS QB & team?
Are U saying that we cant?
Will GaSt win more games than either GS or APPY in 2014?
All I remember is that you had Curry, an NFL quality staff, "THE DOME" a massive media market & that the recruits would be there.

(04-16-2014 07:24 PM)GSUsTALON Wrote:  

(04-16-2014 10:22 AM)panama Wrote:  

We announced FBS on April 9th 2012. That means that the the February 2013 recruiting class was the FIRST FBS quality class. We should have just said from 2009 we were going FBS like UTSA did recruit that way from day one. So you have that. Then you have the QB cluster. Nine scholarship QBs signed from 2009-2012; Nine. Drew Little was the best of the bunch but life caught up to him. The rest where mismanaged by the offensive coaching genius of one John Bond. I told someone last week that I truly believe that if we had signed Taylor Heinicke he would be working at Kroger as we speak. Last year can be attributed to playing a whole bunch of inexperienced Freshmen and Sophomores (Who were actually more talented that the Juniors and Seniors) and the remnants of a horrible QB situation. We did not have an FBS quality QB although Jeff Jagodzinski and Luke Huard did a hell of a job coaching up Ronnie Bell. With a true FBS QB I dont think we lose an FCS game and I think at least three other games (Troy, Texas State, Arkansas State) look a lot different.

Quote:So what if GS & Appy break 500 with a FCS QB & team?
Are U saying that we cant?
Will GaSt win more games than either GS or APPY in 2014?
All I remember is that you had Curry, an NFL quality staff, "THE DOME" a massive media market & that the recruits would be there.

An NFL quality staff!?!? John Bond? John Thompson? George Pugh? Surely you jest. You're saying GS and App both win 7 games? Not gonna happen. You will BOTH have to go 6-2 in conference for that to happen.

(04-16-2014 09:03 PM)panama Wrote:  

(04-16-2014 07:24 PM)GSUsTALON Wrote:  

(04-16-2014 10:22 AM)panama Wrote:  

We announced FBS on April 9th 2012. That means that the the February 2013 recruiting class was the FIRST FBS quality class. We should have just said from 2009 we were going FBS like UTSA did recruit that way from day one. So you have that. Then you have the QB cluster. Nine scholarship QBs signed from 2009-2012; Nine. Drew Little was the best of the bunch but life caught up to him. The rest where mismanaged by the offensive coaching genius of one John Bond. I told someone last week that I truly believe that if we had signed Taylor Heinicke he would be working at Kroger as we speak. Last year can be attributed to playing a whole bunch of inexperienced Freshmen and Sophomores (Who were actually more talented that the Juniors and Seniors) and the remnants of a horrible QB situation. We did not have an FBS quality QB although Jeff Jagodzinski and Luke Huard did a hell of a job coaching up Ronnie Bell. With a true FBS QB I dont think we lose an FCS game and I think at least three other games (Troy, Texas State, Arkansas State) look a lot different.

Quote:So what if GS & Appy break 500 with a FCS QB & team?
Are U saying that we cant?
Will GaSt win more games than either GS or APPY in 2014?
All I remember is that you had Curry, an NFL quality staff, "THE DOME" a massive media market & that the recruits would be there.

An NFL quality staff!?!? John Bond? John Thompson? George Pugh? Surely you jest. You're saying GS and App both win 7 games? Not gonna happen. You will BOTH have to go 6-2 in conference for that to happen.

I was told that on PT by a poster when the staff first came together under Curry and no one disputed it at the time. As far as GS going 500 I think we have a chance at 6-6. Then again I don't know how the players will respond to the new staff & a change to the pistol option with the QB being the biggest concern. If things come together I think we have a good shot at NC State, Savannah State, Idaho and yes your beloved Panthers. If that comes true we just need 2 more games. I think the last time we played Navy the score was GSU 7 - Navy 13 in a defensive battle. Besides Idaho & G-state its very plausible that we can win 2 other games in the SBC.

Party On Panama

TALON

(04-17-2014 03:19 AM)GSUsTALON Wrote:  

(04-16-2014 09:03 PM)panama Wrote:  

(04-16-2014 07:24 PM)GSUsTALON Wrote:  

(04-16-2014 10:22 AM)panama Wrote:  

We announced FBS on April 9th 2012. That means that the the February 2013 recruiting class was the FIRST FBS quality class. We should have just said from 2009 we were going FBS like UTSA did recruit that way from day one. So you have that. Then you have the QB cluster. Nine scholarship QBs signed from 2009-2012; Nine. Drew Little was the best of the bunch but life caught up to him. The rest where mismanaged by the offensive coaching genius of one John Bond. I told someone last week that I truly believe that if we had signed Taylor Heinicke he would be working at Kroger as we speak. Last year can be attributed to playing a whole bunch of inexperienced Freshmen and Sophomores (Who were actually more talented that the Juniors and Seniors) and the remnants of a horrible QB situation. We did not have an FBS quality QB although Jeff Jagodzinski and Luke Huard did a hell of a job coaching up Ronnie Bell. With a true FBS QB I dont think we lose an FCS game and I think at least three other games (Troy, Texas State, Arkansas State) look a lot different.

Quote:So what if GS & Appy break 500 with a FCS QB & team?
Are U saying that we cant?
Will GaSt win more games than either GS or APPY in 2014?
All I remember is that you had Curry, an NFL quality staff, "THE DOME" a massive media market & that the recruits would be there.

An NFL quality staff!?!? John Bond? John Thompson? George Pugh? Surely you jest. You're saying GS and App both win 7 games? Not gonna happen. You will BOTH have to go 6-2 in conference for that to happen.

I was told that on PT by a poster when the staff first came together under Curry and no one disputed it at the time. As far as GS going 500 I think we have a chance at 6-6. Then again I don't know how the players will respond to the new staff & a change to the pistol option with the QB being the biggest concern. If things come together I think we have a good shot at NC State, Savannah State, Idaho and yes your beloved Panthers. If that comes true we just need 2 more games. I think the last time we played Navy the score was GSU 7 - Navy 13 in a defensive battle. Besides Idaho & G-state its very plausible that we can win 2 other games in the SBC.

Party On Panama

TALON

NC State, Navy and GT will be laying in wait for you after Florida. No way you win those. That means you need 5 SBC win s since you have changed it to reaching. 500 rather than breaking. 500.

I like how when you announce a FBS move, only then can you get an "FBS quality" Qb. What else does everyone do? Flip coins into a wishing well? Old Dominion must be the tits to grab one from your own backyard.


LOL, we lose all three because they are "Laying in wait". That is just something dumb fans say and applies as little as you could possibly imagine on the field at kickoff.

(04-17-2014 08:30 AM)tapate50 Wrote:  I like how when you announce a FBS move, only then can you get an "FBS quality" Qb. What else does everyone do? Flip coins into a wishing well? Old Dominion must be the tits to grab one from your own backyard.


LOL, we lose all three because they are "Laying in wait". That is just something dumb fans say and applies as little as you could possibly imagine on the field at kickoff.

No way those three dont lay the wood on you. Nobody wants to be this year's Florida.

As for announcing a move and recruiting< why would I sign with an FCS school when I can sign with an FBS school?

No mako no senso dudo

(04-17-2014 09:40 AM)panama Wrote:  

(04-17-2014 08:30 AM)tapate50 Wrote:  I like how when you announce a FBS move, only then can you get an "FBS quality" Qb. What else does everyone do? Flip coins into a wishing well? Old Dominion must be the tits to grab one from your own backyard.


LOL, we lose all three because they are "Laying in wait". That is just something dumb fans say and applies as little as you could possibly imagine on the field at kickoff.

No way those three dont lay the wood on you. Nobody wants to be this year's Florida.

As for announcing a move and recruiting< why would I sign with an FCS school when I can sign with an FBS school?

No mako no senso dudo

The recruiting pitch. Be the man, not a man. How do you think we did it? Old Dominion? App? It has been done, and regularly. Just because you could not doesn't mean it isn't possible. Stop drinking the Ben Moore Kool Aid about "now we are recruiting FBS caliber athletes, but before we weren't trying to get the best guys on the team possible, just ok FCS guys". It is garbage, pure n simple and something fans tell themselves to give them hope and a reason to believe. Coaches are getting the best guys they can... period. Just because Ga St couldn't recruit worth a turd doesn't mean someone else won't get those guys in house.

All that "Doesn't want to be this years Florida" doesn't mean jack diddly squat when that opening kick off gets the boot. All that washes away...Turnovers happen, special teams might make a big play, we could outscheme, get a break....etc..

You are just spouting off typical fanspeak. It won't matter come kickoff. The outcomes are not predetermined just because they don't want to be like UF.

I may not be the most eloquent bell of the ball, but it makes perfect sense. There are plenty of players recruited for FCS that are NFL level talents, but don't get an offer. Just got to find em. We are sending folks to the NFL regulary, but they weren't FBS worthy? RIIIIIGGGHHHHT.

Bringing it back to Academia, I think your foreign language department should evaluate their program! Heyoo!

(04-17-2014 10:01 AM)tapate50 Wrote:  

(04-17-2014 09:40 AM)panama Wrote:  

(04-17-2014 08:30 AM)tapate50 Wrote:  I like how when you announce a FBS move, only then can you get an "FBS quality" Qb. What else does everyone do? Flip coins into a wishing well? Old Dominion must be the tits to grab one from your own backyard.


LOL, we lose all three because they are "Laying in wait". That is just something dumb fans say and applies as little as you could possibly imagine on the field at kickoff.

No way those three dont lay the wood on you. Nobody wants to be this year's Florida.

As for announcing a move and recruiting< why would I sign with an FCS school when I can sign with an FBS school?

No mako no senso dudo

The recruiting pitch. Be the man, not a man. How do you think we did it? Old Dominion? App? It has been done, and regularly. Just because you could not doesn't mean it isn't possible. Stop drinking the Ben Moore Kool Aid about "now we are recruiting FBS caliber athletes, but before we weren't trying to get the best guys on the team possible, just ok FCS guys". It is garbage, pure n simple and something fans tell themselves to give them hope and a reason to believe. Coaches are getting the best guys they can... period. Just because Ga St couldn't recruit worth a turd doesn't mean someone else won't get those guys in house.

All that "Doesn't want to be this years Florida" doesn't mean jack diddly squat when that opening kick off gets the boot. All that washes away...Turnovers happen, special teams might make a big play, we could outscheme, get a break....etc..

You are just spouting off typical fanspeak. It won't matter come kickoff. The outcomes are not predetermined just because they don't want to be like UF.

I may not be the most eloquent bell of the ball, but it makes perfect sense. There are plenty of players recruited for FCS that are NFL level talents, but don't get an offer. Just got to find em. We are sending folks to the NFL regulary, but they weren't FBS worthy? RIIIIIGGGHHHHT.

Bringing it back to Academia, I think your foreign language department should evaluate their program! Heyoo!

You're delusional. FBS is greater than FBS every day of the week and there very few kids with FBS offers who are going to sign with and FCS school just because of a sales pitch. We lost many players in the first 3 years to SBC and CUSA schools. An FCS school simply cannot offer what an FBS school offers. There are rare cases where the FCS school is local and the FBS offer is 1500 miles away. But all things being equal kids are taking the FBS offer every time. And that is why there are FCS schools pitching even as we speak saying "Oh yeas we will be in the Sun Belt next year". That is the pitch because bowl eligible and ESPNU > than FCS playoffs and PBS. There is no question and I mean none that the kids we have signed the last two classes are heads and above more talented than the first two classes. It is physically apparent. Do some FCS kids build themselves into NFL prospects? Absolutely. But to act like FCS = G5 = P5 is ludicrous. It is simply not true. You will see a big difference in line play this year from what you saw in the So Con.

(04-17-2014 10:33 AM)panama Wrote:  

(04-17-2014 10:01 AM)tapate50 Wrote:  

(04-17-2014 09:40 AM)panama Wrote:  

(04-17-2014 08:30 AM)tapate50 Wrote:  I like how when you announce a FBS move, only then can you get an "FBS quality" Qb. What else does everyone do? Flip coins into a wishing well? Old Dominion must be the tits to grab one from your own backyard.


LOL, we lose all three because they are "Laying in wait". That is just something dumb fans say and applies as little as you could possibly imagine on the field at kickoff.

No way those three dont lay the wood on you. Nobody wants to be this year's Florida.

As for announcing a move and recruiting< why would I sign with an FCS school when I can sign with an FBS school?

No mako no senso dudo

The recruiting pitch. Be the man, not a man. How do you think we did it? Old Dominion? App? It has been done, and regularly. Just because you could not doesn't mean it isn't possible. Stop drinking the Ben Moore Kool Aid about "now we are recruiting FBS caliber athletes, but before we weren't trying to get the best guys on the team possible, just ok FCS guys". It is garbage, pure n simple and something fans tell themselves to give them hope and a reason to believe. Coaches are getting the best guys they can... period. Just because Ga St couldn't recruit worth a turd doesn't mean someone else won't get those guys in house.

All that "Doesn't want to be this years Florida" doesn't mean jack diddly squat when that opening kick off gets the boot. All that washes away...Turnovers happen, special teams might make a big play, we could outscheme, get a break....etc..

You are just spouting off typical fanspeak. It won't matter come kickoff. The outcomes are not predetermined just because they don't want to be like UF.

I may not be the most eloquent bell of the ball, but it makes perfect sense. There are plenty of players recruited for FCS that are NFL level talents, but don't get an offer. Just got to find em. We are sending folks to the NFL regulary, but they weren't FBS worthy? RIIIIIGGGHHHHT.

Bringing it back to Academia, I think your foreign language department should evaluate their program! Heyoo!

You're delusional. FBS is greater than FBS every day of the week and there very few kids with FBS offers who are going to sign with and FCS school just because of a sales pitch. We lost many players in the first 3 years to SBC and CUSA schools. An FCS school simply cannot offer what an FBS school offers. There are rare cases where the FCS school is local and the FBS offer is 1500 miles away. But all things being equal kids are taking the FBS offer every time. And that is why there are FCS schools pitching even as we speak saying "Oh yeas we will be in the Sun Belt next year". That is the pitch because bowl eligible and ESPNU > than FCS playoffs and PBS. There is no question and I mean none that the kids we have signed the last two classes are heads and above more talented than the first two classes. It is physically apparent. Do some FCS kids build themselves into NFL prospects? Absolutely. But to act like FCS = G5 = P5 is ludicrous. It is simply not true. You will see a big difference in line play this year from what you saw in the So Con.

I didn't say there was no difference ( I see what you did there, but D for effort), but teams can consistently get kids that perform at FBS level at FCS schools. How could you not find a QB that could at least have a pulse at the FCS level, much less FBS but these other schools do?

Plus you had Da Dome and all that ? FBS QBs should be falling over themselvs to play there.

(04-17-2014 10:40 AM)tapate50 Wrote:  

(04-17-2014 10:33 AM)panama Wrote:  

(04-17-2014 10:01 AM)tapate50 Wrote:  

(04-17-2014 09:40 AM)panama Wrote:  

(04-17-2014 08:30 AM)tapate50 Wrote:  I like how when you announce a FBS move, only then can you get an "FBS quality" Qb. What else does everyone do? Flip coins into a wishing well? Old Dominion must be the tits to grab one from your own backyard.


LOL, we lose all three because they are "Laying in wait". That is just something dumb fans say and applies as little as you could possibly imagine on the field at kickoff.

No way those three dont lay the wood on you. Nobody wants to be this year's Florida.

As for announcing a move and recruiting< why would I sign with an FCS school when I can sign with an FBS school?

No mako no senso dudo

The recruiting pitch. Be the man, not a man. How do you think we did it? Old Dominion? App? It has been done, and regularly. Just because you could not doesn't mean it isn't possible. Stop drinking the Ben Moore Kool Aid about "now we are recruiting FBS caliber athletes, but before we weren't trying to get the best guys on the team possible, just ok FCS guys". It is garbage, pure n simple and something fans tell themselves to give them hope and a reason to believe. Coaches are getting the best guys they can... period. Just because Ga St couldn't recruit worth a turd doesn't mean someone else won't get those guys in house.

All that "Doesn't want to be this years Florida" doesn't mean jack diddly squat when that opening kick off gets the boot. All that washes away...Turnovers happen, special teams might make a big play, we could outscheme, get a break....etc..

You are just spouting off typical fanspeak. It won't matter come kickoff. The outcomes are not predetermined just because they don't want to be like UF.

I may not be the most eloquent bell of the ball, but it makes perfect sense. There are plenty of players recruited for FCS that are NFL level talents, but don't get an offer. Just got to find em. We are sending folks to the NFL regulary, but they weren't FBS worthy? RIIIIIGGGHHHHT.

Bringing it back to Academia, I think your foreign language department should evaluate their program! Heyoo!

You're delusional. FBS is greater than FBS every day of the week and there very few kids with FBS offers who are going to sign with and FCS school just because of a sales pitch. We lost many players in the first 3 years to SBC and CUSA schools. An FCS school simply cannot offer what an FBS school offers. There are rare cases where the FCS school is local and the FBS offer is 1500 miles away. But all things being equal kids are taking the FBS offer every time. And that is why there are FCS schools pitching even as we speak saying "Oh yeas we will be in the Sun Belt next year". That is the pitch because bowl eligible and ESPNU > than FCS playoffs and PBS. There is no question and I mean none that the kids we have signed the last two classes are heads and above more talented than the first two classes. It is physically apparent. Do some FCS kids build themselves into NFL prospects? Absolutely. But to act like FCS = G5 = P5 is ludicrous. It is simply not true. You will see a big difference in line play this year from what you saw in the So Con.

I didn't say there was no difference ( I see what you did there, but D for effort), but teams can consistently get kids that perform at FBS level at FCS schools. How could you not find a QB that could at least have a pulse at the FCS level, much less FBS but these other schools do?

Plus you had Da Dome and all that ? FBS QBs should be falling over themselvs to play there.

And again Drew Little had more than a pulse and a big league arm. It got iffy after that. OC John Bond trying to become a spread OC genius was the ultimate killer. No decent QB was going to sign up for his bs play calling by year 3 of the program. Hacing him double as QB coach was a joke.

As for your last statement...
http://247sports.com/Player/Nick-Arbuckl...tion=23728

http://247sports.com/Player/Emiere-Scaife-18864
...they are back to falling over themselves

(04-17-2014 11:14 AM)panama Wrote:  

(04-17-2014 10:40 AM)tapate50 Wrote:  

(04-17-2014 10:33 AM)panama Wrote:  

(04-17-2014 10:01 AM)tapate50 Wrote:  

(04-17-2014 09:40 AM)panama Wrote:  No way those three dont lay the wood on you. Nobody wants to be this year's Florida.

As for announcing a move and recruiting< why would I sign with an FCS school when I can sign with an FBS school?

No mako no senso dudo

The recruiting pitch. Be the man, not a man. How do you think we did it? Old Dominion? App? It has been done, and regularly. Just because you could not doesn't mean it isn't possible. Stop drinking the Ben Moore Kool Aid about "now we are recruiting FBS caliber athletes, but before we weren't trying to get the best guys on the team possible, just ok FCS guys". It is garbage, pure n simple and something fans tell themselves to give them hope and a reason to believe. Coaches are getting the best guys they can... period. Just because Ga St couldn't recruit worth a turd doesn't mean someone else won't get those guys in house.

All that "Doesn't want to be this years Florida" doesn't mean jack diddly squat when that opening kick off gets the boot. All that washes away...Turnovers happen, special teams might make a big play, we could outscheme, get a break....etc..

You are just spouting off typical fanspeak. It won't matter come kickoff. The outcomes are not predetermined just because they don't want to be like UF.

I may not be the most eloquent bell of the ball, but it makes perfect sense. There are plenty of players recruited for FCS that are NFL level talents, but don't get an offer. Just got to find em. We are sending folks to the NFL regulary, but they weren't FBS worthy? RIIIIIGGGHHHHT.

Bringing it back to Academia, I think your foreign language department should evaluate their program! Heyoo!

You're delusional. FBS is greater than FBS every day of the week and there very few kids with FBS offers who are going to sign with and FCS school just because of a sales pitch. We lost many players in the first 3 years to SBC and CUSA schools. An FCS school simply cannot offer what an FBS school offers. There are rare cases where the FCS school is local and the FBS offer is 1500 miles away. But all things being equal kids are taking the FBS offer every time. And that is why there are FCS schools pitching even as we speak saying "Oh yeas we will be in the Sun Belt next year". That is the pitch because bowl eligible and ESPNU > than FCS playoffs and PBS. There is no question and I mean none that the kids we have signed the last two classes are heads and above more talented than the first two classes. It is physically apparent. Do some FCS kids build themselves into NFL prospects? Absolutely. But to act like FCS = G5 = P5 is ludicrous. It is simply not true. You will see a big difference in line play this year from what you saw in the So Con.

I didn't say there was no difference ( I see what you did there, but D for effort), but teams can consistently get kids that perform at FBS level at FCS schools. How could you not find a QB that could at least have a pulse at the FCS level, much less FBS but these other schools do?

Plus you had Da Dome and all that ? FBS QBs should be falling over themselvs to play there.

And again Drew Little had more than a pulse and a big league arm. It got iffy after that. OC John Bond trying to become a spread OC genius was the ultimate killer. No decent QB was going to sign up for his bs play calling by year 3 of the program. Hacing him double as QB coach was a joke.

As for your last statement...
http://247sports.com/Player/Nick-Arbuckl...tion=23728

http://247sports.com/Player/Emiere-Scaife-18864
...they are back to falling over themselves

I will take your word for how good Little is/was/never was.

Back ? When did they start?

Won't learn will you? It's usually best to tout a recruit after they at least win a single game. Too much can happen.... But we have all heard that schtick from y'all before. It's about all ya got these days. Hope.

(04-17-2014 11:36 AM)tapate50 Wrote:  

(04-17-2014 11:14 AM)panama Wrote:  

(04-17-2014 10:40 AM)tapate50 Wrote:  

(04-17-2014 10:33 AM)panama Wrote:  

(04-17-2014 10:01 AM)tapate50 Wrote:  The recruiting pitch. Be the man, not a man. How do you think we did it? Old Dominion? App? It has been done, and regularly. Just because you could not doesn't mean it isn't possible. Stop drinking the Ben Moore Kool Aid about "now we are recruiting FBS caliber athletes, but before we weren't trying to get the best guys on the team possible, just ok FCS guys". It is garbage, pure n simple and something fans tell themselves to give them hope and a reason to believe. Coaches are getting the best guys they can... period. Just because Ga St couldn't recruit worth a turd doesn't mean someone else won't get those guys in house.

All that "Doesn't want to be this years Florida" doesn't mean jack diddly squat when that opening kick off gets the boot. All that washes away...Turnovers happen, special teams might make a big play, we could outscheme, get a break....etc..

You are just spouting off typical fanspeak. It won't matter come kickoff. The outcomes are not predetermined just because they don't want to be like UF.

I may not be the most eloquent bell of the ball, but it makes perfect sense. There are plenty of players recruited for FCS that are NFL level talents, but don't get an offer. Just got to find em. We are sending folks to the NFL regulary, but they weren't FBS worthy? RIIIIIGGGHHHHT.

Bringing it back to Academia, I think your foreign language department should evaluate their program! Heyoo!

You're delusional. FBS is greater than FBS every day of the week and there very few kids with FBS offers who are going to sign with and FCS school just because of a sales pitch. We lost many players in the first 3 years to SBC and CUSA schools. An FCS school simply cannot offer what an FBS school offers. There are rare cases where the FCS school is local and the FBS offer is 1500 miles away. But all things being equal kids are taking the FBS offer every time. And that is why there are FCS schools pitching even as we speak saying "Oh yeas we will be in the Sun Belt next year". That is the pitch because bowl eligible and ESPNU > than FCS playoffs and PBS. There is no question and I mean none that the kids we have signed the last two classes are heads and above more talented than the first two classes. It is physically apparent. Do some FCS kids build themselves into NFL prospects? Absolutely. But to act like FCS = G5 = P5 is ludicrous. It is simply not true. You will see a big difference in line play this year from what you saw in the So Con.

I didn't say there was no difference ( I see what you did there, but D for effort), but teams can consistently get kids that perform at FBS level at FCS schools. How could you not find a QB that could at least have a pulse at the FCS level, much less FBS but these other schools do?

Plus you had Da Dome and all that ? FBS QBs should be falling over themselvs to play there.

And again Drew Little had more than a pulse and a big league arm. It got iffy after that. OC John Bond trying to become a spread OC genius was the ultimate killer. No decent QB was going to sign up for his bs play calling by year 3 of the program. Hacing him double as QB coach was a joke.

As for your last statement...
http://247sports.com/Player/Nick-Arbuckl...tion=23728

http://247sports.com/Player/Emiere-Scaife-18864
...they are back to falling over themselves

I will take your word for how good Little is/was/never was.

Back ? When did they start?

Won't learn will you? It's usually best to tout a recruit after they at least win a single game. Too much can happen.... But we have all heard that schtick from y'all before. It's about all ya got these days. Hope.

Its all you have as well friend. You're 0-0. New ballgame. Welcome to FBS.

(04-17-2014 11:14 AM)panama Wrote:  As for your last statement...
http://247sports.com/Player/Nick-Arbuckl...tion=23728

http://247sports.com/Player/Emiere-Scaife-18864
...they are back to falling over themselves

If you look at the other offers each of those guys received, it's not like they were getting P5 offers. Try again.

(04-17-2014 08:02 AM)panama Wrote:  

(04-17-2014 03:19 AM)GSUsTALON Wrote:  

(04-16-2014 09:03 PM)panama Wrote:  

(04-16-2014 07:24 PM)GSUsTALON Wrote:  

(04-16-2014 10:22 AM)panama Wrote:  

We announced FBS on April 9th 2012. That means that the the February 2013 recruiting class was the FIRST FBS quality class. We should have just said from 2009 we were going FBS like UTSA did recruit that way from day one. So you have that. Then you have the QB cluster. Nine scholarship QBs signed from 2009-2012; Nine. Drew Little was the best of the bunch but life caught up to him. The rest where mismanaged by the offensive coaching genius of one John Bond. I told someone last week that I truly believe that if we had signed Taylor Heinicke he would be working at Kroger as we speak. Last year can be attributed to playing a whole bunch of inexperienced Freshmen and Sophomores (Who were actually more talented that the Juniors and Seniors) and the remnants of a horrible QB situation. We did not have an FBS quality QB although Jeff Jagodzinski and Luke Huard did a hell of a job coaching up Ronnie Bell. With a true FBS QB I dont think we lose an FCS game and I think at least three other games (Troy, Texas State, Arkansas State) look a lot different.

Quote:So what if GS & Appy break 500 with a FCS QB & team?
Are U saying that we cant?
Will GaSt win more games than either GS or APPY in 2014?
All I remember is that you had Curry, an NFL quality staff, "THE DOME" a massive media market & that the recruits would be there.

An NFL quality staff!?!? John Bond? John Thompson? George Pugh? Surely you jest. You're saying GS and App both win 7 games? Not gonna happen. You will BOTH have to go 6-2 in conference for that to happen.

I was told that on PT by a poster when the staff first came together under Curry and no one disputed it at the time. As far as GS going 500 I think we have a chance at 6-6. Then again I don't know how the players will respond to the new staff & a change to the pistol option with the QB being the biggest concern. If things come together I think we have a good shot at NC State, Savannah State, Idaho and yes your beloved Panthers. If that comes true we just need 2 more games. I think the last time we played Navy the score was GSU 7 - Navy 13 in a defensive battle. Besides Idaho & G-state its very plausible that we can win 2 other games in the SBC.

Party On Panama

TALON

NC State, Navy and GT will be laying in wait for you after Florida. No way you win those. That means you need 5 SBC win s since you have changed it to reaching. 500 rather than breaking. 500.

They're laying in wait for us like a Stealthy Panther - RIGHT! Well thanks for the heads up & concern, but if we get the QB situation paned out I have no worries.

PARTY ON PANAMA
TALON

(04-17-2014 11:14 AM)panama Wrote:  

(04-17-2014 10:40 AM)tapate50 Wrote:  

(04-17-2014 10:33 AM)panama Wrote:  

(04-17-2014 10:01 AM)tapate50 Wrote:  

(04-17-2014 09:40 AM)panama Wrote:  No way those three dont lay the wood on you. Nobody wants to be this year's Florida.

As for announcing a move and recruiting< why would I sign with an FCS school when I can sign with an FBS school?

No mako no senso dudo

The recruiting pitch. Be the man, not a man. How do you think we did it? Old Dominion? App? It has been done, and regularly. Just because you could not doesn't mean it isn't possible. Stop drinking the Ben Moore Kool Aid about "now we are recruiting FBS caliber athletes, but before we weren't trying to get the best guys on the team possible, just ok FCS guys". It is garbage, pure n simple and something fans tell themselves to give them hope and a reason to believe. Coaches are getting the best guys they can... period. Just because Ga St couldn't recruit worth a turd doesn't mean someone else won't get those guys in house.

All that "Doesn't want to be this years Florida" doesn't mean jack diddly squat when that opening kick off gets the boot. All that washes away...Turnovers happen, special teams might make a big play, we could outscheme, get a break....etc..

You are just spouting off typical fanspeak. It won't matter come kickoff. The outcomes are not predetermined just because they don't want to be like UF.

I may not be the most eloquent bell of the ball, but it makes perfect sense. There are plenty of players recruited for FCS that are NFL level talents, but don't get an offer. Just got to find em. We are sending folks to the NFL regulary, but they weren't FBS worthy? RIIIIIGGGHHHHT.

Bringing it back to Academia, I think your foreign language department should evaluate their program! Heyoo!

You're delusional. FBS is greater than FBS every day of the week and there very few kids with FBS offers who are going to sign with and FCS school just because of a sales pitch. We lost many players in the first 3 years to SBC and CUSA schools. An FCS school simply cannot offer what an FBS school offers. There are rare cases where the FCS school is local and the FBS offer is 1500 miles away. But all things being equal kids are taking the FBS offer every time. And that is why there are FCS schools pitching even as we speak saying "Oh yeas we will be in the Sun Belt next year". That is the pitch because bowl eligible and ESPNU > than FCS playoffs and PBS. There is no question and I mean none that the kids we have signed the last two classes are heads and above more talented than the first two classes. It is physically apparent. Do some FCS kids build themselves into NFL prospects? Absolutely. But to act like FCS = G5 = P5 is ludicrous. It is simply not true. You will see a big difference in line play this year from what you saw in the So Con.

I didn't say there was no difference ( I see what you did there, but D for effort), but teams can consistently get kids that perform at FBS level at FCS schools. How could you not find a QB that could at least have a pulse at the FCS level, much less FBS but these other schools do?

Plus you had Da Dome and all that ? FBS QBs should be falling over themselvs to play there.

And again Drew Little had more than a pulse and a big league arm. It got iffy after that. OC John Bond trying to become a spread OC genius was the ultimate killer. No decent QB was going to sign up for his bs play calling by year 3 of the program. Hacing him double as QB coach was a joke.

As for your last statement...
http://247sports.com/Player/Nick-Arbuckl...tion=23728

http://247sports.com/Player/Emiere-Scaife-18864
...they are back to falling over themselves

Only GaState, NMSU and UMASS wanted that kid? And what happens if he busts? Blame the old staff for mismanagement?

(04-18-2014 03:02 PM)The Black Flag Wrote:  

(04-17-2014 11:14 AM)panama Wrote:  

(04-17-2014 10:40 AM)tapate50 Wrote:  

(04-17-2014 10:33 AM)panama Wrote:  

(04-17-2014 10:01 AM)tapate50 Wrote:  The recruiting pitch. Be the man, not a man. How do you think we did it? Old Dominion? App? It has been done, and regularly. Just because you could not doesn't mean it isn't possible. Stop drinking the Ben Moore Kool Aid about "now we are recruiting FBS caliber athletes, but before we weren't trying to get the best guys on the team possible, just ok FCS guys". It is garbage, pure n simple and something fans tell themselves to give them hope and a reason to believe. Coaches are getting the best guys they can... period. Just because Ga St couldn't recruit worth a turd doesn't mean someone else won't get those guys in house.

All that "Doesn't want to be this years Florida" doesn't mean jack diddly squat when that opening kick off gets the boot. All that washes away...Turnovers happen, special teams might make a big play, we could outscheme, get a break....etc..

You are just spouting off typical fanspeak. It won't matter come kickoff. The outcomes are not predetermined just because they don't want to be like UF.

I may not be the most eloquent bell of the ball, but it makes perfect sense. There are plenty of players recruited for FCS that are NFL level talents, but don't get an offer. Just got to find em. We are sending folks to the NFL regulary, but they weren't FBS worthy? RIIIIIGGGHHHHT.

Bringing it back to Academia, I think your foreign language department should evaluate their program! Heyoo!

You're delusional. FBS is greater than FBS every day of the week and there very few kids with FBS offers who are going to sign with and FCS school just because of a sales pitch. We lost many players in the first 3 years to SBC and CUSA schools. An FCS school simply cannot offer what an FBS school offers. There are rare cases where the FCS school is local and the FBS offer is 1500 miles away. But all things being equal kids are taking the FBS offer every time. And that is why there are FCS schools pitching even as we speak saying "Oh yeas we will be in the Sun Belt next year". That is the pitch because bowl eligible and ESPNU > than FCS playoffs and PBS. There is no question and I mean none that the kids we have signed the last two classes are heads and above more talented than the first two classes. It is physically apparent. Do some FCS kids build themselves into NFL prospects? Absolutely. But to act like FCS = G5 = P5 is ludicrous. It is simply not true. You will see a big difference in line play this year from what you saw in the So Con.

I didn't say there was no difference ( I see what you did there, but D for effort), but teams can consistently get kids that perform at FBS level at FCS schools. How could you not find a QB that could at least have a pulse at the FCS level, much less FBS but these other schools do?

Plus you had Da Dome and all that ? FBS QBs should be falling over themselvs to play there.

And again Drew Little had more than a pulse and a big league arm. It got iffy after that. OC John Bond trying to become a spread OC genius was the ultimate killer. No decent QB was going to sign up for his bs play calling by year 3 of the program. Hacing him double as QB coach was a joke.

As for your last statement...
http://247sports.com/Player/Nick-Arbuckl...tion=23728

http://247sports.com/Player/Emiere-Scaife-18864
...they are back to falling over themselves

Only GaState, NMSU and UMASS wanted that kid? And what happens if he busts? Blame the old staff for mismanagement?

Why would we blame the old staff for a kid recruited by Jeff Jagodzinski and Luke Huard? Geez. And he had a VT offer as well.

(04-19-2014 11:16 AM)panama Wrote:  

(04-18-2014 03:02 PM)The Black Flag Wrote:  

(04-17-2014 11:14 AM)panama Wrote:  

(04-17-2014 10:40 AM)tapate50 Wrote:  

(04-17-2014 10:33 AM)panama Wrote:  You're delusional. FBS is greater than FBS every day of the week and there very few kids with FBS offers who are going to sign with and FCS school just because of a sales pitch. We lost many players in the first 3 years to SBC and CUSA schools. An FCS school simply cannot offer what an FBS school offers. There are rare cases where the FCS school is local and the FBS offer is 1500 miles away. But all things being equal kids are taking the FBS offer every time. And that is why there are FCS schools pitching even as we speak saying "Oh yeas we will be in the Sun Belt next year". That is the pitch because bowl eligible and ESPNU > than FCS playoffs and PBS. There is no question and I mean none that the kids we have signed the last two classes are heads and above more talented than the first two classes. It is physically apparent. Do some FCS kids build themselves into NFL prospects? Absolutely. But to act like FCS = G5 = P5 is ludicrous. It is simply not true. You will see a big difference in line play this year from what you saw in the So Con.

I didn't say there was no difference ( I see what you did there, but D for effort), but teams can consistently get kids that perform at FBS level at FCS schools. How could you not find a QB that could at least have a pulse at the FCS level, much less FBS but these other schools do?

Plus you had Da Dome and all that ? FBS QBs should be falling over themselvs to play there.

And again Drew Little had more than a pulse and a big league arm. It got iffy after that. OC John Bond trying to become a spread OC genius was the ultimate killer. No decent QB was going to sign up for his bs play calling by year 3 of the program. Hacing him double as QB coach was a joke.

As for your last statement...
http://247sports.com/Player/Nick-Arbuckl...tion=23728

http://247sports.com/Player/Emiere-Scaife-18864
...they are back to falling over themselves

Only GaState, NMSU and UMASS wanted that kid? And what happens if he busts? Blame the old staff for mismanagement?

Why would we blame the old staff for a kid recruited by Jeff Jagodzinski and Luke Huard? Geez. And he had a VT offer as well.

Ya Panama, give that G.S. skank Black Flag guy a pierce of your mind and straiten him out.

Drew Little . In yo face.