meistertiger Wrote:I was going to stay out of this thread until I read the above ... Memphis is Future regardless of a BE invite.
The words that you quoted were posted on September 7 at 1:50 PM. It is amazing that they made you so angry that you just had to respond to them on September 12 at 12:38 PM. Wow ... five days later ... and not until after this thread was moved to the Smack Board. Amazing!
Despite any suspicions that you might have any agenda other than "defending" Memphis, I will attempt to address your response in an intelligent manner. I hope, unlike some other individuals apparently, that you are more capable of understanding the points that I am espousing.
Just because you moved to New York at some point in your life does not put you in tune with everything natives like myself feel. That being said, the terms "many" and "everyone" are not the same thing. But there are a lot of people in New York, and the Northeast, who would never be able to relate to Memphis as a Big East member. Some of the current 16 schools are stretching it too far as it is.
Reread my words carefully in regards to your comments about a hurricane. I did not say I "want" Birmingham and Houston wiped off the map. I said if it happened, many people here would barely notice. That is true whether you want to admit it or not. But my point was not that those are not nice cities. It is just that they are not the places most people here envision spending their holiday vacations.
You are making the same mistake as many others have in thinking that I hate the University of Memphis. That is not the case. I do not hate the Tigers and I do not hate the Liberty Bowl. I have posted this many times yet no one seems to be listening. I simply feel that lines have to be drawn at some point in time. This is the Big East. It is not the Big South.
DePaul and Marquette have already stretched this league into ridiculous places. One benefit of a split would be a chance to define the league's territory in a proper fashion. To many people, that would be Northeast, Mideast, and Florida. The South is SEC turf. Very few would willingly choose to be in a hellacious hodgepodge that stretches over half the country.
Memphis is a Southern school. You are in a Southern conference. Be happy with that. Your program is going to be fine no matter what league you are in. Yet some of your fans act as though getting into some future version of the Big East is a life and death matter. That is not the case at all. A lot of these constant posts rub some Old Guard fans the wrong way.
When I talk about bowls in Tampa and Toronto being the future, it is about the Big East creating our own bowls and controlling our own destiny. We do not need to be at the mercy of people in Houston who do not really even want us and we also do not need to be at the mercy of a Steve Erhardt who simply used us for leverage against the SEC last year.
Conference USA now has your dream showdown with a Liberty Bowl against the SEC. Southern teams in a Southern bowl. That will work out great for you all. The Big East, however, needs to focus on getting our bowls in our own territory. Toronto was a great start. Tampa would be a continuation of that. So will New York if it ever comes to pass.
I have said since realignment that I feel Conference USA has great potential but it will never be realized until all 12 schools commit to making it work and their fan bases stop undermining the work of the athletic departments by constantly looking toward other leagues. A conference works best when the membership is cohesive and cooperative.
When I first posted an entry in this thread, it was to come up with a list of possible future alignments - there were 11 of them ... more than half of which included Memphis - to see what kind of dollar figures posters thought they could get from the TV networks. That was my only purpose in posting that list.
Everything got sidetracked when a few posters looking for an argument went ballistic over the mere inclusion of Temple in a couple of the alignments and decided to accost me as if I was Bill Bradshaw or something. Then it became questions of how dare I favor Temple over Memphis and so on and so forth.
The amazing irony of this whole thing is that Central Florida has always been my choice for #9 and that has never changed. Temple, if they ever get their act together, would be a choice for #10 after that because of how the league line-up would fit together. I believe in 10 team leagues like the Pac-10. I am opposed to 12 given the remaining choices so there is just no room for Memphis or East Carolina or anyone else.
If people do not like my opinion ... too bad ... it does not count for anything anyway, as far as you know, and neither does that of anyone else posting on this message board. My positions have been clear and consistent for years. People looking to engage in neverending arguments and type smack talk need to do so with some other people because I have far more intelligent things to do with my time. Have a nice day!